Fikse

been thinking about switching to a cl65, this one has the CLS55 wheels on it..... anyone know if the wheels are the same size and fit perfectly? They look good, and probably weigh less than the original 65 wheels....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...QQcmdZViewItem

SL65amg

Looks like a good deal, go for it bro!!!

Then get the Kleemann ECU/TCU upgrade, Kleemann LSD, Renntech strengthened transmission package, and you're good to go with over 750+ Horsepower!!

sprins

I think these are the new W221 (S-Class) AMG wheels. The CLS ones have a deeper inlay on the rear wheels.

I wonder if they fit right. Make sure before you buy.

transferred

That's a great price. The CL and S65s are getting so cheap I don;t know how much longer I can hold out. Are these mods the agreed-with best combination? What does the stregthened transmission pkg entail?

JAYCL600

Im sure renntech will buy it for you teasing.....just pull the trig u know the car and what it can do.

AdamG@NorCal

To be honest, i havent seen a dyno sheet for any Kleemann 65/600 cars. 750?

AdamG@NorCal

The best combination for the 65/600 in the states so far is the Renntech ECU/TCU + CF airbox.

JAYCL600

bfnnrgn

$79k...that makes babies cry or at least the previous owner who bought it new anyway. How much was that thing new?

TREZ63

Is that really a 65? Why don't the muffler tips fit in the rear bumper? I thought they would.

Fikse

new it was at least $186,000, considering the original price, these 65's appear to be bargains if you don't mind driving the old body style, and untill you buy it and it drops again in value....

but really, how much more can they drop? I think people will alway pay up for a v12 twin turbo engine making the massive amounts of power and torque... they key is how long you can keep the car under warranty....

I don't think I could buy one unless it was a CPO car with extended warranty intact.....

Fikse

might be the angle of the pic, the motor pictured looks like the 65 motor....

SL65amg

I think we can all agree on atleast 1 thing with this CL65, and that is that as soon as you buy it, immediately go to your favorite authorized Benz dealer and buy the extended factory warranty asap!!

The Carbon Fiber airbox from Renntech, yes I forgot that one, definitely get that also

Actually Adam, as far as power is concerned, I've actually heard from my local dealer that 800 horsepower has been seen on some 65's that've had work done on them. 750 seems reasonable these days, considering that most likely the tuners have learned how to extract more out of them than when they were first introduced to the market.

How much power does Treynor's SL65 put out now?
And what has he done to it so far?

As far as Renntech strengthening the trans, you'd have to call them to get the exact technical details of the work done, but supposedly it's essential if you're gonna have over 900 lb/ft of torque at your disposal day in/day out. And you know you're gonna wanna gun the crap out of it and smoke as many bimmers as you possibly can every time.

ItalianStallion

I believe that Treynor has RennTech ECU/TCU and Airbox as well as a RT Exhaust.

I'm sure if the cats and downpipe were modified that you could get some more decent gains out of the v12tt.

I love the CL65 and I can't wait for my lease to expire so I can pick one up. I just hope I can get a good warranty.

Vic55

The 65's are continuing to drop but its mileage thats causing the biggest hits now. A 30k miler is huge thats why you are getting that deal. The lower ones are still selling higher:

2005 CL65's

/12/07 RIVRSIDE Regular $79,500 32,016 Avg BLACK 12G A No
03/22/07 MANHEIM Regular $75,000 27,144 Avg SILVER 12G A Yes
03/16/07 RIVRSIDE Lease $81,000 29,616 Avg BLACK 12G A Yes
03/14/07 CEN FLA Regular $95,000 15,390 Avg Black 12G A Yes
03/14/07 W PALM Regular $81,000 25,803 Avg BLACK 12G A Yes
02/07/07 ATLANTA Lease $77,750 30,220 Avg BLK OPL 12G A No


Look at these CL600's (2005's)(ouch!!)

03/01/07 RIVRSIDE Lease $60,000 18,015 Above BLACK 12G A Yes
02/07/07 ATLANTA Lease $56,500 24,448 Above MID BLU 12G A Yes
12/13/06 ATLANTA Regular $72,500 111 Above WHITE 12G A Yes
10/31/06 DFW Lease $58,500 23,013 Above BLACK 12G A Yes
10/12/06 RIVRSIDE Lease $63,250 31,930 Above BLACK 12G A No
08/29/06 RIVRSIDE Lease $66,000 15,036 Above BLK C040 12G A Yes


As you can see anything with miles (over 20k) and the V12's dive. Originally the car just dropped in value because it was grossly overpriced and I believe but dont qoute me, that those drops have flattened out. And what I mean is that drops will occur as with all cars but the super depreciation has already come. Of course they will still fall but but mileage drops will be more involving too.

retardedmunk

lately I have seen a few of the v12 monsters selling in the mid 30's with 40-50k miles.... same car as 65 as we know pretty much... so if the 65's are in the low 80' high 70's now...for those that are selling anyway... then I see them hitting the 50's real soon....out of warranty and older body makes for a not so in demand car.....

ItalianStallion

Well there is still a pretty significant different from a 600 to a 65...namely all the AMG modifications including an extra 100hp and tq, brakes, LSD, suspension, wheels, body, exhaust, interior, manual mode, and the 65 cars are top of the line so thats gotta amount for something lol.

I'm praying to find an '05/'06 black CL65 with warranty 9-10 months from now lol.

m_berman

Almost traded my new cls 55 in for a 05 CL 65 at a MB dealer in So Cal. It looks so good and with a price of 92K with MB CPO.

It was perfect. the only concern if buying a CPO make sure its:

m_berman

Hit the enter key on my last post...SORRY!


Almost traded my new cls 55 in for a 05 CL 65 at a MB dealer in So Cal. It looked so good and with a price of 92K with MB CPO. It was hard to not do it.

The only concern if buying a CPO make sure its (since I went through it):
1. 1 Owner Lease turn in
2. Put on lift and check for any body work (take a magnet with you)
3. Check for repainting
4. Check for excess seat leather rinkles..sign of a real fat person or just alot of miles beyond the spedo.
5. Obtain a print out of the service record to make sure not a problem car.
6. Obtain a car fax report.
7. Have the dealer put in new plugs, air filters, change trans and rear end oils-this is a great for the final negoitations.
8. Get a discount on the extended MB warranty.

If after all this, if it is still a go, you got a great deal.

france2112

Be carefull. I looked into this car. Good deal but you should know the wheels are replicas and they are not staggared size. If I remember they are 255/30-20's all around. The guy sold the original wheels for the money and bought the replicas so he could sell the car. Just thought you should know. Good Luck.

france2112

retardedmunk

v12 turbos can't get warrantied....tried a few before buying my E55....

Vic55

I know a few. It may cost an arm and a leg but its not an absolute no.

rogert

When I purchased my 2004 CL600 I got the extended warranty from Easy Care. They made that part of the deal. MB warranty is up 12-05-07. It's a 30 month 30k mile Total Care package. The deductible is $200, but that's nothing compared to any kind of a repair on a V12. The original cost of that warranty is $2300. I asked about the 48 month 100k warranty and the cost of that was $5k. Since this is only my weekend driver I'll go back to them in 29 months and purchase another 30-month 30k mile warranty and be ahead of the game by 1 year. The cost of the warranty goes up considerably after 60K miles but I assume so does the amount of time it spends at the dealership.

lauer87

The V12's dont hold their value well at all. You pay the premium for the V12 when it is new, but after a few years, the 600's seem to be almost even with 500's.

ScottCLS55

That car can be bought for 76k.. If it didn't sell on ebay it will be at auction next week.