There is no way that you will be able to do two new ABC pumps, labor, control block, and almost all the hydraulic hoses replaced for $3,000? You are going to need a very good independent with the Mercedes comupter that can do the rodeo procedure to remove all the air bubbles.

 

Mercedes Computer? You mean, that extremely expensive STAR Diagnosis system you can buy from Taiwan for around 500 bucks? The one that comes with all the multiplexer cables, multiplexer (the computer thinghy), STAR software and WIS?

The hydraulic hoses, you can have made at a hose shop. I can have the recalled front ABC hose made for about 120 dollars. Same fittings, 3 times the strength of the factory hose. IIRC, the "custom" hose is rated for 4500? PSI.

 

Cool, provide the link to where the system can be purchased for $500. Do you have any references from people that purchased the system and if it works properly?

On the hoses, the local Mercedes dealer would not use anything but the stock hoses. I know you can get them made much cheaper but it was a matter of finding someone who would work on the ABC system and who I trusted with a very expensive car and ABC system.

 

Since you said "please"...:

http://www.greebid.com/wholesale/Mb-...pping-102.html


I am quite happy with mine. I got the STAR software unlocked to Developer, and it works great. Now, granted, I've only had the whole thing for about 6 months, and then only used it 4 times so far, but those 4 times, it worked just fine.

This is where you take the service advisor and tech outside, give them each a nice crisp 100 dollar bill and tell them to use YOUR hoses. You would be surprised how well cash works to grease a squeaky wheel.


You can get them even cheaper (it's all the same manufacturer, over there, just different resellers), but this one I'm not linking you to, unless I get 30 bucks. Hey, I'm a capitalist!... It took me a while to find it.

 

You have used this on your 215 CL? They list that it works on the 204, 221, & 211 but not the 215. I would be worried it may not work. Are you saying it works on all models? Thanks for the link!

 

Here is a link to anything you need. I have been using them for five years and have made most of my business off of their supplies. I am probably opening up a gateway to most on these forums

http://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/star...ic.html#search

 

Thanks Mikey! Looks like the one to get is the C4 version for all computers?

 

Dont buy his CL65, he will only use the money to buy another one.


8 down .... 184 to go.

 

Can anyone comment on the difference between the above STAR systems and the Carsoft system with a multiplexer that goes for a little over $100? I'm guessing the multiplexer is basically the same, just you're getting the actual STAR software instead of the Carsoft software. I would be interested in just the software, since my multiplexer I'm pretty sure will work.

Also, just a note, these systems generally require a laptop with a serial port. USB to serial port adapters a lot of times don't work. Your best bet is to find a used laptop on eBay to use for this.

 

No problem, I am not sure on which system to buy though so you might have to ask others.

The laptops which almost always still seem to have serial ports are Dell.

 

I am trying to remove the Teleaid SOS message. I tried reprogramming the D2B loop in Carsoft, but this doesn't fix it. I think I need STAR to disable it entirely. I'm wondering if I can get just the software (already have laptop and a multiplexer).

Also, I can't seem to find the 38 pin connector anywhere, so I used OBDII port and it seemed to work with Carsoft.

 

Munk,
I saw your CL65 on Ebay. I watched it as you listed it several times. You even bid the vehicle to your desired amount and stated that the previous bidder never came through. I was the 3rd dealer to list vehicles on Ebay in 2000. I know every trick of the trade. Your approach was tooo aggressive. I'm a Personal Injury Attorney, and If I thought you were aggressive then dayum! You need to relax a little. Also, your car is not work $35K or even $33. Look...

07/02/10 LAUD/MIA Regular $38,500 40,395 Avg Black 12G A Yes
08/10/10 FAAO Regular $41,000 40,485 Above BLACK 12G A Yes
06/23/10 ATLANTA Regular $42,000 43,315 Above WHITE 12 A Yes
07/15/10 RIVRSIDE Lease $33,000 64,074 Avg BRI SIL 12G A Yes
06/17/10 RIVRSIDE Regular $32,000 65,904 Below PEWETER 12G A Yes
06/10/10 NEVADA Regular $33,500 80,815 Avg SILVER 12G A Yes

Your vehicle has more miles than the highest one... you should sell it for 27,000 and walk away. As for the 100 cars you've had.. I've had 1000, but I'm not going to sit here and list each and every one.

Too Aggressive, High Mile Product, over priced, Located in Florida (flood region) and horrible ebay pics. There are several reasons why you can't sell your vehicle. Take it off ebay for a few months, let the market cool off, take nice professional pictures, not in the sun, and relist the car.

Im not trying to be rude, im just giving you the answer you asked for in your very first post.

 

How would you know?

 

The market only gets worse in the winter....yet these cars are even more of a monster in the cold weather....looking forward to track days...

See that car at the bottom of that Manheim list? U put up.... Guess what it is mine..lol-------where did u think it came from?...I hunt the cars down...the best ones I can find....this car was a 4.0 above average on the condition report.... and had an excellent VMI...I buy more higher mile AMG's then lower ones....save a few dollars and the cars are 9x out of 10 in better overall condition then the lower mile ones....as well as being more reliable...."BEEN doing this awhile"

Besides...my car has keyless and parktronic and it is silver...only 30% of the 65's in 2005-2006 even had keyless....making it more desirable...i wouldnt buy one without it....even with 5k miles....for myself or others...if the fools got over the mile issue they would of had a super rare cool car for the cost of a used G37....but Hadilaw....you know the deal...you have to own one of these cars to know these cars...to be comfortable....I am over confident on them

I had $35k in it.... with shipping and fees...
Sell it for $27k???? Not if a hurricane hit and flooded the car ...good one by the way ...Florida cars are the highest in demand next to Cali in the wholesale market...I belong to 4 auctions...Manheim being just one....This Highline that was the past wed. here in Florida....75% of the buyers are from out of state....The car I bought came from Nevada and was owned by a gentleman who put $450 F1's on the car and owned it since 2007 with just 27k miles...I do my homework through Mercedes on these cars before buying.....so the last owner was picky and took care of the car...

The car drives ..rides and feels like my Buddy's 23k mile CL65 I sold him......actually he has a rattle in his window at the moment...a washer that gets loose....and underneath my car is super clean...only flaw was the bumper and the wheels ......

A CL65 is not a disposable car....the cheaper they get the more ridicuous it is.....So $27k? ....absolute insult....HELL a GT500 plastic crap...cool car but still crap in terms of an AMG...will set you back more then $27k for a 50k mile one....only a fool would take a gt500 over THIS car....or $27k will net you a 100k mile Escalde at auction....go figure...a supercar or 2007 Escalade?....The drivetrain pulled out of the car sold on ebay is worth upwards of $20k......mainly because there arent any for sale at junk yards...and the last 65 motor on ebay pulled from a wrecked car had a sold bid of $19k.....

My brother's Canyon pickup just hit 158k miles...we were talking about it ....it is a 2006...the truck is used hard on the street...to this day that little truck is still driving like a new truck....

AND 80k miles is suppose to be scary or too much on a $200k build quality car? R u serious?....to a potential buyer maybe ...again there is no excuse for ignorance....

My S55 2004 had 133k miles ...it again was like a new sedan.....

Miles are only a number if the vehicle is taken care of....and on a Benz my friend 250k miles is nothing....NOTHING.....they are built to last....

Away from the miles......

I kept the car....I put a loan on it...the book value is $53k....I put a loan on it for $32k...payments are $500 a month...basically as much as a lease on a G37 I know which one I prefer.....

To be honest I had offer of $33k twice over..I wanted $33500....yeah a lousy $500 but I was already loosing $1500...didnt think the condition of the car was on a $33k...regardless of the miles....

SO I kept it....

So far ..I have put new rotors and pads up front and had the oil changed again as well as the tranny fluid and had it clayed and waxed again...it is getting a black suade headliner on tues and at the moment the car is up on jack stands....I am having the wheels competely redone and polishing the lips as well as adding 2 coats of clear to them.....it is costing $700...not bad to make them better then new....still think they are the best looking wheels on a Benz to this day......

Next it is getting lowered and a custom exhaust is being built.... all in all I will have less then $40k in the car...and it will still look brand new..tuned and insanely cool to own....

80k miles....my azz...... I could buy any low mile CL65.. ..I chose this car to keep for a while...that by itelf says something...and maybe it will bring a better light on these cars overall...

 

that was a good one.... I am on a roll...

 

i bought a 2005 blk cl65 about a year ago with 24kmiles on it for $47k. it was private party sale so i paid no sales tax, had a factory warranty for another 3 months, renntech ecu and built in front & rear radar. this is the baddest car i have owned PERIOD. the only other benz i have owned was a 2002 cl55 and was looking(and dreaming) of getting a cl65 for over 2 years. i said if i could have a cl that could keep up with a c6z i would be in heaven. this car has luxury/performance in 1 pkg. i am a vette/camaro guy for the past 15 yrs and currently own a 10 sec c6 z06-which i would give up in a heartbeat over the cl65. im currently setting the car up to run 10s with intercoolers/intake/tune this winter. whenever i here someone say they are looking for a new car, i always mention the 2005 cl65 is the most bang for the buck. where else can you find a car($185k car new) of this caliber for $40k-50K in like new condition with low miles? you cant, its a no brainer to me, but also not my prob if you buy a ****ier car for the same price. i did buy a DC ex warr for $3500 for 5yrs/60kmiles just for the piece of mind as this thing could require me to sell a kidney to fix. i will have this car for years to come.

here is a vid of a 700hp 03 zo6-heads/cam+150shot nos vs. my 05 cl65
60mph-150
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7pBH...eature=related

 

.................the point has never been whether or not, the CL65 is a desirable car. It is! The question has been why the thread starter's car is not selling. I notice you purchased a low mileage CL65 for $47K. Would you have purchased one with 83K miles at $35K? If you do, once you drive it for a year, it will have 100,000 miles and you cannot sell it.

................the seller thinks mileage should make zero diffeence when buying a car. Infact he states that one should prefer high mileage cars instead. Do you agree? If so why did you make the point of saying that yours had only 24K miles?

..................the seller admits to owning and selling 7 other CL65's in 2 years. He is a car dealer who is now stuck with a car he cannot sell. Calling everyone ignorant for not buying his high mileage CL65 for $35K and by his own admission refusing to sell the car for $33500 shows his mind set, which I think is different from yours.

Ted

 

Mileage is definite killer is used market

 

I am surprised my car isn't on the auction list. I traded it in back in April 2010. The dealership held onto it until early August. They dropped the price down to $39,995 before sending it to auction (far below my trade-in value...plus I got the sales tax credit on the trade). My car was bought by Exotic Motors in Chicago...here it is on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...t_33519wt_1165

I can't believe they put a pin-stripe on it...yuck...they probably did that to try to cover up a crack the car had on the left front fender...

I loved the CL65. But I have to admit that there were certain aspects of the car that were really showing its age. The W215 was essentially designed back in 1999 when it first came out in Europe. I really didn't feel like putting more money (either maintenance of updating some of the aging aspects) into a car that seems to never stop depreciating like an anvil. I am notorious for catching the "I need something new" bug. I also wanted something that felt a little bit lighter and could handle little more crisply.

Tom

 

i would not pay 35k for a cl65 with 83kmiles

 

Nobody here doesn't like the engineering and performance CL65. It's a great car.

Only a few are produced to be sold here because they just don't sell very well. Daimler would crank them out if they were hot sellers. There's no reason to keep production limited. Unless they aren't selling. But any over allocation of factory production would force prices way down with costly factory rebates in order to move the product. Daimler isn't stupid. Instead you limited production carefully and tag on a high MSRP that the limited market will just bear in order to make the car profitable. In addition, Daimler pays a lot of fines to the EPA on these cars ($30 million in excess mpg fines just in 2006 alone.)

The Retardedmunk isn't going to make reality ever change, no matter what he tries to say. If he had the magical powers to do so, he would be hired by Mercedes marketing and wouldn't have to sell used cars or drive old ones.

The fact is that these cars don't sell well on the new and the used market. They're fine automobiles but like many high end low production products out there, they don't have a huge audience (Leica R cameras have been like this, too: super high price new but dirt cheap used, and yet they're very well made and pretty reliable; they just have a very limited audience.)

It's just the way it is.

 

I saw this one for sale before also. Now that is a VERY NICE Example of a CL65. And the listing quality is professional. If I wasn't trying to buy a house right now, that car would be in my garage next to the E55.

 

I have had 4 low mile CL65's..... 9k..14k 22k...and 43k miles..all black cars and one blue one.......I always wanted a silver and wasnt willing to spend over $45k to get one...Black was a nightmare to keep clean and I feel the silver and Flint grey bring out the classy lines of the car overall....

Now back to the car i currently now own....it has 84k miles..I bought it with 80k miles....actually bought the car to keep....but decided on getting into another S65..which I bought anyway.....

my car is a 2 owner car and the last owner had it since 27k miles...

Here we go....
The car is as tight and as quick and as new appearing as my 22k car CL65 was....the suspension on these cars are designed to take a ton of stress and the body and frame ...unless you take it 4x4 sees almost no stress...therefore a 100k mile car will feel and drive like a 25k mile car...when comparing these AMG's......my opinion and experience being in both high and low mile cars...

Also my car still wears the original STRUTS...and maybe for some time...how you like that for reliablity? 5 years and 84k miles...ZERO suspension issues..

wear and tear? a CTS-V at 83k miles will hold up about half or less then one of these high end AMG's....i have owned 2 CTS-V's.......excellent cars...but a CTS is on every street corner and the CL65 is a rare sight to be seen.....Mercedes is years ahead on their tech and build engineering....always will be...

So what does all this mean? well the reliablity on my car will certainly be as good or better as a lower mile car..the engine is a low RPM power builder and can see an easy 250k miles....the only difference is where do you want to be on the food chain when reselling?

I paid $35k for my car...had offers of $33k and a trade plus cash equal to $35k...I didnt want to sell another car....I passed and kept the car...

I have actually lost $2k on the car owning it for now 2.5 months ....when it hits 100k and the car will be in excellent condition....it will be worth $28-30k...and that will be about a year or so away...

A black one on ebay with the wrong wheels and zero options as well as NO ENGINE COVER....has had offer of $30-31k...infact the guy I turned down at $33k...was going to offer $32k on the car...why I have no idea...maybe he was a cheap idiot....my car was certainy a better deal at the time...

So the car will lose $5k in value in 14 months...
Now ..the $47k car 02CL55 BOUGHT ....this car is worth about $42-43k now...if he sold he would lose after the warranty paid out out and $7k and in a year it will be worth $35-37k ...not much of a gap between mine and his...but he will be upside down on the car $13k in 14 months as I will be $5-6k.....

Now all this means crap if you keep the car for years as he will but see my point? I will be selling this car as soon as the 2008 CL65 hits mid 60's...in about a year ....

Point to remember...the DRIVETRAIN in these cars has a street value of close to $20k......WHY? nobody has a choice and none are ever for sale....supply and demand.....one goes bad...NEVER will ...you can pay $20k or $90k

If I parted out my cl65 AND sold everything ..it would be close to $30k or more easy.....so will these cars ever be $25k? maybe...but mileage shouldnt be a factor....and the cars deserve even at 150k miles....they deserve more respect then claiming a $25-27k price tag .......why should a CL65 be in the same league as a 85k mile 2008 IS350? which is a $25k car at auction.....WHY?? makes no sense.....

 

We get it. CL65 is Boss and you sir are very bored.

Now like Jay-z says, On to the next one.

 

If the CL65 is king or not....I love the car and thats all that matters....

My original purpose for this thread was to start a topic concerning our cars and opinions.....

Goal reached with 100 replies and a crap load of views...

YES!!!! thanks.....