saintz

E55 uses Airmatic, it doesn't need a rodeo. CL, SL, and S AMG will have ABC, which does rodeo.

Take it to a shop (dealer or Mercedes specific independent) with a STAR/SDS machine. They can pull the ABC suspension codes (a regular OBDII scanner like at Autozone can't). It will tell you if there are suspension codes that have been thrown, like leaking valve blocks, etc. A pre-purchase inspection in general is not a bad idea.

i_am_amused

[quote=malahhaor;4251210]You must have been sitting behind an empty passenger seat, because when the front seats are occupied, the CL back seat is useless for all but the smallest children.

Want to see a real back seat? Look in a W220.

TMC M5

[QUOTE=i_am_amused;4252630]Sorry, but that is complete . Maybe you are a 7 footer...or you like to roll with the seat all the way back.... but an average adult can sit behind another average adult in a CL without problems.

Tom

sound 8

I am not being rude, but I thought a Caddy is the last car to give you what you what you wanted, but then you might know something I don't.
When Top Gear were in the States testing they included the Cadillac, I was
very impressed and nearly booked a test drive until I found out they were
only available in left hand drive. I was hoping you would tell us what you think ,not an MB but anything that's interesting is worth talking about.
Have you done quarter mile yet.

saintz

My brother is 6'2" and I'm 5'8". When he was driving and I was behind him, I technically fit, but I couldn't move my feet, which were completely under his seat. My knees were basically touching his seat. I asked him to move the seat forward and he said he couldn't.

My wife's W204 C class is comfortable to sit in the back with her driving, and she's 5'8". If I were in the back seat, I'd rather be in the C class than the CL, I'm pretty sure.

I honestly am not sure where the room goes, because the CL is huge outside (particularly noticeable when parking or maneuvering city streets) but feels very "cozy" inside.

retardedmunk

Your......Still a moron....I AM NOT SELLING THE CAR....

when it was for sale I WAS asking $35k....the car is what it is...A DOG?
Nope it was just a 80k 2 owner CL65.... I GUESS after 75k miles...they all turn into dogs....time to pick up that 100k CADILLAC....Mercedes cant handle the miles..the quality is inferior....LOL...

your 2004 S55 is half the car the CL65 is.... maybe you own the dog?

TMC M5

[QUOTE=saintz;4253040]Read the quote by i_am_amused...he says that the back seat is "basically useless for all but the smallest of children". That doesn't sound like the situation you were in with an above average 6'2" driver (average height of an American male is 5'10"). Yes, a CL doesn't have the rear seating room of an S-Class...but what coupe does??? When I think "useless" back seats, I think Nissan GT-R or Aston Martin DB9. The CL's back seat is far from useless.

Tom

Quadcammer

Irony...

This kid has been making the exact same kinda posts for at least a year and a half.

He's just a kid with a financed to the hilt inventory peddling as many auction cars as he can.


well... when he's not snorting coke off the hoods of the cars that is.

Fraser

You beat me to it with that first line!

maw1124

And here you have the crux of the reason not a CL for everyone. Of course, I'm looking for one now (but it won't have anywhere near 85k on it). And I already own an S. But it would be a 4th car, after the Audi wagon, S sedan and M convertible. Why, just because -- and it's a damned nice car. Big boy player mobile. Not for kids.

But they all turn into dogs when people cannot afford the maintenance, or when they sit in dealer inventory. Everyone knows the top of the line Mercedes don't "sit" well -- this has been true since the 560SEC, and probably a lot longer. No hunk of metal with petroleum based (plastic and rubber) moving parts CAN sit well -- the parts get brittle, fluids leak everywhere, etc., etc. We all know that drill.

So you start with a select target clientele to begin with (the 4th luxury car crowd who can afford the maintenance), who are also smart enough not to buy a high mileage car (unless it comes with a brilliant service history), which has had a couple of owners and been "sitting" off the maintenance grid for 6 or 8 months. That's a tough sell, Bro. Good luck.

maw

maw

i_am_amused

[quote=TMC M5;4252860]Want to see a real back seat? Look in a W220.

i_am_amused

do you still have it? If not, GLWS

hyperion667

I have owned 8 CL65's in the last 2 years....I currently own a 83k mile car and a S65.....


why??

i_am_amused

he pretends to be Kurt Russell in "Used Cars" and flips them. Except for this current canine, which he has been unable to unload, and now claims he's not selling.

MBZFAN55

Leasing does not negate or even minimize the substantial depreciation of this or any other highline AMG product as the residual value reflects the loss in value of the car. You can pay now or you can pay later, but rest assured, you will pay regardless of buying or leasing.

jeffw666

He does have the number built incorrect as well

CL 55 AMG
2001 303
2002 607
2003 1379
2004 611
2005 486
2006 182

CL 63 AMG
2007 1201
2008 1476

CL 65 AMG
2005 142
2006 52
2007 289
2008 327

TMC M5

[QUOTE=i_am_amused;4277652]Usually you use the smiley to agree with someone else...not yourself... unless you have multiple personalities...then it is ok..

No one is debating that the S class has a big back seat..bigger than most luxury sedans this side of a Maybach or limo. The CL65 is a coupe. It has a decent back seat for coupe. Probably the only luxury coupe with a bigger back seat is the Bentley Continental, and it isn't that much bigger. The CL65's back seat room compares favorably to a smaller sedan. Coupes are less practical which makes them somewhat less desirable to the masses.

Tom

i_am_amused

I checked today. My seat is far enough back that I look *behind* the B-pillar and out the rear door window to check my driver's side blind spot. And I'm only 5'10".



you mean you, not me, I mean us, but thanks. to yer momma!

a W215 is as big as a W220, yet the back seat is far from "decent" as you claim. It's rather indecent, being so obscenely small. You're right, it would compare favorably to a "smaller sedan", like a C-class, which itself has an almost useless back seat.

Do you agree? I do. I mean we do. WERD!

TMC M5

Not really.... A W220 S-class is 203.1" long, with a wheelbase of 121.5". A W215 CL is 196.6", with a wheelbase of 113.6". That is a 6.5" difference in length and 7.9" difference is wheelbase. Those differences would suggest that the CL is NOT "as big as a W220". The trade off for those differences is that a W215 CL65 is about 250lbs lighter than a W220 S65 (4,650lbs vs 4,900lbs). That is why MB makes a CL class, for those who don't necessary use the back seat every day, but it is there for when you need it. They get the luxury or the S-class with a better handling and acceleration due to the lighter weight.

Tom

TRAKCAR

I've had S classes and CL has nowhere same room in back.
Not many cars do.

Compared to the C class and maybe even E class the CL as similar room.
I am 6'4" long legs and always liked the seat to go back all the way on S class but you are looking sideways out the back window.

I love pillarlessnes of the CL, it was the main reason for buying it over S class, I can look out the side of the car through the front side window and when avg size people get in and out of the back I can lower the rear side window to make it pretty easy to get in and out and they can actually fit behind me.
I'm not very comfy, but it is doable and I would not be comfy in C class or E class either.

I don't think there is another 2 door coupe that is as 4 passenger friendly as the CL.

02cl55amg

who's saying OUR cars are not popular?

alextaylor29

I think it's a fantastic car especially given it's value as a used car. In 2005 it was the most powerful production car/coupe in the world! With some minor tuning (Less than $3K) you can have it up to 850 ft/lb tq and 750 HP, all for under $40K!

It's my next car for sure. (I have an E55 now.) That or an S65. (I have 3 wonderful kids.).

Great car, people are just missing out.

My $.02.

Keep the faith, people are missing out!

maw1124

@AlexTaylor29: My $.02, with 3 wonderful kids, get the S65. Wonderful kids is the reason for S's over CL's. I carefully considered both and opted for the S. What can I say, grown [family] man style. Now when I see CL's, I'm like "One day I'll get one. I'm glad I didn't do it then. Wife, 2 kids, plus Grandma roll comfy on long trips." In the used market, they're all steals if you get the right one (single owner, grown-up car, no racing, no mods, no pets, no paint, no stories, etc.).

maw

NRL

Ditto. I'm a AMG newbie and the 2nd Owner of a primo mint 2005 CL65..60k miles for $35k. So far no issues. Paint chips, so what, touch em up. Oil Low light, hey, it's an AMG, if you go fast, it burns a bit.. fill it up to recommended.

It's like anything, do your homework if your looking for one.

It's a steal for the same engine and tranny as the Maybachs and newer cl and S models..without taking the depreciation hit.

It's a weekend car and it gets my heart pumping everytime I start it it up on the weekends, and gun it.. the power is addicting and you will want more. The ABC and dynamic seats do there jobs in the corners.

The kids love it too. I have one backup baby seat in the back. No issues with the 9 yrs old in back or my friends that have sat in the back. Wife is a bit upset it's not a 4 door but it's too late, the deed is done; at least I didn't get a porsche or a two seater. Grandma can ride in the best mini van..

Awesome Coupe. Not sure if I would take the depreciation hit on a new CL though.. I probably could lease one but what more will it give me other then it being newer? Is the new one better by that much? Probably not.

lkirchner

"I probably could lease one but what more will it give me other then it being newer?" You are going to pay for that depreciation one way or another. Resale or residual is going to get you.