W215 CL55/65 AMG ALL Carbon Fiber Front Bumper Conversion.
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Attorney involved lol As if it wasn't the general consensus, I think you just proved how everything you type is bull*****.
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MBWorld watch out! You guys are in deep "doodle" is it? Yes. Doodle. I wonder how this is going to look in front of the judge:
A member of the Mercedes-Benz enthusiast forum, MBWorld, is being sued by one of it's former members 'Imbackfags'. He has been banned from a use of/and not limited to; racial slurs, rude remarks ie. name calling, plotting of defamation of character against an individual and company. He is taking them to court for according to him, "violating his First Right Amendment."
What a baboon
A member of the Mercedes-Benz enthusiast forum, MBWorld, is being sued by one of it's former members 'Imbackfags'. He has been banned from a use of/and not limited to; racial slurs, rude remarks ie. name calling, plotting of defamation of character against an individual and company. He is taking them to court for according to him, "violating his First Right Amendment."
What a baboon
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"The customer is always right!!"
I know nothing of the current brew ha, but as an independent business owner with almost 35 year of experience dealing with consumers, I have to say that "The customer is always right!!" is simply not true.
Most customers expect what they are promised and no more. And if a problem occurs, that it be handled in a professional and timely manner.
And then there are others, who have unreasonable expectations. They wish to make their problem, whether it be budget, time constrains, or **** perfectionism, into someone else's problem. Namely the service provider.
When a customer is so unreasonable that I feel we are better off without their business, I have from time to time have found it necessary to "fire" a customer. It's quite simple really. I just state that I am sorry that myself or my staff have been unable to meet their expectations and that we must agree to disagree and part company. And I wish them good luck finding what they are looking for, end of story.
As for a supplier providing an item unavailable elsewhere, what does it matter how or where he creates it or commissions it to be made? Artists have reproductions of their creations made by others all the time and no one accuses them of fraud.
"The customer is always right!!"
I know nothing of the current brew ha, but as an independent business owner with almost 35 year of experience dealing with consumers, I have to say that "The customer is always right!!" is simply not true.
Most customers expect what they are promised and no more. And if a problem occurs, that it be handled in a professional and timely manner.
And then there are others, who have unreasonable expectations. They wish to make their problem, whether it be budget, time constrains, or **** perfectionism, into someone else's problem. Namely the service provider.
When a customer is so unreasonable that I feel we are better off without their business, I have from time to time have found it necessary to "fire" a customer. It's quite simple really. I just state that I am sorry that myself or my staff have been unable to meet their expectations and that we must agree to disagree and part company. And I wish them good luck finding what they are looking for, end of story.
As for a supplier providing an item unavailable elsewhere, what does it matter how or where he creates it or commissions it to be made? Artists have reproductions of their creations made by others all the time and no one accuses them of fraud.
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Back on topic guys. I will only ignore all the other post from you know who. Just for the record, I am the only who designs all the parts, not only for this, but for all the other race parts and private label parts we make for other companies. Always consider the source before before reading things.
Regarding the bumper. I will be crunching some numbers again to see if I can simplify some things to help the cost as much as possible, and I will also be coming up with ideas of the bumper final bumper design and post all of this on Monday.
Member kamilclk430 and I came to a reasonable and mature agreement and he is now added to the list.
Here is the current list.
1. zneB-sedecreM
2. kenpho10
3. pman
4. JDS28
5. kamilclk430
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Regarding the bumper. I will be crunching some numbers again to see if I can simplify some things to help the cost as much as possible, and I will also be coming up with ideas of the bumper final bumper design and post all of this on Monday.
Member kamilclk430 and I came to a reasonable and mature agreement and he is now added to the list.
Here is the current list.
1. zneB-sedecreM
2. kenpho10
3. pman
4. JDS28
5. kamilclk430
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Thanks Neal.
For all you other guys this is a huge improvement that will not only change styling but bring you a part thats a limited production item. You simply cant go wrong on this one. So get in on this before it fills up.
For all you other guys this is a huge improvement that will not only change styling but bring you a part thats a limited production item. You simply cant go wrong on this one. So get in on this before it fills up.
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Back on topic guys. I will only ignore all the other post from you know who. Just for the record, I am the only who designs all the parts, not only for this, but for all the other race parts and private label parts we make for other companies. Always consider the source before before reading things.
Regarding the bumper. I will be crunching some numbers again to see if I can simplify some things to help the cost as much as possible, and I will also be coming up with ideas of the bumper final bumper design and post all of this on Monday.
Member kamilclk430 and I came to a reasonable and mature agreement and he is now added to the list.
Here is the current list.
1. zneB-sedecreM
2. kenpho10
3. pman
4. JDS28
5. kamilclk430
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Regarding the bumper. I will be crunching some numbers again to see if I can simplify some things to help the cost as much as possible, and I will also be coming up with ideas of the bumper final bumper design and post all of this on Monday.
Member kamilclk430 and I came to a reasonable and mature agreement and he is now added to the list.
Here is the current list.
1. zneB-sedecreM
2. kenpho10
3. pman
4. JDS28
5. kamilclk430
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
None of you two are bad people by any means.Welcome aboard Kamil! Cool, we're half way there with the thread being only what, 2 days old? Awesome! I'm sure we can fill up some more. There has to be more people out there that love their CL, and want to see a '63' style, conversion kit for it
Awesome Neal, I'm excited for Monday.
-Exactly kamilclk430
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One question? If you dis-like euroteck/Neals product . Why do you want to buy it and be part of any group buy relate to it. Maybe you can start you own group buy with another company to make you products that you envy so much but can't get your hands on it. As for my extra side skirt, I rather give it away for free before I sell it to you. Why not just close this chapter in your life with mbworld and move on.
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If my car was white or silver, I think it would be great to have this bumper because you would be able to see the lines more which you really can't see if your car is black and you would be able to see the carbon fiber if you decide to mask off some parts of the bumper. Just my opinion, other then that I still think this will be a great upgrade for our cars. Also I just wanted to add in, the cf lip will still be able to fit on the bumper but I dont see how it would match up and look good if the bumper is pointy and the lip is curved? Anyone know what I mean or see with that?
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Hi Guys,
Here is a picture I made to explain more of what the bumper will look like. Keep in mind, we are using the stock bumper and working from that, so it is not going to lose all the nice things about the stock bumper. The areas we will change are labeled and identified below.
A. Center top side of the bumper will gradually become more pointy like a W211 E63.
B. Bottom of bumper will get just a "pinch" in the dead center area, not as dramatic as the top side though. This will not only freshen up the style, but it will also match nicely with the front lip. If you notice to those who have our front lip, the center of the lip has a slight point on it, while the stock bumper does not. This will really set off a nice effect for those who have the front lip.
C. Optional LED fog lights will be mounted at the top above the stock fog lights which we plan to remove. (new mesh will be provided).
D. Added side vents will be made quite similar to those on a CLK black series.
E. Side openings will be opened up just a bit, and the top and sides will be made more square and pronounced.
End result will all flow together for those with or without the front lip and will look down right aggressive. Hope this helps a little.
Here is a picture I made to explain more of what the bumper will look like. Keep in mind, we are using the stock bumper and working from that, so it is not going to lose all the nice things about the stock bumper. The areas we will change are labeled and identified below.
A. Center top side of the bumper will gradually become more pointy like a W211 E63.
B. Bottom of bumper will get just a "pinch" in the dead center area, not as dramatic as the top side though. This will not only freshen up the style, but it will also match nicely with the front lip. If you notice to those who have our front lip, the center of the lip has a slight point on it, while the stock bumper does not. This will really set off a nice effect for those who have the front lip.
C. Optional LED fog lights will be mounted at the top above the stock fog lights which we plan to remove. (new mesh will be provided).
D. Added side vents will be made quite similar to those on a CLK black series.
E. Side openings will be opened up just a bit, and the top and sides will be made more square and pronounced.
End result will all flow together for those with or without the front lip and will look down right aggressive. Hope this helps a little.
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If my car was white or silver, I think it would be great to have this bumper because you would be able to see the lines more which you really can't see if your car is black and you would be able to see the carbon fiber if you decide to mask off some parts of the bumper. Just my opinion, other then that I still think this will be a great upgrade for our cars. Also I just wanted to add in, the cf lip will still be able to fit on the bumper but I dont see how it would match up and look good if the bumper is pointy and the lip is curved? Anyone know what I mean or see with that?
I think that's about all we can do to that front bumper
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Hi Guys,
Here is a picture I made to explain more of what the bumper will look like. Keep in mind, we are using the stock bumper and working from that, so it is not going to lose all the nice things about the stock bumper. The areas we will change are labeled and identified below.
A. Center top side of the bumper will gradually become more pointy like a W211 E63.
B. Bottom of bumper will get just a "pinch" in the dead center area, not as dramatic as the top side though. This will not only freshen up the style, but it will also match nicely with the front lip. If you notice to those who have our front lip, the center of the lip has a slight point on it, while the stock bumper does not. This will really set off a nice effect for those who have the front lip.
C. Optional LED fog lights will be mounted at the top above the stock fog lights which we plan to remove. (new mesh will be provided).
D. Added side vents will be made quite similar to those on a CLK black series.
E. Side openings will be opened up just a bit, and the top and sides will be made more square and pronounced.
End result will all flow together for those with or without the front lip and will look down right aggressive. Hope this helps a little.
Here is a picture I made to explain more of what the bumper will look like. Keep in mind, we are using the stock bumper and working from that, so it is not going to lose all the nice things about the stock bumper. The areas we will change are labeled and identified below.
A. Center top side of the bumper will gradually become more pointy like a W211 E63.
B. Bottom of bumper will get just a "pinch" in the dead center area, not as dramatic as the top side though. This will not only freshen up the style, but it will also match nicely with the front lip. If you notice to those who have our front lip, the center of the lip has a slight point on it, while the stock bumper does not. This will really set off a nice effect for those who have the front lip.
C. Optional LED fog lights will be mounted at the top above the stock fog lights which we plan to remove. (new mesh will be provided).
D. Added side vents will be made quite similar to those on a CLK black series.
E. Side openings will be opened up just a bit, and the top and sides will be made more square and pronounced.
End result will all flow together for those with or without the front lip and will look down right aggressive. Hope this helps a little.
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I'm pretty sure it's going to be based off the dimensions of the stock bumper. Thing is it's going to look lower and bigger because of the illusion of the wider, bigger mouth where the mesh is. We still have to be able to fit the Euroteck lip. If you did this, you'll probably-definitely be the only guy in the world with this front end on a Tectite CL AMG That's pretty cool since it is such an uncommon colour for these cars
That's pretty cool since it is such an uncommon colour for these cars
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Hi Guys,
I played with some numbers today. Some news to share. Each bumper will take approximately over $780 of carbon fiber material alone! Which is not such great news. Here is what we came up with.
We can do them in carbon fiber for 5 members at $3,600 each, reason? we need to purchase and use half as little material then buying enough for 10 bumpers.
However at the $1,800 price for 10, it is to low of a price to do it all in carbon fiber due to high cost of the modification involved. However, we CAN do it at the price of $1,800 for 10 people, the bumper will be fiberglass BUT we will make the sides in carbon fiber, because we all know 99.9% of your will leave the side vents unpainted. So this will accomplish that style. If we get 10, and some of you insist on the carbon fiber entire bumper only, we can do it for you, but you will incur an up charge.
If I can lower the price for 5 members to the higher $2,000 range for the fiberglass bumper with carbon sides, do you guys feel that would help? If so I will play with the numbers that way...
Thanks
I played with some numbers today. Some news to share. Each bumper will take approximately over $780 of carbon fiber material alone! Which is not such great news. Here is what we came up with.
We can do them in carbon fiber for 5 members at $3,600 each, reason? we need to purchase and use half as little material then buying enough for 10 bumpers.
However at the $1,800 price for 10, it is to low of a price to do it all in carbon fiber due to high cost of the modification involved. However, we CAN do it at the price of $1,800 for 10 people, the bumper will be fiberglass BUT we will make the sides in carbon fiber, because we all know 99.9% of your will leave the side vents unpainted. So this will accomplish that style. If we get 10, and some of you insist on the carbon fiber entire bumper only, we can do it for you, but you will incur an up charge.
If I can lower the price for 5 members to the higher $2,000 range for the fiberglass bumper with carbon sides, do you guys feel that would help? If so I will play with the numbers that way...
Thanks
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I would like it to be all carbon fiber.... How much would you think it would cost if any member wanted full carbon. That was if we get 10 member.. $3600 is a great price for a custom bumper in carbon fiber and I would do it right away but i don't really hate the Oem amg bumper to replace it for a $3600 one. Hopefully the cost of a all carbon one with 10 member wouldn't be so bad. I know if you what the best and play. I need to lighten up my wallet.
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I would like it to be all carbon fiber.... How much would you think it would cost if any member wanted full carbon. That was if we get 10 member.. $3600 is a great price for a custom bumper in carbon fiber and I would do it right away but i don't really hate the Oem amg bumper to replace it for a $3600 one. Hopefully the cost of a all carbon one with 10 member wouldn't be so bad. I know if you what the best and play. I need to lighten up my wallet.
Hey guys, sorry been out of pocket for a few days, so a bit behind. Have a question, a bit odd no one raised it yet
. If 5 units of all CF is $3600 each, and 10 units of all CF is $1800 each (I realize this may now be higher), why would we purchase one for $3600? I would much rather buy 2 (if every one else is willing to do the same) for $3600 (at $1800 each), and then sell one or keep as spare just in case. Maybe I am missing something 
I am ok with either CF or the fiberglass + CF version, but I too would prefer the 10 unit pricing. I would be one of the guys, as Neal suggests, who would paint mine, and only leave the vents/sides as CF. So the fiberglass + CF would suffice. But would like to know pricing for full CF also please.
Hey KenPho10, btw did you ever sell your spare side skirt? If you recall, I was the other guy who bought 2, spare currently sitting in my garage
. Full disclosure, ashamed to say it but I have not installed my first one either - car had a bad battery and was idle a few weeks. Just got battery replaced so will install the side skirt soon. If you know of someone who wants to buy a side skirt set, please let me know.
