Erik

Agree. Treynor is an experienced 1/4 track player so am not that supprised he get those result. Insanly quick for a stock car.....

Sport Auto got 0.2 tenth worse 1/4 time and 1 sec slower 0-125 mph time than what he made. That could also be related to the normal variance in performance and traction on the track.

But the cars are totaly different, and the huge torque and power of the Bi Turbo V12 is hard to beat. The M5 is over 100 Hp down on power and have just a bit more than half the torque of the AMG...... That is a big differnce.....


The SL65 is definatly faster than the M5.
From results gotten in Europe the M5 is not far of the CL65.

From all the tests made of the pre-series M5 they are mostly in the mid 13 sec territory from 0-125 mph ( 13.5-13,7 and 13,7 on 3 different tests).
Only 1 have been +14 sec.
So the new M5 is really fast also.

Iron Sheik

F*CK YA it is a fast car!
I just dont get why sometimes people compare the BAD time of one car to the GOOD time of another car. You know what I mean?
The only fair comparison anyone can make is if both cars are tested head-to-head. That way, elevation, temperature, humidity, road condition, etc etc can be taken out of the context and no excuses will be made.
Anyways, all of these cars are quick and very nice!

Iron Sheik

Erik

Agree, it was not my intention to do so. All my AMG references comes from the same European mag. So does the fastest M5 times, but they are not made on the same day.

That was can agree 100 % on.

FThornton666

Thats exactly what im saying man. I swear some of the comparisons ive seen on car sites over the years. Ive seen Civic compared to Ferraris, of course im sure you can guess the argument on that one. "Well sure but you paid XXX dollars and with the money i saved on my (insert cheaper car) i could run circles around you"

Also about These Kleeman, and Brabus cars, where can i find a dealer with some in? I know Long Beach supposedly had a few, but the dealers around me dont.

00SVTdubs

the cobra runs 11.3 no n20 and 10.8 on spray. The benz supposedly runs 12.5 right? So why is this so hard to believe. The Benz is not a race car, the cobra is.

even though the cobra is faster than the CL65....

CL65 > Cobra

even if the benz owner put the pulley and intercooler, blower spacer, whatever... then all the cobra had to do to win was spray!!!! hehe

FThornton666

CL65s should be good for 11.8, 11.7, so basically Viper times.

00SVTdubs

so the cobra is a full half second faster than the CL65.... hense the video!

still... CL65 > Cobra in my opinion.

FThornton666

Id rather have the SL65 though.

blk03cl55

Man, I had no idea the Cobra's were that fast. I had a real hooked up, supercharged Mustang built by paxton that did a 12.7 quarter mile, and it felt so to me compared to my Z06 at the time. Well, since I am a speed freak, I think I may consider getting a cobra.
So to all you Cobra guys, should I wait for the New style version of the SVT if they make one, or should I just get one of the leftover units at the local dealer?
Where do you guys go in Southern Cali for performance work. I would want that KB on there right away.

00SVTdubs

the new cobra will not be out till 07 and we have no idea what it is going to be. Your best bet is to pick up an 03-04 with good miles and mod away. with a kb on there you will be in the 10's EASY, 9s with traction if you go the crazy route like I did. SoCalDiablo is in socal, pm dgussin1, he lives in LA and will know more about the area then me! Good luck, you wont regret it!

00SVTdubs

here are a few GOOD forums to check out. I suggest just go on there and use the SEARCH button and you will find any questions you have will already be answered...

www.svtperformance.com/forums
www.modularfords.com/forums
www.svtsnake.com

good luck! If you need any mod advise, feel free to pm me and Ill talk to u via email, phone whatever. Ive had A LOT, more than a lot of experience with 03-04 Cobra's!

dgussin1

Like 00svtdubs said the next gen cobra wont be out till late 06 early 07, so I would definately get this gen cobra for now.

I personally do all of my own work on my cobra for a couple reasons:

1) I don't really like any of our local performance shops
2) Why pay somebody $90/hr to do basic wrenching. Swapping the blower on the car is 10 top mount bolts and a few other random bolts and other things things. I can do a complete blower swap in about 4-5 hours start to finish. All the exhaust and intake stuff is simple too.

The only thing I prefer not to do is suspension stuff. I don't have all of the equipment to align it and all the other necessary things.

If you would like some advise as to where you could take your car, shoot me a PM. As 00svtdubs said their is socaldiablo. Stay away from there. lol

i23l13i

Thanx give me 200 shot in the CL65! I dont think i'll see the mustang and if i got my self wrong basically your sayin this cobra can beat an enzo. Ok in my point **** quarter miles. Thats all jap and american garbage. When it comes to the HIGHWAY, GERMAN CARS RULE. I think u heard of the AUTOBAUHN. Like wise no american or jap cars come close to any german car. Now I got to the point were I just dont give one **** about american or jap cars I think about

Bmw
M5s, Z8s, M6s, M3s, Mcoupes, Mroadsters, X5 4.8is etc M1,M4,M8

Mercedes C32amgs, C55amgs, SLK55amgs, CLK55amgs, E55amgs, S55amg, S65amg, CL55amg, CL65amgs, SL55amgs, SL65amgs, ML55amgs, G55Kamgs, and SLRs

Porsche
911 targa, 911 coupes, 911 carreras, 911 turbos, GT2s, GT3s, Carrera Gts, and yea another suv Cayenne Turbos

Audi
S8s, S4s, RS6s, TTs, etc not a big fan of audis

Basically these are all cars in every class. So like wise MONEY ISNT THE ISSUE HERE. ITS ALL POWER BEAUTY LOVE AND PASSION OF THESE AMAZIN CARS, NOTHING SUCH LIKE GOING 0-155 WITH NO FEAR! AS THESE MACHINES ARE ALL ABLE TO DO 155+. SO U TELL ME WHATS A CAR? AND A CAR IS MEANT FOR EVERYDAY NEED. NOW FOR EXAMPLE YOUR DUMB CARS
VIPER SRT-10/GT3. AROUND SAME PRICE 89K VS 100K. WAT ARE YOU SPENDING 11K MORE ON? A TRUE REFINED SPORTS CARS DESIGNED TO HANDLE LIKE A BEAUTY AND CHEW THE ROAD UP WE HAVE PRIDE IN OUR CARS WE DONT JUST DUMP BIG MOTORS AND RACE ON STRAIGHTs NO SORRY WE DONT NEED EVERY CARS INTERIOR LOOK THE SAME EITHER SO **** OFF

CL65 WIT MY WINDOWS DOWN DRIVIN AWAY BEATING THE **** OUT OF AND YES GOING 200MPH NOTHING FEELS MORE GREAT THEN DRINKING COKE AND GOING 175 AND LOOOKING OVER AT A COBRA WILL HES WORKING HIS WAY UP SHIFTING HOPEING HIS MOTOR DOESNT BLOW OR SOMETHIN BREAKS WILL THE BENZO GOT THE WARRENTY LOL I THINK I SHOULD STOP HERE I THINK AN AMERICAN CAR FAN WILL KILL HIM SELF

dgussin1

i23l13i

you are a moron, nothing more, nothing less. You probably don't even own a car, let alone a german one.

FThornton666

Ill give you some info on the new cobra.


These are not set in stone, but this is what SVT and Ford are looking at. in 2008/09 the Ford GT will no longer meet US regulatory standards and will be discontinued and in its place the Shelby Cobra concept. Since Shelby is synomious with the Cobra name, the Cobra name will be dropped from the mustang line up. The next SVT Mustang will come in two versions. a Z06 like race track styled GT-500, and a Regular more streety version called the GT350. With the 500 getting a supercharged 5.4 Liter V8 from the GT, and the 350 getting the new 5.0 Cammer, either N/A or Supercharged. The 350 will make some where around 450 horses, and the 500 version making around 500 HP. Infact ive been thinking about it, if you want to see the power of the next Cobra, look no further than the E55. a 5.4 Liter Supercharged car. Also if i remember correctly the E55 is underated and is closer to 500 horses. Now what i just stated is not for sure, but expect numbers around there.

6 Speed IRS will be the featured, also a 6 speed Solid axle might go into the 350, with the IRS going into the 500.

Erik

Its Autobahn








Does not exist......

MB AMG

LMAO! What are you trying to say i23l13i??

MadC32

even though I'm a complete AMG-Nut.. I love those Mustangs.. would have gotten one myself (if I had the chance..!) before I got the C32.
Props to your car & driving skills.. was expecting the 65 AMG to smoke you..

trock3155

http://www.bmw850.de/pics/850_36small.jpg

FThornton666

I love that car so much. V12 Powaaaa!!!! I cant wait for the new M6, carbon fiber roof. 5.0 Liter 550 horses, or is it 5.5 550? I forget right now but i know 550 Horses. 9000 RPM rev limiter, probably gonna sound like an Carrera GT, or a McLaren F1 at full revvs. Also there will be a CSL version of the M6.

Erik

I say again, it does not exist.

The pic is of an normal 850 csi. 380 Hp and 5,6 ltr V12

It has been made one prototype that would have been called M8, but was never put into production.
M4 does also not exist, and will most probably not be made.
They will maybe put an M engine into the Z4 but that is not decided yet.

Erik

New M6.
http://www.bmw.com/generic/com/en/p...ase_1/movie.htm


Romours claims it will have 600 Hp. Personally I doubt it will have that much.

It will be a beast......

FThornton666

Ive heard from good sourses 550, with the 5.0 Liter V10, or a 5.5 Liter. Also there will be a CSL version. I seriously hope a M7 is made, so that we S 600/55 will have some competition. Competition is good for everyone, especially us consumers

Also how many CL65s have been sold around So.Cal, ive seen maybe 4-5 no joke. Ive seen 2 at the Keyes dealer waiting to be sold, then a Black one drivin by and old eastern european background looking man driviing it. Then i saw a Kid Driving one down Rodeo, and i think i saw one on the highway silver.

Also ive seen a few SL65s.

reggid

latest info: m6 same as m5 500hp and m6csl 550hp (possibly)

Bilal

The M6 came out 3 days ago, and with 500hp....


So is no CL65 owner willing to make a speedo video ?