2020 CLA vs 2020 Gran Coupe 2 Series? Which is better?
I put it against the 2020 CLA the king at the moment, to see how it compares... didn't expect this outcome!
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It is just shy of two months for me in my CLA 250 4Matic and I am just now starting to get a handle on the performance and on all the features of MBUX. I have to tip my cap to MB for giving us 3 years of updates for MBUX and a 30 day trial period on the in car WiFi.
I agree with the review that this engine transmission combination are more than adequate, but I do miss the 9 speed from my previous C-Class. For MB drivers going into a Front wheel biased car does take some getting used to even with 4Matic.
You should have shown the cars at night, but since they were both loaners I am guessing there were time constraints. The MBUX system with ambient lighting at night is like some futuristic cockpit. I get a lot of folks slowing down just to take it all in. It is customizable so you can tune it down and take off the bling. But whats the fun in that?
With overall car sales on the decline this is an interesting tack that Mercedes has taken going forward. Those Tesla fanboys have their E-cars but MB now has the MBUX tech they wished they had.
It is just shy of two months for me in my CLA 250 4Matic and I am just now starting to get a handle on the performance and on all the features of MBUX. I have to tip my cap to MB for giving us 3 years of updates for MBUX and a 30 day trial period on the in car WiFi.
I agree with the review that this engine transmission combination are more than adequate, but I do miss the 9 speed from my previous C-Class. For MB drivers going into a Front wheel biased car does take some getting used to even with 4Matic.
You should have shown the cars at night, but since they were both loaners I am guessing there were time constraints. The MBUX system with ambient lighting at night is like some futuristic cockpit. I get a lot of folks slowing down just to take it all in. It is customizable so you can tune it down and take off the bling. But whats the fun in that?
With overall car sales on the decline this is an interesting tack that Mercedes has taken going forward. Those Tesla fanboys have their E-cars but MB now has the MBUX tech they wished they had.
I have a few weeks left before I get an answer on the buyback and with that being said - I was looking into alternatives from the german segment. I do like the BMW 2 series, but the interior and infotainment between the 2 is a night and day difference in a major favor to Mercedes.
In my honest opinion, most vehicles will get you from point A to point B in a relative manner. A Mercedes CX-5, in my opinion, is twice the vehicle of the current generation of the GLA 250 with it's 'old' design style/infotainment/interior etc for a vehicle that's a quarter of the price.
That said, it's the interior and infotainment and build quality that wins my business. And well, my A220's fit/finish and overall build quality is worse than a Ford Focus. But again, there's a reason I'm pursuing a buyback..
Just my 0.02c for what it's worth. The reason I'm browsing this section is because with a buyback/replacement - I'm going to request Mercedes to put me into an up-optioned CLA or CLA35. I'm sure they will shoot that down and that's their right. But it will also be my right to not go through with the buyback and pursue a lemon law so that they cannot sell a vehicle that belongs in a junk yard
.https://www.motorist.sg/article/475/...edes-cla-class
Things that pop out:
- MBUX screens make the car feel cheap. Look like iPads and leave a low-effort impression since they're tacked onto the dashboard without any surrounding instrument panel sculpting.
- MBUX is cool but at times overwhelming. At least the climate controls have physical buttons. Android Auto is fine. The way it integrates into MBUX is a big benefit.
- We have the non-AMG suspension, and it's a bit floaty but not the worst thing in the world. It does lack the chiseled granite ride quality of older Benzes, and it can take bumps a bit harshly. This behavior was more evident on the AMG sport pack cars, so we preferred the cruiser suspension tuning. Either way, it feels a bit cheap.
- The doors, trunk, interior materials are all cheap and few are soft touch. The visual appeal is great but the tactile feel is appropriate for ... a CLA250. No mistaking this car for a nicer Benz. My '12 C300 had much nicer interior materials.
- Seats are harder to get comfortable in. They feel oddly shaped. It's like they're 90% of what size they should be. I'm still trying to discover if this is something I can adjust with the proper settings. It reminds me of driving an Audi A3 loaner vs. the S3. The S3 seats had longer lower and side cushions and felt appropriate whereas the A3 seats felt like they were meant for a 14-year-old child.
- The transmission is occasionally jerky when pulling off. Otherwise, it's generally imperceptible. It does a decent job in Sport when I want to be more aggressive. It doesn't take forever to downshift like older Benz automatics. Full throttle shifts are a lot quicker as well.
- The engine is OK. When using the paddles and avoiding the kick-down switch it's a bit pokey at low revs. It's not bad, and I recorded a 5.9 second 0-60 dragy time. I'm pretty sure it's quicker than my old '12 C300 with a tune.
- The car is very quiet around town and on the highway. This is the biggest benefit of the low drag coefficient on the C118 chassis and is likely its best quality.
It's evident Mercedes, and other manufacturers, are working to find ways to survive and make a margin. Mercedes got the big things right and they have modular components and architectures that can be applied across different chassis and models. This reduces cost but it also reduces that special feeling that should come with a Mercedes. For example, the only thing that really changes on MBUX applications is graphics. They're the same screens in the CLA, E, and future C. The new S-Class will even feature variations of the same (cheap) screens. Tech is great when it's current, and the MBUX platform allows MB to frontload investment and allow for updates and unlockable, chargeable, tech components, but these screens will get old and outdated. If anyone has experience replacing the speedo and radio screens on a W222 S550, you'll also understand the added cost when something goes wrong. Again, margin needs to be made, and customer preferences dictate business decisions, but at what stage do we get to feel a little bit of that old Benz magic again? There's something to be said for sitting down in a timeless cockpit where things work.
Either way, I think next go around we'll look at a C-Class or E-Class lease, or maybe take another look at a CLA35/CLA45. I would've preferred a more basic C300 over this CLA250, but it's not bad. In fact, we should've gone with the Volvo S60 T6 we looked at; it was a lot more car for the same lease money.
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Things that pop out:
- MBUX screens make the car feel cheap. Look like iPads and leave a low-effort impression since they're tacked onto the dashboard without any surrounding instrument panel sculpting.
- MBUX is cool but at times overwhelming. At least the climate controls have physical buttons. Android Auto is fine. The way it integrates into MBUX is a big benefit.
- We have the non-AMG suspension, and it's a bit floaty but not the worst thing in the world. It does lack the chiseled granite ride quality of older Benzes, and it can take bumps a bit harshly. This behavior was more evident on the AMG sport pack cars, so we preferred the cruiser suspension tuning. Either way, it feels a bit cheap.
- The doors, trunk, interior materials are all cheap and few are soft touch. The visual appeal is great but the tactile feel is appropriate for ... a CLA250. No mistaking this car for a nicer Benz. My '12 C300 had much nicer interior materials.
- Seats are harder to get comfortable in. They feel oddly shaped. It's like they're 90% of what size they should be. I'm still trying to discover if this is something I can adjust with the proper settings. It reminds me of driving an Audi A3 loaner vs. the S3. The S3 seats had longer lower and side cushions and felt appropriate whereas the A3 seats felt like they were meant for a 14-year-old child.
- The transmission is occasionally jerky when pulling off. Otherwise, it's generally imperceptible. It does a decent job in Sport when I want to be more aggressive. It doesn't take forever to downshift like older Benz automatics. Full throttle shifts are a lot quicker as well.
- The engine is OK. When using the paddles and avoiding the kick-down switch it's a bit pokey at low revs. It's not bad, and I recorded a 5.9 second 0-60 dragy time. I'm pretty sure it's quicker than my old '12 C300 with a tune.
- The car is very quiet around town and on the highway. This is the biggest benefit of the low drag coefficient on the C118 chassis and is likely its best quality.
It's evident Mercedes, and other manufacturers, are working to find ways to survive and make a margin. Mercedes got the big things right and they have modular components and architectures that can be applied across different chassis and models. This reduces cost but it also reduces that special feeling that should come with a Mercedes. For example, the only thing that really changes on MBUX applications is graphics. They're the same screens in the CLA, E, and future C. The new S-Class will even feature variations of the same (cheap) screens. Tech is great when it's current, and the MBUX platform allows MB to frontload investment and allow for updates and unlockable, chargeable, tech components, but these screens will get old and outdated. If anyone has experience replacing the speedo and radio screens on a W222 S550, you'll also understand the added cost when something goes wrong. Again, margin needs to be made, and customer preferences dictate business decisions, but at what stage do we get to feel a little bit of that old Benz magic again? There's something to be said for sitting down in a timeless cockpit where things work.
Either way, I think next go around we'll look at a C-Class or E-Class lease, or maybe take another look at a CLA35/CLA45. I would've preferred a more basic C300 over this CLA250, but it's not bad. In fact, we should've gone with the Volvo S60 T6 we looked at; it was a lot more car for the same lease money.
Last edited by Vega’s; Dec 10, 2020 at 12:46 AM.
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