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Old Aug 31, 2024 | 08:39 AM
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Well, this is a different type of review 🤔 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8NePkDMP7rA
At about 4:53 in the video, they talk about how heavy the doors are. They say they’re heavier than any other car and feel like they’re made of lead. Does anyone else think the doors are heavy? I’ve test driven the CLE 53 and didn’t notice that. In fact, I thought they were lighter and more manageable than the E53 Coupe.
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Old Aug 31, 2024 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BenzC400
At about 4:53 in the video, they talk about how heavy the doors are. They say they’re heavier than any other car and feel like they’re made of lead. Does anyone else think the doors are heavy? I’ve test driven the CLE 53 and didn’t notice that. In fact, I thought they were lighter and more manageable than the E53 Coupe.
I tested it (not driven it) at the showroom here in Markham, Canada but that was the CLE 300 and the doors indeed is heavier than the C238 coupe my family member have.
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Old Aug 31, 2024 | 04:25 PM
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At about 4:53 in the video, they talk about how heavy the doors are. They say they’re heavier than any other car and feel like they’re made of lead. Does anyone else think the doors are heavy? I’ve test driven the CLE 53 and didn’t notice that. In fact, I thought they were lighter and more manageable than the E53 Coupe.
I did not find them to be too heavy. I didn't even ponder it until I watched the video. I've driven a CLE AMG 53 coupe, twice, and have sat in two others.

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Old Sep 2, 2024 | 02:45 AM
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Door are heavier than most of cars , but they are also propotionally bigger so I dont think its anything too heavy , unless you are 30 kg girl or smth
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 11:12 AM
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Actually surprised MOST 63 elements were made available to an entry level AMG. Graphite Grey Magno isn't even available on the base AMG GT and reserved for the Pro. Now GT wheel options and Sun Yellow are being made available in 2025. Dynamic suspension, wide body, engine mounts, and rear wheel steer are standard. Carbon Steering Wheel and the Edition 1 Magma Grey/Yellow interior options are available. Interior basically looks the S/SL.

Think they were anticipating poor sales for the originally planned 4 CYL - CLE 63 and went all out on the 53. This is the most AMG loaded car you can get starting at 80K CAD. The only esthetic difference coming in the new 63 model would be a different shaped spoiler lip and square exhaust tips.
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by C|C
Actually surprised MOST 63 elements were made available to an entry level AMG. Graphite Grey Magno isn't even available on the base AMG GT and reserved for the Pro. Now GT wheel options and Sun Yellow are being made available in 2025. Dynamic suspension, wide body, engine mounts, and rear wheel steer are standard. Carbon Steering Wheel and the Edition 1 Magma Grey/Yellow interior options are available. Interior basically looks the S/SL.

Think they were anticipating poor sales for the originally planned 4 CYL - CLE 63 and went all out on the 53. This is the most AMG loaded car you can get starting at 80K CAD. The only esthetic difference coming in the new 63 model would be a different shaped spoiler lip and square exhaust tips.
Agree, it is a great value proposition.
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Old Sep 3, 2024 | 12:01 PM
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by C|C
Actually surprised MOST 63 elements were made available to an entry level AMG. Graphite Grey Magno isn't even available on the base AMG GT and reserved for the Pro. Now GT wheel options and Sun Yellow are being made available in 2025. Dynamic suspension, wide body, engine mounts, and rear wheel steer are standard. Carbon Steering Wheel and the Edition 1 Magma Grey/Yellow interior options are available. Interior basically looks the S/SL.

Think they were anticipating poor sales for the originally planned 4 CYL - CLE 63 and went all out on the 53. This is the most AMG loaded car you can get starting at 80K CAD. The only esthetic difference coming in the new 63 model would be a different shaped spoiler lip and square exhaust tips.
I cross shopped this the GT 55 and basically came to same conclusion. The best part is that my wife hates loud cars, so this relatively quiet hybrid six will keep the peace in our house, but provide me with plenty of driving enjoyment. Besides, with the 65k that I saved, I decided to buy a truck to allow for some off road adventures that I used to enjoy with my G-Wagen.

I also cross shopped a Lexus LC500, but moments after starting up that bad boy, my wife rolled her eyes so hard that she almost knocked herself unconscious.
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I cross shopped this the GT 55 and basically came to same conclusion. The best part is that my wife hates loud cars, so this relatively quiet hybrid six will keep the peace in our house, but provide me with plenty of driving enjoyment. Besides, with the 65k that I saved, I decided to buy a truck to allow for some off road adventures that I used to enjoy with my G-Wagen.

I also cross shopped a Lexus LC500, but moments after starting up that bad boy, my wife rolled her eyes so hard that she almost knocked herself unconscious.
Funny. I cross shopped both of those cars and reached the same conclusion you did.
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 05:59 PM
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Door are heavier than most of cars , but they are also propotionally bigger so I dont think its anything too heavy , unless you are 30 kg girl or smth
I'm sure that there's beefy steel beams in there to protect the occupants from side collisions.
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 06:12 PM
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I'm sure that there's beefy steel beams in there to protect the occupants from side collisions.
And don't forget the high belt line. That door is tall, too. I'm not used to having the top part of the door panel be so high that I can't rest my arm on it (and I'm 6 feet tall).

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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 06:30 PM
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And don't forget the high belt line. That door is tall, too. I'm not used to having the top part of the door panel be so high that I can't rest my arm on it (and I'm 6 feet tall).
I can, but I'm 5'7". I guess that if you raise your seat you'll hit your head on the roof...lol.
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Old Sep 4, 2024 | 11:11 PM
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I can, but I'm 5'7". I guess that if you raise your seat you'll hit your head on the roof...lol.
Yeah - I usually sit down pretty low. Overall, I find the car very comfortable.
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Old Sep 5, 2024 | 07:39 AM
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And don't forget the high belt line. That door is tall, too. I'm not used to having the top part of the door panel be so high that I can't rest my arm on it (and I'm 6 feet tall).
I am new to Mercedes and drove an E 450 and CLE 450 cabriolet back to back. I noticed the high dash/hood and belt line right away on the E series that made me feel like I was sitting way down in the vehicle. The driving position felt much better to me on the CLE. My visibility was much better.
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Old Sep 11, 2024 | 06:50 PM
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RBR drive review attained 3.8-sec 0-60. Car & Driver review states "Performance is punchy—we estimate a 3.8-second 60-mph time for the coupe".

However MB lists it on their site as 4.2-sec, heavily downplayed? They might have made the 53 TOO FAST and already smokes the previous gen C63 V8. Now it will be very difficult for AMG to put a V8 into the CLE 63 and improve performance.

The 2024 GT 63 coupe can do 3.2-sec but they can't put that engine in the CLE without destroying their flag ship vehicle. The 2024 GT 55 V8 time is 3.9-sec, but even that's slower than the CLE 53. This is probably why the CLE 63 reveal is taking so long. Any thoughts on a solution to this problem??


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Originally Posted by C|C
RBR drive review attained 3.8-sec 0-60. Car & Driver review states "Performance is punchy—we estimate a 3.8-second 60-mph time for the coupe".

However MB lists it on their site as 4.2-sec, heavily downplayed? They might have made the 53 TOO FAST and already smokes the previous gen C63 V8. Now it will be very difficult for AMG to put a V8 into the CLE 63 and improve performance.

The 2024 GT 63 coupe can do 3.2-sec but they can't put that engine in the CLE without destroying their flag ship vehicle. The 2024 GT 55 V8 time is 3.9-sec, but even that's slower than the CLE 53. This is probably why the CLE 63 reveal is taking so long. Any thoughts on a solution to this problem??
Why do you assume Car and Driver’s estimate is assured? If MB is conservative with the CLE 53, why not with the other models? For example, is the GT 55 actually 4/10s faster than advertised too? It has more hp and lots more tq than the CLE. Hard to imagine it’s slower.
Finally, how are we’re potentially part of the “solution” to a probably non-existent problem in the eyes of MB? Just a few thoughts.
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Why do you assume Car and Driver’s estimate is assured? If MB is conservative with the CLE 53, why not with the other models? For example, is the GT 55 actually 4/10s faster than advertised too? It has more hp and lots more tq than the CLE. Hard to imagine it’s slower.
Finally, how are we’re potentially part of the “solution” to a probably non-existent problem in the eyes of MB? Just a few thoughts.
Fair, only RBR's 3.8-sec has been assured. Hoping owners in this forum can post their 0-60 times? Don't believe MB would downplay vehicles across the board. There's just a marketing strategy problem when a 53 is setting AMG GT Coupe times. As a potential CLE 63 buyer on the sidelines, what are we actually waiting for? The upcoming 2025 CLE 53 has everything the 63 has to offer.
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Old Sep 11, 2024 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by C|C
RBR drive review attained 3.8-sec 0-60. Car & Driver review states "Performance is punchy—we estimate a 3.8-second 60-mph time for the coupe".

However MB lists it on their site as 4.2-sec, heavily downplayed? They might have made the 53 TOO FAST and already smokes the previous gen C63 V8. Now it will be very difficult for AMG to put a V8 into the CLE 63 and improve performance.

The 2024 GT 63 coupe can do 3.2-sec but they can't put that engine in the CLE without destroying their flag ship vehicle. The 2024 GT 55 V8 time is 3.9-sec, but even that's slower than the CLE 53. This is probably why the CLE 63 reveal is taking so long. Any thoughts on a solution to this problem??
Smokes? W205 C63 was clocking 3.8, not sure what you're talking about. CLE with a V8 will pull low 3's if not better. If you are dissecting a difference of one tenth of a second between cars you have alot to learn.

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Smokes? W205 C63 was clocking 3.8, not sure what you're talking about. CLE with a V8 will pull low 3's if not better. If you are dissecting a difference of one tenth of a second between cars you have alot to learn.

The only problem is in your head.
The 2019 C63S Facelift is listed at 3.7-sec with 503hp. I owned one and it never came close to doing that. If you don't know the difference between RWD and 4MATIC off the line, you have alot to learn.

The problem is MB won't build the CLE 63 V8 into the low 3's, or it will kill the AMG GT 63.
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What is more German than a German reviewing a German car that was built by a German in Germany in the German language?
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Actually surprised MOST 63 elements were made available to an entry level AMG. Graphite Grey Magno isn't even available on the base AMG GT and reserved for the Pro. Now GT wheel options and Sun Yellow are being made available in 2025. Dynamic suspension, wide body, engine mounts, and rear wheel steer are standard. Carbon Steering Wheel and the Edition 1 Magma Grey/Yellow interior options are available. Interior basically looks the S/SL.

Think they were anticipating poor sales for the originally planned 4 CYL - CLE 63 and went all out on the 53. This is the most AMG loaded car you can get starting at 80K CAD. The only esthetic difference coming in the new 63 model would be a different shaped spoiler lip and square exhaust tips.
Agree. I call it a 1/2 price 4GTS with more practicality and less noise- and draws less attention. It’s a great package for the price.


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What is more German than a German reviewing a German car that was built by a German in Germany in the German language? https://youtu.be/zfsdwWN2jlw?feature=shared
Nice...Zero to 100kph/62mph in 4.1 sec! I picked up a few words, and I think he really liked it. I believe that he called it a "Dream car".

Oooh, and I loved the drift sequences, I'd like to try that but I don't know where I can go, maybe a big shopping center parking lot at 5am in a Sunday.
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Nice...Zero to 100kph/62mph in 4.1 sec! I picked up a few words, and I think he really liked it. I believe that he called it a "Dream car".

Oooh, and I loved the drift sequences, I'd like to try that but I don't know where I can go, maybe a big shopping center parking lot at 5am in a Sunday.
Yes, it is such a great vehicle : )
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I cross shopped this the GT 55 and basically came to same conclusion. The best part is that my wife hates loud cars, so this relatively quiet hybrid six will keep the peace in our house, but provide me with plenty of driving enjoyment. Besides, with the 65k that I saved, I decided to buy a truck to allow for some off road adventures that I used to enjoy with my G-Wagen.

I also cross shopped a Lexus LC500, but moments after starting up that bad boy, my wife rolled her eyes so hard that she almost knocked herself unconscious.
I was interested in the LC500 and appreciated the sound and the looks ,but RWD on a daily driver in Canada is not ideal and the storage (rear seats and trunk ) is very limited. The answer to all of this is the CLE 53 !
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