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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 05:20 PM
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I agree that it is silly that a car this expensive needs a physical key. Just seems like old tech at this point. Tesla got this right.
I've never had a car with a digital key, so I guess I don't know the full benefits of it, but, I still need to carry my house key, so it's really not an issue to carry the car key with my house key. You don't have to pull the key out of your pocket, it's got Keyless GO, and if you leave the car and leave the car unlocked for even a short amount of time, you get a notification that the car is unlocked and you can lock it from the app if you want. And on another note, I left my phone on the wireless charger and when I went to leave the car it wouldn't let me leave without getting my phone (if I wanted it)... So I guess without ever having a digital key, this is working fine for me...
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DV8Cellars
I've never had a car with a digital key, so I guess I don't know the full benefits of it, but, I still need to carry my house key, so it's really not an issue to carry the car key with my house key. You don't have to pull the key out of your pocket, it's got Keyless GO, and if you leave the car and leave the car unlocked for even a short amount of time, you get a notification that the car is unlocked and you can lock it from the app if you want. And on another note, I left my phone on the wireless charger and when I went to leave the car it wouldn't let me leave without getting my phone (if I wanted it)... So I guess without ever having a digital key, this is working fine for me...
Sometimes new technology is just for the sake of technology, but digital keys do have their benefits.
  1. A keyring is a bunch of additional clutter to carry around, so having to only carry the phone is very convenient.
  2. If you lose your physical keys they are gone, unless you have something like an AirTag on it and manage to find them in time. Replacing a key fob runs around $1000 these days.
  3. Anybody in possession of a physical key can use it if they know where it goes. Digital keys can require biometric authentication on the device and if you lose the device you can remotely deactivate the keys to prevent anybody from gaining access.
  4. You can easily share digital keys to give access to guests in your home, or lend your car to somebody w/o having to hand out physical keys that they could lose. You just send them a digital key that's valid for a certain amount of time and after that they can't use it anymore.
  5. You can track and manage who enters your home etc. and during which times they can. For example if you have a maid, you can control that their key only works on the days they are scheduled to clean your house.
Digital keys are great. I increasingly even choose to stay at hotels with digital keys, too, so I can check in the day before and then walk straight to the room skipping the lines at the front desk. I don't mind having to still carry my car fob for now, because I don't daily drive, so it stays at home most of the time and when I do carry it, it's small and light by itself that it doesn't bother me in my pocket. I often don't even carry a wallet anymore, either, because I can do most of my daily errands on foot, so all I need to carry is my phone which has my credit cards on it to make contactless payments. Even my driver's license is on my phone now, however, because it's still a pilot in my state, law enforcement requires that we continue to carry our physical license. The digital one can be used at select airport terminals, though. Just tap the phone at the security checkpoint and it's all automated from there. So I've downsized my wallet to a minimalist wallet from The Ridge that isn't much larger than the stack of cards I carry when I think I need them and it fits in my front pocket, so I don't have to take it out to not be uncomfortable sitting on a traditional bifold.

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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Sometimes new technology is just for the sake of technology, but digital keys do have their benefits.
  1. A keyring is a bunch of additional clutter to carry around, so having to only carry the phone is very convenient.
  2. If you lose your physical keys they are gone, unless you have something like an AirTag on it and manage to find them in time. Replacing a key fob runs around $1000 these days.
  3. Anybody in possession of a physical key can use it if they know where it goes. Digital keys can require biometric authentication on the device and if you lose the device you can remotely deactivate the keys to prevent anybody from gaining access.
  4. You can easily share digital keys to give access to guests in your home, or lend your car to somebody w/o having to hand out physical keys that they could lose. You just send them a digital key that's valid for a certain amount of time and after that they can't use it anymore.
  5. You can track and manage who enters your home etc. and during which times they can. For example if you have a maid, you can control that their key only works on the days they are scheduled to clean your house.
Digital keys are great. I increasingly even choose to stay at hotels with digital keys, too, so I can check in the day before and then walk straight to the room skipping the lines at the front desk. I don't mind having to still carry my car fob for now, because I don't daily drive, so it stays at home most of the time and when I do carry it, it's small and light by itself that it doesn't bother me in my pocket. I often don't even carry a wallet anymore, either, because I can do most of my daily errands on foot, so all I need to carry is my phone which has my credit cards on it to make contactless payments. Even my driver's license is on my phone now, however, because it's still a pilot in my state, law enforcement requires that we continue to carry our physical license. The digital one can be used at select airport terminals, though. Just tap the phone at the security checkpoint and it's all automated from there. So I've downsized my wallet to a minimalist wallet from The Ridge that isn't much larger than the stack of cards I carry when I think I need them and it fits in my front pocket, so I don't have to take it out to not be uncomfortable sitting on a traditional bifold.
Understood, I would be nice to have, but I don't, so I'll have to live with it I guess. Could be worse...
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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 04:52 AM
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It seems like all CLE models manufactured starting in April 2024 are getting a Digital Vehicle Key. MB just updated the manual:
https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manu...4-04-c236-mbux
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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 09:10 AM
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It seems like all CLE models manufactured starting in April 2024 are getting a Digital Vehicle Key. MB just updated the manual:
https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manu...4-04-c236-mbux
And how do you know what the build date is?
My car is a MY2025, it has to have been built after April 2024, shouldn't it? I didn't get an email about it nor do I see anything on the app.
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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DV8Cellars
And how do you know what the build date is?
My car is a MY2025, it has to have been built after April 2024, shouldn't it? I didn't get an email about it nor do I see anything on the app.
OK, so on my door tag it says 9/24, so I assume my car was built after April 2024...
In the digital owners manual it mentions a digital key for vehicles built after April 2024. The manual says for requirements, You have received an email from Mercedes Me Connect, and, if you have selected the Digital Vehicle Key.
What does "you have selected the Digital Vehicle Key" mean? I don't see digital key as an option on the MBUSA website when building the car on the configurator and I don't see digital key listed, so how do I get a digital key, is it a software update?
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by adamCLE
It seems like all CLE models manufactured starting in April 2024 are getting a Digital Vehicle Key. MB just updated the manual:
https://www.mbusa.com/en/owners/manu...4-04-c236-mbux
So I emailed Mercedes Me. The first reply was from someone who didn't know and just sent me instructions on how to set up the digital key, which included clicking on the Digital Vehicle Key "tile" in the app. I replied saying I didn't have that "tile" on my app. The next reply was "discovered that the necessary coding for this service is not available for your vehicle. I understand the statement on the owner's manual but the manual is not specified for each model of vehicle that all the functions mentioned in the manual may not apply to his specific model." Which doesn't make alot of sense since it's in the CLE manual. So what are they saying, it's on the CLE300 or CLE450 and not the CLE53?
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DV8Cellars
So I emailed Mercedes Me. The first reply was from someone who didn't know and just sent me instructions on how to set up the digital key, which included clicking on the Digital Vehicle Key "tile" in the app. I replied saying I didn't have that "tile" on my app. The next reply was "discovered that the necessary coding for this service is not available for your vehicle. I understand the statement on the owner's manual but the manual is not specified for each model of vehicle that all the functions mentioned in the manual may not apply to his specific model." Which doesn't make alot of sense since it's in the CLE manual. So what are they saying, it's on the CLE300 or CLE450 and not the CLE53?
Ya that doesn't make sense at all.... Especially if they are the same model year.
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Originally Posted by DV8Cellars
So I emailed Mercedes Me. The first reply was from someone who didn't know and just sent me instructions on how to set up the digital key, which included clicking on the Digital Vehicle Key "tile" in the app. I replied saying I didn't have that "tile" on my app. The next reply was "discovered that the necessary coding for this service is not available for your vehicle. I understand the statement on the owner's manual but the manual is not specified for each model of vehicle that all the functions mentioned in the manual may not apply to his specific model." Which doesn't make alot of sense since it's in the CLE manual. So what are they saying, it's on the CLE300 or CLE450 and not the CLE53?
A bit of an unfortunate wording, but what they were getting at is that many features described in the owner's manual depend on how the vehicle was configured when ordered. So that's what they meant. It's not specific to a given model. For example if you order your car w/o Driving Assistance then the whole Driving Assistance chapter in the owner's manual does not apply to your specific vehicle. The Digital Key is an optional feature as well, but in the USA at least MBUSA has decided to include it in the basis options where available, but technically it's still an optional feature.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
A bit of an unfortunate wording, but what they were getting at is that many features described in the owner's manual depend on how the vehicle was configured when ordered. So that's what they meant. It's not specific to a given model. For example if you order your car w/o Driving Assistance then the whole Driving Assistance chapter in the owner's manual does not apply to your specific vehicle. The Digital Key is an optional feature as well, but in the USA at least MBUSA has decided to include it in the basis options where available, but technically it's still an optional feature.
I guess use the digital in car manual instead, it is easier to navigate and search in anyways and it is interactive.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
A bit of an unfortunate wording, but what they were getting at is that many features described in the owner's manual depend on how the vehicle was configured when ordered. So that's what they meant. It's not specific to a given model. For example if you order your car w/o Driving Assistance then the whole Driving Assistance chapter in the owner's manual does not apply to your specific vehicle. The Digital Key is an optional feature as well, but in the USA at least MBUSA has decided to include it in the basis options where available, but technically it's still an optional feature.
I don't see it as an option on the MBUSA configurator. Nor do I see it mentioned as standard equipment. It's just not mentioned at all, unless I'm missing something.
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I don't see it as an option on the MBUSA configurator. Nor do I see it mentioned as standard equipment. It's just not mentioned at all, unless I'm missing something.
Which is in line with the current CLEs not having it, no? If it indeed gets added to the CLE later in the production cycle then the configurator will eventually get updated. The configurator is always behind. Get a hold of the DOG for the latest standard equipment and optional equipment.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Which is in line with the current CLEs not having it, no? If it indeed gets added to the CLE later in the production cycle then the configurator will eventually get updated. The configurator is always behind. Get a hold of the DOG for the latest standard equipment and optional equipment.
I wonder if this (Digital Key) and a couple other things can be added, after the fact, as a "digital extra" or something like that?
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Originally Posted by DV8Cellars
I wonder if this (Digital Key) and a couple other things can be added, after the fact, as a "digital extra" or something like that?
If it has the hardware to make it work installed already, similar like Porsche's "Preparation for..." packages/options, perhaps?
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I wonder if this (Digital Key) and a couple other things can be added, after the fact, as a "digital extra" or something like that?
Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
If it has the hardware to make it work installed already, similar like Porsche's "Preparation for..." packages/options, perhaps?
Correct. Specifically as far as I know the 206 and 236 are missing the UWB radio hardware. The Digital Key uses Ultra-wideband (UWB). That's also why it needs an iPhone 11 or newer, because the older iPhone hardware is missing UWB support, and why it's not offered on Android as there are practically no Android phones aside from the Pixel and some high-end Samsung models that support UWB. UWB can precisely determine the location of two objects relative to each other and whether they are moving away or towards each other. This is key to the Digital Key experience as it can determine where exactly the phone is relative to the door and prevent relay attacks. The complication with UWB is that it is illegal in certain countries, so in those countries the Digital Key can't be offered at all. iPhones for example automatically turn off the UWB radio if you travel to any of those countries. It's legal in the USA, so not sure why MB didn't include the necessary hardware upfront, but the 206 came out quite a while ago and the 236 is based on it. The first model with Digital Key support was the 214, so the hardware has to trickle down first.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Correct. Specifically as far as I know the 206 and 236 are missing the UWB radio hardware. The Digital Key uses Ultra-wideband (UWB). That's also why it needs an iPhone 11 or newer, because the older iPhone hardware is missing UWB support, and why it's not offered on Android as there are practically no Android phones aside from the Pixel and some high-end Samsung models that support UWB. UWB can precisely determine the location of two objects relative to each other and whether they are moving away or towards each other. This is key to the Digital Key experience as it can determine where exactly the phone is relative to the door and prevent relay attacks. The complication with UWB is that it is illegal in certain countries, so in those countries the Digital Key can't be offered at all. iPhones for example automatically turn off the UWB radio if you travel to any of those countries. It's legal in the USA, so not sure why MB didn't include the necessary hardware upfront, but the 206 came out quite a while ago and the 236 is based on it. The first model with Digital Key support was the 214, so the hardware has to trickle down first.
Well, if we don't have the hardware in the car then it appears that we won't be getting a digital key.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Correct. Specifically as far as I know the 206 and 236 are missing the UWB radio hardware. The Digital Key uses Ultra-wideband (UWB). That's also why it needs an iPhone 11 or newer, because the older iPhone hardware is missing UWB support, and why it's not offered on Android as there are practically no Android phones aside from the Pixel and some high-end Samsung models that support UWB. UWB can precisely determine the location of two objects relative to each other and whether they are moving away or towards each other. This is key to the Digital Key experience as it can determine where exactly the phone is relative to the door and prevent relay attacks. The complication with UWB is that it is illegal in certain countries, so in those countries the Digital Key can't be offered at all. iPhones for example automatically turn off the UWB radio if you travel to any of those countries. It's legal in the USA, so not sure why MB didn't include the necessary hardware upfront, but the 206 came out quite a while ago and the 236 is based on it. The first model with Digital Key support was the 214, so the hardware has to trickle down first.
I see, sadly does that mean the CLE 53 really don't have the hardware? Perhaps 2026 model year will have it?
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I see, sadly does that mean the CLE 53 really don't have the hardware? Perhaps 2026 model year will have it?
You'll have to look at the build sheet I guess. As far as I can see, in Europe the Digital Key preparation is part of the Premium package and the Premium package is standard on the 53. So effectively the Digital Key is standard in Europe. At least technically it's already available. Why it's not available on US-spec vehicles is a mystery.
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Originally Posted by superswiss
You'll have to look at the build sheet I guess. As far as I can see, in Europe the Digital Key preparation is part of the Premium package and the Premium package is standard on the 53. So effectively the Digital Key is standard in Europe. At least technically it's already available. Why it's not available on US-spec vehicles is a mystery.
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