So... Who's tired of buying tires??
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So... Who's tired of buying tires??
I know I am, or at least I was. I didn't want you all to think that I had left you high and dry. No, I've been hard at work coming up with some new products, and here they are!!!
This is the new 'Squeak Free' rear camber bushing:
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/members/p1-performance-albums-p1-performance-parts-shop-car-picture14548-new-rear-design.jpg)
This is the new Front Camber Kit:
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/members/p1-performance-albums-p1-performance-parts-shop-car-picture14549-front-kit-1.jpg)
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/members/p1-performance-albums-p1-performance-parts-shop-car-picture14550-front-kit-2.jpg)
These were made from Delrin and the sleeves are mild steel. It is basically an eccentric front bushing.
Yes they look cool, but the proof is in the pudding. Please let me know your thoughts.
This is the new 'Squeak Free' rear camber bushing:
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/members/p1-performance-albums-p1-performance-parts-shop-car-picture14548-new-rear-design.jpg)
This is the new Front Camber Kit:
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/members/p1-performance-albums-p1-performance-parts-shop-car-picture14549-front-kit-1.jpg)
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/members/p1-performance-albums-p1-performance-parts-shop-car-picture14550-front-kit-2.jpg)
These were made from Delrin and the sleeves are mild steel. It is basically an eccentric front bushing.
Yes they look cool, but the proof is in the pudding. Please let me know your thoughts.
Last edited by Ghostrider; 09-28-2010 at 07:20 PM. Reason: Grammer
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Rear Kit Only Alignment
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@ What size are your rims and tires and what number spring pad are you using.
Can these work in conjunction with my front K-macs? My front K-macs are maxed out and the benefit is that I'm not going through tires every 4-6 months. Though K-macs greatly improved my front camber @my ride height there is still little room for improvement. The only way I can have zero negative camber is if I raise my car and I'm not trying to do that or have my frame realigned $$$$$.
Can these work in conjunction with my front K-macs? My front K-macs are maxed out and the benefit is that I'm not going through tires every 4-6 months. Though K-macs greatly improved my front camber @my ride height there is still little room for improvement. The only way I can have zero negative camber is if I raise my car and I'm not trying to do that or have my frame realigned $$$$$.
Front Camber MB Standard -1.16' to -0.36' Degrees
Left -3.06' ~ -2.41' (Before ~ After)
Right -3.48' ~ -2.54' (Before ~ After)
Front Caster MB Standard 4.30' ~ 5.30' Degrees
Left 7.01' ~ 5.54' (Before ~ After)
Right 6.42' ~ 5.28' (Before ~ After)
Front Toe MB Standard 1.4mm ~ 3.3mm
Left 3.8mm ~ 2.4mm (Before ~ After)
Right 2.1mm ~ 2.4mm (Before ~ After)
Rear Camber MB Standard -1.00' ~ 0.00' Degrees
Left -3.42' ~ -1.30' (Before ~ After)
Right -4.15' ~ -0.46' (Before ~ After)
Rear Toe MB Standard 2.4mm ~ 3.8mm
Left 1.8mm ~ 1.5mm (Before ~ After)
Right 6.5mm ~ -0.2mm (Before ~ After)
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H&R Sports Cup Kit (1.9" Front Drop / 1.6" Rear Drop)
Front Specifications
* ET38
* #3 13mm Spring Pad
* 8.5J 225/30ZR20” Pirelli PZero Nero
* 20" WEDS Kranze Bazeria
Rear Specifications
* ET32 3mm Spacer = ET29
* #1 5mm Spring Pad
* 10J 255/30ZR20” Pirelli PZero Nero
* 20" WEDS Kranze Bazeria
Left -3.06' ~ -2.41' (Before ~ After)
Right -3.48' ~ -2.54' (Before ~ After)
Front Caster MB Standard 4.30' ~ 5.30' Degrees
Left 7.01' ~ 5.54' (Before ~ After)
Right 6.42' ~ 5.28' (Before ~ After)
Front Toe MB Standard 1.4mm ~ 3.3mm
Left 3.8mm ~ 2.4mm (Before ~ After)
Right 2.1mm ~ 2.4mm (Before ~ After)
Rear Camber MB Standard -1.00' ~ 0.00' Degrees
Left -3.42' ~ -1.30' (Before ~ After)
Right -4.15' ~ -0.46' (Before ~ After)
Rear Toe MB Standard 2.4mm ~ 3.8mm
Left 1.8mm ~ 1.5mm (Before ~ After)
Right 6.5mm ~ -0.2mm (Before ~ After)
=======================================
H&R Sports Cup Kit (1.9" Front Drop / 1.6" Rear Drop)
Front Specifications
* ET38
* #3 13mm Spring Pad
* 8.5J 225/30ZR20” Pirelli PZero Nero
* 20" WEDS Kranze Bazeria
Rear Specifications
* ET32 3mm Spacer = ET29
* #1 5mm Spring Pad
* 10J 255/30ZR20” Pirelli PZero Nero
* 20" WEDS Kranze Bazeria
Last edited by Williams707; 09-28-2010 at 07:45 PM.
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@ What size are your rims and tires and what number spring pad are you using.
Can these work in conjunction with my front K-macs? My front K-macs are maxed out and the benefit is that I'm not going through tires every 4-6 months. Though K-macs greatly improved my front camber @my ride height there is still little room for improvement. The only way I can have zero negative camber is if I raise my car and I'm not trying to do that or have my frame realigned $$$$$.
Can these work in conjunction with my front K-macs? My front K-macs are maxed out and the benefit is that I'm not going through tires every 4-6 months. Though K-macs greatly improved my front camber @my ride height there is still little room for improvement. The only way I can have zero negative camber is if I raise my car and I'm not trying to do that or have my frame realigned $$$$$.
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Well, there is my other idea of modifying the actual lower control arm. Basically we would shorten each of the arms that attach to the frame, that way you could re-use the K-Macs if you wanted to.
This is more than likely what the final product will be.
This is more than likely what the final product will be.
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Which means, push the top of the rear wheels out and you get more positive camber. So, by bringing the bottom of the front wheels in you get more positive camber.
Got it??
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Easy!! The rear camber is controlled by the arm at the top of the rear tire and the front camber is controlled by the lower control arm.
Which means, push the top of the rear wheels out and you get more positive camber. So, by bringing the bottom of the front wheels in you get more positive camber.
Got it??
Which means, push the top of the rear wheels out and you get more positive camber. So, by bringing the bottom of the front wheels in you get more positive camber.
Got it??
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Any safety concerns with going with a shorter lower control arm and/or just shortening one?
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The data confirms 1mm = .1* of camber in either direction so its easy to calculate.
The factory arms are just two stamped pieces of steel welded together, so these new ones would actually be stronger.
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Honestly, not that much. Probably around $250, but there would be an additional core charge. Although we would have to work something out for you, being in the Far East and all.
The data confirms 1mm = .1* of camber in either direction so its easy to calculate.
The factory arms are just two stamped pieces of steel welded together, so these new ones would actually be stronger.
The data confirms 1mm = .1* of camber in either direction so its easy to calculate.
The factory arms are just two stamped pieces of steel welded together, so these new ones would actually be stronger.
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$250 each? Are we talking about buying two new/used lower control arms and modifying it or a whole new build up? Send me your proposal/white paper, pictures and schematics would be a plus too. Seeing that I drive real hard, this would be something that I would seriously have to think about. Hate to have it snap on me while driving.
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Far East?![Confused](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
You lost me dog.
$250 each? Are we talking about buying two new/used lower control arms and modifying it or a whole new build up? Send me your proposal/white paper, pictures and schematics would be a plus too. Seeing that I drive real hard, this would be something that I would seriously have to think about. Hate to have it snap on me while driving.![EEK!](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif)
![Confused](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
![rolf](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/rofl.gif)
$250 each? Are we talking about buying two new/used lower control arms and modifying it or a whole new build up? Send me your proposal/white paper, pictures and schematics would be a plus too. Seeing that I drive real hard, this would be something that I would seriously have to think about. Hate to have it snap on me while driving.
![EEK!](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif)
You can't drive your car any harder than I drive mine! So you should already know these will be on my car before I even think about letting my boys roll on them!!
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Heck No!!! $250 total and that would be on the high end. We are talking about modifying a pair of moderately used control arm. I will once I have it all put together.
You can't drive your car any harder than I drive mine! So you should already know these will be on my car before I even think about letting my boys roll on them!!
You can't drive your car any harder than I drive mine! So you should already know these will be on my car before I even think about letting my boys roll on them!!
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***New Arms***
So I was able to get the my existing arms modified and reinstalled. Here are some pictures of them:
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/members/p1-performance-albums-p1-performance-parts-shop-car-picture14773-lcarms1.jpg)
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/members/p1-performance-albums-p1-performance-parts-shop-car-picture14774-lcarms2-closeup.jpg)
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/members/p1-performance-albums-p1-performance-parts-shop-car-picture14773-lcarms1.jpg)
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/members/p1-performance-albums-p1-performance-parts-shop-car-picture14774-lcarms2-closeup.jpg)
![](https://mbworld.org/forums/members/p1-performance-albums-p1-performance-parts-shop-car-picture14775-lcarms3.jpg)
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Ok, I want one!!!! I'm tired of going through tires every 6 months. I have the K-Macs which before I got them I was going through tires every 4 months. Now after installing the K-Macs I'm up to 6 months. Need something a little bit more which will at least extend my tire life to 1 year or so.
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Last edited by Williams707; 01-13-2011 at 02:15 AM.
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Ok, I want one!!!! I'm tired of going through tires every 6 months. I have the K-Macs which before I got them I was going through tires every 4 months. Now after installing the K-Macs I'm up to 6 months. Need something a little bit more which will at least extend my tire life to 1 year or so.
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