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Old 07-18-2003 | 01:17 PM
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E430 vs. CLK430

I'm curious whether the E430 and CLK430 have the same engine.

Other than the different exterior styling are these really the same car or are we talking apple and oranges here?

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Old 07-18-2003 | 01:38 PM
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Re: E430 vs. CLK430

Originally posted by khans
I'm curious whether the E430 and CLK430 have the same engine.

Other than the different exterior styling are these really the same car or are we talking apple and oranges here?

thanks.
they do technically have the same engine, and the CLKs (W208) interior & exterior design is borrowed from that of the E-Class (W210).... however, the chassis/body is that from the C-Class (W202)

therefore, if C class is apple, and E-class is orange, then its a split between the two... a crispy apple with an orange peel on the outside?

does this answer your question?
Old 07-18-2003 | 02:08 PM
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The front ends are so similar, I know the hood is different.......but are the lights and front bumper the same?
Old 07-18-2003 | 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by TNH
The front ends are so similar, I know the hood is different.......but are the lights and front bumper the same?
the lights are different... they LOOK the same, but they are slightly different... different enough to where you won't be able to install W210 lights onto a W208, and vise versa
Old 07-18-2003 | 02:48 PM
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The only engine difference is the airbox.......the e430 doesn't have the twin airfilter setup so it only has 267-8 hp vs the clk's 275 stock. Every other part of the engine is the same I think.

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Since we're talking about the front end, everything is different including the bumper, lights, hood, grill, etc...They are not swapable with the E class W210. I know because I asked and tried the headlight and it didn't fit. I asked about the rest and all of the junkyards and my MB mechanic agreed/verified that they are not swapable...
Old 07-18-2003 | 06:34 PM
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CLK430 owners

if you had to do it all over again would you buy a E430 instead?

My answer to that question is hell no! :-)

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Old 07-18-2003 | 06:37 PM
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I do not like the 210. I do like the 211, but I still prefer my 208 over any of them (even the 209).
Old 07-18-2003 | 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by khans
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if you had to do it all over again would you buy a E430 instead?

My answer to that question is hell no! :-)

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Where in the h*ll did this come from !!! You don't want to turn this friendly chat into a pissing contest do you ??? It's Mercedes Benz, we're all in the same family...
Old 07-19-2003 | 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by khans
CLK430 owners

if you had to do it all over again would you buy a E430 instead?

My answer to that question is hell no! :-)

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the answer to this question will obviously vary depending on the needs of the driver/owner...

i don't have kids, rarely travel with more than 1 passenger, so I don't need a sedan. But, for some, 4 doors are better than 2.

I'm sure when I have kids, I'll prefer a 4 door sedan over a coupe. Although, the only MB sedans I'd choose would be either the W211 or W220 with a minimum 5.0 litre V8....
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Originally posted by mmgrad
the answer to this question will obviously vary depending on the needs of the driver/owner...

i don't have kids, rarely travel with more than 1 passenger, so I don't need a sedan. But, for some, 4 doors are better than 2.

I'm sure when I have kids, I'll prefer a 4 door sedan over a coupe. Although, the only MB sedans I'd choose would be either the W211 or W220 with a minimum 5.0 litre V8....
I agree with mmgrad. I think both the coupe and sedan are both beautiful cars. At the moment I don't have kids so this is my opportunity to drive a sporty coupe. When that changes I would be more than happy with a luxurious W210 or any other Mercedes 4 door for that matter.
Old 07-20-2003 | 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by CiLKY
The only engine difference is the airbox.......the e430 doesn't have the twin airfilter setup so it only has 267-8 hp vs the clk's 275 stock. Every other part of the engine is the same I think.

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hmm..i just looked at my friends 99 e430 manual and it says 275hp not 268hp, what's wrong????
Old 07-20-2003 | 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by WHITEMYST
hmm..i just looked at my friends 99 e430 manual and it says 275hp not 268hp, what's wrong????
There nothing wrong with that spec... wouldn't you rather have more HP or less?

In any case, there was an E-class (E420) back in 1995 that did have 268 hp / 295 lb-ft... the rest of the E430s/430s from 1997 to 2002 all have 275 hp/295 lb-ft
Old 07-20-2003 | 11:54 PM
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i'm not saying there's something wrong, it's just that some people don't know the exact HPs and they talk (ie. first couple of replies about the 2 air filters instead of e430 one air filter) so i just wanted to confirm it, that the book is right not the guy that replied on the first page with incorrect HP #
Old 07-21-2003 | 12:03 PM
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WhiteMyst.........numers came directly from a 2000 ml-430 vs a 99 clk-430 and from a local dealer's word of mouth as well. I dunno.....it isn't a huge diff not matter how you look at it.
Old 07-21-2003 | 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by CiLKY
WhiteMyst.........numers came directly from a 2000 ml-430 vs a 99 clk-430 and from a local dealer's word of mouth as well. I dunno.....it isn't a huge diff not matter how you look at it.
Ahhh... thats why... the ML's 4.3 engine is different from the others... whereas, i think the E/S/CLK 430 all have the same engine....
Old 07-21-2003 | 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by mmgrad
Ahhh... thats why... the ML's 4.3 engine is different from the others... whereas, i think the E/S/CLK 430 all have the same engine....
the E, S and the CLK all has the same engine 275hp and 295 tq.

the ML has the same engine with 268hp and 288 tq. I think it might be caused by exhaust difference for the suv.
Old 07-21-2003 | 08:30 PM
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that explains everything..thanks

now getting back to original post...anybody dyno tested any of the above mentioned exhaust upgrades??? if so, what were the ####???
Old 07-21-2003 | 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by WHITEMYST
that explains everything..thanks

now getting back to original post...anybody dyno tested any of the above mentioned exhaust upgrades??? if so, what were the ####???


no one was talking about exhaust upgrades??? just comparing engines between E430 & CLK430... which led to HP & air filter differences

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Old 07-22-2003 | 11:29 AM
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I was comparing my clk 430 engine to that of the s 430 and the S 430 engine appears to be larger. It takes up more space under the hood, any conclusions about that?
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Originally posted by J Lucas
I was comparing my clk 430 engine to that of the s 430 and the S 430 engine appears to be larger. It takes up more space under the hood, any conclusions about that?
thats interesting? do you have a picture? could it just be the engine cover?

According to MB, they should have the same engine (size & spec):

2000 S430
-Engine 4,266-cc SOHC 24-valve V-8, high pressure die-cast alloy -cylinder block alloy heads.
-Net power 275 hp @ 5,750 rpm
-Net torque 295 lb-ft @ 3,000-4,400 rpm
-Compression ratio 10.0:1

2000 CLK430
-Engine 4,266-cc SOHC 24-valveV-8, high-pressure die-cast alloy cylinder block, alloy heads.
-Net power 275 hp @ 5,750 rpm
-Net torque 295 lb-ft @ 3,000-4,400 rpm
-Compression ratio 10.0:1
Old 07-22-2003 | 01:14 PM
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That is interesting indeed. The specs. are identical as you have listed them. I am curious as to possibly the design of the engine or like you said, the engine cover that would make it to appear larger...
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Yeah thats what I said, Actually my neighbor came over bragging about his new S 430 engine and since im shaved he thought i had a 320. So I opened my hood and he was like whats that, im like a v8 , he was like not the same V8 in my car. I was like yes, they are the same just like the E430. SO he said follow me to my car and to my surprise, his engine definitely, looks bigger, I thought it was the CAP also but the engine looks like it takes up all the space under the cap, as if its made to fit. It Definitely looks bigger.

I will try and get some pics but don't wait on me...
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Originally posted by J Lucas
I will try and get some pics but don't wait on me...
Tell your neighbor, that they may have just enlarged their engine cover to inflate their ego...

Here is a picture of a 2003 S430 Engine:
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Old 07-22-2003 | 05:48 PM
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And here is a picture of a 2000 CLK430 Engine:
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