E430 vs. CLK430
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E430 vs. CLK430
I'm curious whether the E430 and CLK430 have the same engine.
Other than the different exterior styling are these really the same car or are we talking apple and oranges here?
thanks.
Other than the different exterior styling are these really the same car or are we talking apple and oranges here?
thanks.
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Re: E430 vs. CLK430
Originally posted by khans
I'm curious whether the E430 and CLK430 have the same engine.
Other than the different exterior styling are these really the same car or are we talking apple and oranges here?
thanks.
I'm curious whether the E430 and CLK430 have the same engine.
Other than the different exterior styling are these really the same car or are we talking apple and oranges here?
thanks.
therefore, if C class is apple, and E-class is orange, then its a split between the two... a crispy apple with an orange peel on the outside?
does this answer your question?
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Originally posted by TNH
The front ends are so similar, I know the hood is different.......but are the lights and front bumper the same?
The front ends are so similar, I know the hood is different.......but are the lights and front bumper the same?
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The only engine difference is the airbox.......the e430 doesn't have the twin airfilter setup so it only has 267-8 hp vs the clk's 275 stock. Every other part of the engine is the same I think.
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Since we're talking about the front end, everything is different including the bumper, lights, hood, grill, etc...They are not swapable with the E class W210. I know because I asked and tried the headlight and it didn't fit. I asked about the rest and all of the junkyards and my MB mechanic agreed/verified that they are not swapable...
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Originally posted by khans
CLK430 owners
if you had to do it all over again would you buy a E430 instead?
My answer to that question is hell no! :-)
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CLK430 owners
if you had to do it all over again would you buy a E430 instead?
My answer to that question is hell no! :-)
-shehryar
!!! You don't want to turn this friendly chat into a pissing contest do you 
??? It's Mercedes Benz, we're all in the same family...
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Originally posted by khans
CLK430 owners
if you had to do it all over again would you buy a E430 instead?
My answer to that question is hell no! :-)
-shehryar
CLK430 owners
if you had to do it all over again would you buy a E430 instead?
My answer to that question is hell no! :-)
-shehryar
i don't have kids, rarely travel with more than 1 passenger, so I don't need a sedan. But, for some, 4 doors are better than 2.
I'm sure when I have kids, I'll prefer a 4 door sedan over a coupe. Although, the only MB sedans I'd choose would be either the W211 or W220 with a minimum 5.0 litre V8....
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Originally posted by mmgrad
the answer to this question will obviously vary depending on the needs of the driver/owner...
i don't have kids, rarely travel with more than 1 passenger, so I don't need a sedan. But, for some, 4 doors are better than 2.
I'm sure when I have kids, I'll prefer a 4 door sedan over a coupe. Although, the only MB sedans I'd choose would be either the W211 or W220 with a minimum 5.0 litre V8....
the answer to this question will obviously vary depending on the needs of the driver/owner...
i don't have kids, rarely travel with more than 1 passenger, so I don't need a sedan. But, for some, 4 doors are better than 2.
I'm sure when I have kids, I'll prefer a 4 door sedan over a coupe. Although, the only MB sedans I'd choose would be either the W211 or W220 with a minimum 5.0 litre V8....
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Originally posted by CiLKY
The only engine difference is the airbox.......the e430 doesn't have the twin airfilter setup so it only has 267-8 hp vs the clk's 275 stock. Every other part of the engine is the same I think.
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The only engine difference is the airbox.......the e430 doesn't have the twin airfilter setup so it only has 267-8 hp vs the clk's 275 stock. Every other part of the engine is the same I think.
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Originally posted by WHITEMYST
hmm..i just looked at my friends 99 e430 manual and it says 275hp not 268hp, what's wrong????
hmm..i just looked at my friends 99 e430 manual and it says 275hp not 268hp, what's wrong????
In any case, there was an E-class (E420) back in 1995 that did have 268 hp / 295 lb-ft... the rest of the E430s/430s from 1997 to 2002 all have 275 hp/295 lb-ft
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i'm not saying there's something wrong, it's just that some people don't know the exact HPs and they talk (ie. first couple of replies about the 2 air filters instead of e430 one air filter) so i just wanted to confirm it, that the book is right not the guy that replied on the first page with incorrect HP #
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WhiteMyst.........numers came directly from a 2000 ml-430 vs a 99 clk-430 and from a local dealer's word of mouth as well. I dunno.....it isn't a huge diff not matter how you look at it.
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Originally posted by CiLKY
WhiteMyst.........numers came directly from a 2000 ml-430 vs a 99 clk-430 and from a local dealer's word of mouth as well. I dunno.....it isn't a huge diff not matter how you look at it.
WhiteMyst.........numers came directly from a 2000 ml-430 vs a 99 clk-430 and from a local dealer's word of mouth as well. I dunno.....it isn't a huge diff not matter how you look at it.
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Originally posted by mmgrad
Ahhh... thats why... the ML's 4.3 engine is different from the others... whereas, i think the E/S/CLK 430 all have the same engine....
Ahhh... thats why... the ML's 4.3 engine is different from the others... whereas, i think the E/S/CLK 430 all have the same engine....
the ML has the same engine with 268hp and 288 tq. I think it might be caused by exhaust difference for the suv.
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Originally posted by WHITEMYST
that explains everything..thanks
now getting back to original post...anybody dyno tested any of the above mentioned exhaust upgrades??? if so, what were the ####???
that explains everything..thanks
now getting back to original post...anybody dyno tested any of the above mentioned exhaust upgrades??? if so, what were the ####???
no one was talking about exhaust upgrades??? just comparing engines between E430 & CLK430... which led to HP & air filter differences
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Originally posted by J Lucas
I was comparing my clk 430 engine to that of the s 430 and the S 430 engine appears to be larger. It takes up more space under the hood, any conclusions about that?
I was comparing my clk 430 engine to that of the s 430 and the S 430 engine appears to be larger. It takes up more space under the hood, any conclusions about that?
According to MB, they should have the same engine (size & spec):
2000 S430
-Engine 4,266-cc SOHC 24-valve V-8, high pressure die-cast alloy -cylinder block alloy heads.
-Net power 275 hp @ 5,750 rpm
-Net torque 295 lb-ft @ 3,000-4,400 rpm
-Compression ratio 10.0:1
2000 CLK430
-Engine 4,266-cc SOHC 24-valveV-8, high-pressure die-cast alloy cylinder block, alloy heads.
-Net power 275 hp @ 5,750 rpm
-Net torque 295 lb-ft @ 3,000-4,400 rpm
-Compression ratio 10.0:1
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That is interesting indeed. The specs. are identical as you have listed them. I am curious as to possibly the design of the engine or like you said, the engine cover that would make it to appear larger...
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Yeah thats what I said, Actually my neighbor came over bragging about his new S 430 engine and since im shaved he thought i had a 320. So I opened my hood and he was like whats that, im like a v8 , he was like not the same V8 in my car. I was like yes, they are the same just like the E430. SO he said follow me to my car and to my surprise, his engine definitely, looks bigger, I thought it was the CAP also but the engine looks like it takes up all the space under the cap, as if its made to fit. It Definitely looks bigger.
I will try and get some pics but don't wait on me...
I will try and get some pics but don't wait on me...
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Originally posted by J Lucas
I will try and get some pics but don't wait on me...
I will try and get some pics but don't wait on me...
Here is a picture of a 2003 S430 Engine:
