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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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Yes, the pre-2000 model mercedes is the easiest because it inside your engine bay and you really don't have to remove anything excepted the cable. The post-2000 mercedes models require that you remove the gas paddle. Btw, which sprint booster did you order for your W210 E55?
Ahh, I see..

I bought the AMG version. I'm happy with it. Thanks for all of the info prior to my purchase.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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AcSmash - The absolute easiest way to make one would be to take a commercially available one apart and duplicate it. Reverse engineer it so to speak.
Monte, thanks for the info my friend and I know what resistors and op amps are but I wouldn't have a clue on how to construct the device. However your discussion with Klihn does make valuable points on weighing the option on the SB investment...

Thanks,
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by AcSmash
Monte, thanks for the info my friend and I know what resistors and op amps are but I wouldn't have a clue on how to construct the device. However your discussion with Klihn does make valuable points on weighing the option on the SB investment...

Thanks,
No problem, I am glad to inform where I can.

I found this tutorial online, it's a little hokey, but its very useful in figuring out ways to use the op-amp to do what you want to do.

http://www.eas.asu.edu/~holbert/ece201/opamp.html

See section 9 - Non-inverting op-amps.

V_s (Voltage, source) is the voltage that comes out of your throttle pedal (or the ECU depending on whether you put the sprint booster between the throttle pedal and ECU, or under the hood between the ECU and the throttle actuator)

The triangle is the op-amp. If you look at the very beginning of this tutorial, you will see the source voltage that will need to be supplied to the amp as well.

V_out is the output voltage that you send to the ECU (or to the throttle valve acutator if the SB is installed after the ECU, and the ECU is the input voltage)

Z1 and Z2 are impedences. This is where you put your resistors.

Slide 9.8 gives the equation to tune your gain (the amplification of the input voltage). V_out = [1 + (Z_2 / Z_1)] * V_s.

So for V_out = 1.3 * V_s, you'll want a (Z_2 / Z_1) of about 0.3.
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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I guess you're right it not worth if all you think of this mods is just a couple resisitors and dis-regarded the company spent money on box, connectors, expoxy, wires, insulation....etc. I would love to see you try these "hack job" mods on your car....... There are four wires, just hope you hack the right wire or........

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Old May 1, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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Since your reading comprehensions skills seem to be about as reliable as your spelling/grammar skills and your understanding about what's actually going on with your car...

Originally Posted by SickSpeedMonte
I'd bet that whatever OEM wiring connector you'd need would be the most expensive part of the whole project.
Originally Posted by SickSpeedMonte
The electrical connectors (if MB specific) will probably be the most of your expenses.
I don't see how I disregarded electrical connectors (or the box, epoxy, wires... all of which are stupid cheap and not even worth mentioning unless you are stretching to make a point that can't stand on its own.

What wire would you have to "hack"? One would make the box plug right in with the MB connectors that I mentioned (twice) and if it doesn't work, you unplug it and try something else. You clearly do not understand what I am talking about (which is further demonstrated every time you say that all I claim is in there is resistors... even after I link a tutorial to amplifiers), so why don't you just stop showing your ignorance.

Otherwise, why don't you tell me what you think is in there since you seem to be such the sprint booster expert.

According to your WOT sound claims, it must be magic and fairy dust.

All I have done is give information. I'm sorry that the truth hurts your ego, but unless you can rebut with factual information, you have nothing to say.

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Old May 1, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SickSpeedMonte
Buy a pair of operational amplifiers and a few carefully chosen resistors and make your own..

Dude......I'm just ^%^$^^% with you.
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Old May 1, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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OMG, I can't believe you guys are still disputing this? LOL Klinh Monte is a engineer dude and I don't know if you went to college or not but they don't give engineer degrees to just anybody. There some of the smartest people I know and I'm an attorney... Anyhow, thanks for the laughs you guys, it was like a professor trying to school the student who thinks what he learns in class he would never use in real life... LOL
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Old May 2, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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I've decided to go for it.

For those who may want to buy: here the info

On the UK website the part # is SPR2087A
but in the USA, the part # is SBME0022

The point is: it's the same product, just different codes






They shipped me the wrong one, that's why I have the 2 AMG models.

I will install soon

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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FatTony001
I will install soon



You will NOT be disappointed. How you feel is all it matter regardless. Enjoy it !!
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FatTony001
I've decided to go for it.

For those who may want to buy: here the info

On the UK website the part # is SPR2087A
but in the USA, the part # is SBME0022

The point is: it's the same product, just different codes






They shipped me the wrong one, that's why I have the 2 AMG models.

I will install soon

Hi mate.

I've not been on this forum for a while but I have since bought a 2007 CLK 63 AMG Coupe.
This car is incredible.

Interestingly, I have just ordered a Sprint Booster for it today.
Should arrive tomorrow.

Thought I'd research the SB abit more and found this thread!
It's been very interesting to read through peoples different feelings on it.

The SB certainly made my CLK 230K more lively.

I can understand the differing opinions but understand that the SB is most likely to be just making the throttle pedal more sensitive.

But I'm going to install one anyway! heehee

I'm just too damn curious! haha




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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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Hi all.

My AMG Sprint Booster arrived today.

Annoyingly, I didn't get a chance to fit it tonight but it is the first thing on my list after work tomorrow!



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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Well, I've fitted my AMG sprint booster.

And it has definately made things alot more lively!

Touch the gas pedal and POW! Big punch in the back.

I've read loads and loads about the sprintbooster and now understand it and what it does.

There is no increase in HP or torque but the delivery of power is alot more urgent.

It has been well documented that the SB is purely an amplifier which ultimately makes your accelrator pedal more sensitive.

You can get full throttle with less accelerator pedal travel.

For me, this is fine.
To be honest, I never actually push the accelerator pedal all the way when I normally drive... apart from when I am conciously putting the hammer down!

So now, I have alot more urgency with just a twitch of my right foot!

Conclusions:

It doesn't increase HP or torque.
It increases the sensitivity of the accelerator pedal (effectively shortening the travel distance of the accelerator pedal).
It makes your car feel very keen to go.
And most of all - makes driving your car MORE fun!

However, I'm sure that after a while, you will become "accustomed" to the new sensitivity of the accelerator pedal.
But that won't change the fact that the throttle opens quicker (even if only marginally). This is what I think the SprintBooster is offering.

And now that I've installed it, I don't think I'll be removing it.

Those with larger engines & more torque will probably notice the liveliness most.


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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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I second that !!

After 2 days of driving with my AMG Sprint Booster

WOW ! All AMG should have come with this OEM

The car feels alot faster (even if no HP gain)

eg: I was always driving in S mode but now I drive in C mode
and it feel better and faster.
S mode is now a bit sensitive for the city streets. but highway is really nice

The point: GET ONE NOW ! worth the 300$

Bought mine from this Co. from Canada Speed factor

speedfactorracing@gmail.com

The service was great ! A+++

See ya around


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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FatTony001
I second that !!

After 2 days of driving with my AMG Sprint Booster

WOW ! All AMG should have come with this OEM

The car feels alot faster (even if no HP gain)

eg: I was always driving in S mode but now I drive in C mode
and it feel better and faster.
S mode is now a bit sensitive for the city streets. but highway is really nice

The point: GET ONE NOW ! worth the 300$

Bought mine from this Co. from Canada Speed factor

speedfactorracing@gmail.com

The service was great ! A+++

See ya around


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Hey buddy!

Yeah, I'm properly chuffed with it too.
And you're right about S mode being too sensitive!
I keep my *** in C mode if ever I get caught in traffic!

Other than that... M mode all the way!!

Glad you're happy with the results.

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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FatTony001
I second that !!

After 2 days of driving with my AMG Sprint Booster

WOW ! All AMG should have come with this OEM

The car feels alot faster (even if no HP gain)

eg: I was always driving in S mode but now I drive in C mode
and it feel better and faster.
S mode is now a bit sensitive for the city streets. but highway is really nice

The point: GET ONE NOW ! worth the 300$

Bought mine from this Co. from Canada Speed factor

speedfactorracing@gmail.com

The service was great ! A+++

See ya around


Tony


I never get tired of reading the excitement from people who done this mods. I've been telling you guy for YEARSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS to do this mods. And like i said it the past, you can change the sensitive of the spring booster just by changing the tranny mode from S to C. ENJOY BUDDY !!!
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by FatTony001

WOW ! All AMG should have come with this OEM




Tony

I agreed like on the BMW M cars.
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Rashman
And you're right about S mode being too sensitive!
I keep my *** in C mode if ever I get caught in traffic!
So let me get this straight, you guys are running your car in C mode, which means starting in 3rd gear? I hate the delay going from 3rd to 1st due to C mode.

Doesn't that bother you guys?
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by trikoid
So let me get this straight, you guys are running your car in C mode, which means starting in 3rd gear?

I only switch over C mode if i run into stop-n-go traffic.
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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So let me get this straight, you guys are running your car in C mode, which means starting in 3rd gear? I hate the delay going from 3rd to 1st due to C mode.

Doesn't that bother you guys?
Second gear correct. Thats what the manual for my car says.
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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Second gear correct. Thats what the manual for my car says.

Correct......it start out in 2nd gear.
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Old Jul 17, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by trikoid
So let me get this straight, you guys are running your car in C mode, which means starting in 3rd gear? I hate the delay going from 3rd to 1st due to C mode.

Doesn't that bother you guys?

The only time I use C mode is if I've just started the car and am waiting for the car to tell me the oil is at running temperature. Or when I'm in traffic.

Other than that - M mode!


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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 07:40 PM
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I was thinking of doing the Ecu reset trick...

I know how, but never did it.

Now that I have installed the Sprint Booster...

Does it change anything?
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FatTony001
I was thinking of doing the Ecu reset trick...

I know how, but never did it.

Now that I have installed the Sprint Booster...

Does it change anything?

I guess you didn't read my post regarding doing ECU or MAF reset with Sprint Booster. Don't do it with Sprint Booster. If you ever need the ECU or MAF reset, remove the Sprint Booster then install it back after the "reset" procedure.
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 11:03 PM
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how much did you guys pay for yours i only found on ebay and they go for $319.
i found a great deal tho 10 sprint boosters for $220 each.
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