hoopy82

HI
I bought rims from member here
he said wheels came from SL its double spoke AMG wheels
8.5X19 et25 with 235/35/19
10X19 et28 with 265/30/19

I have 05 CLK500 with Bilstein shocks and H&R springs.

I think front works fine without any trouble, however at rear both make crazy sound something like haning bunch of cans.
i took out wheels and looked inside, wheel didn't touch shock or springs though feels like wheel was touching plastic cover with fabrics.

i am guessing i need wheel spacer for rear and what mm do i have to have?

also can someone tell me that picture of pacer is hubcentric spacer or just spacer.
thank you so much

M-bENZ

may be the bolt is too long then ?

Andy

hoopy82

actually i am using short one from my old wheel HRE.
they are little short then original mb bolt.
i checked whith tire shop that they said bolt are fine. they are guessing wheel is touching inside.
thanks for help but i need more help from members here.
help me out. thanks

kiamcoj

Rear offsets are pretty aggressive with that wheel width and offset. I don't know if spacers will help your issues Chan.

hoopy82

Oh my. I am getting another wheeel trouble. No one use those wheels on clk? Aanyway good to see you jon. Coming tomorrow?

kiamcoj

Yeah, hopefully, I get up for work. lol. I will text you tomorrow.

quaalude

Spacers pictured are hubcentric.

If they are AMG wheels, then they use ball seat type lug bolts, i.e. OEM type bolts. The HRE wheel bolts you are using should be conical type lug bolts and should not be used with the AMG wheels. As for offset, 28mm et in the rear should give you more than enough clearance from the plastic wheel well cover. I'm running a 28mm offset in the rear (38mm et offset with 10mm spacer) with no rubbing between the rim and the wheel well cover. Jack up the rear of the car and look from underneath to see how much clearance you have.

hoopy82

thanks for info. bythe way how long bolt should be? i went dealer and ask what bolt i should use and no answer. i only can get from my vin # which is way longer. but thank you so much for the answers.

guofan

I bought a set of HRE looking wheels. I try to put them on my car with OEM lugs and they are very loose and dangerous. If i don't have spacers, do I just use conical lugs to have my wheels on safely? Is there a specific length I should be looking for?

dariusf

Don't think in terms of bolt length. It all depands on the wheels and if you use any spacers. Basically you put a bolt in the wheel and check how much it sticks out in the back. The OEM sticks out 5/8th of an inch. Anything over that and you will not be able to tighten the fronts and on the rears the ends of the bolts will hit the e-brake (at least on my 03 clk320). Also make sure you have the proper bolt seat for the wheels you are using, cone or conical shape verses ball shape.

dariusf

Also make sure you torque the bolts with a good torque wrench to 85lb !!!

quaalude

This is the proper way to do it.

For my HRE's, the offsets are 34mm et for the fronts and the rears are 38mm et. I used 23mm for the front lugs bolts and 37mm for the rears with a 10mm spacer. The fronts you can use slighty longer bolts as there is nothing to interfere, i.e. e-brake, but like dariusf said, be careful with the rears as you can hit the e-brake. A good rule of thumb is to have 5-6 turns on the lug bolts when fully seated.

quaalude

If these are SL wheels, you will have to get lug bolts with a radius of 14mm. I'm pretty sure the bigger Benz's, i.e. SL, E, CLS, etc. use a 14mm x 1.5 with a R14. R14=14mm radius. C-class and CLK use a 12mm x 1.5 with a R12. You can get 12mm x 1.5 with a R14 from here:

http://www.radusadirect.com/category...lts.ball_seat/

quaalude

If they are loose, then you are probably using the wrong lug bolts. HRE use a conical lug bolt. If yours are HRE replicas, then most likely they use conical bolts. I have some extra conical bolts that I'll sell you. I have some left over 27mm and 33mm bolts.

dariusf

Well I for example was using the correct shape conical bolts but they were 27mm long (the threaded area) and effectively the thread part sticking out was 6/8th (~15mm) of an inch that was 1/8th (~2mm) too long. Do to this when I tightened the bolts the front wheels would still wiggle. The reason was that the bolts would not thread in to the hub any more, they reached the limit how much would thread in. Maybe the end of the whole was rusted or something, I don't know but they threaded in to a point and that's it, while to secure the wheel I still needed them to go in another 2mm. Once I tried 24mm bolts, same conical shape, I was able to tighten them just fine. In the end I ended up using the longer 27mm bolts and added 3mm spacers do to shock clearance on the front. For the rear I just got a set of 24mm bolts for now but I just got another set of 3mm spacers and will push them out and use the 27mm bolts.

Different wheels will require deferent bolts. The OEM bolts that came with my car are much longer in fact the shaft (not counting the head) is 40mm long. That's for the OEM 2003 standard 16" wheels while the 19" Monarch Euro 63 wheels need a bolt with a total shaft length of 24mm. Thats why I think the safest way to deal with this is to put the proper (conical or ball) bolt threw the wheel and check how much is sticking out. On 2003 CLK320 it can't be any loner then ~15mm and at least 5-6 turns. Should be the same across all w209 CLKs.

hoopy82

Thanks everone it helped so much. I bought 10mm h&r hub spacer and they stopped touching. However fender was tuching when car has body roll. Ordered 12mm bolt with 34mm ball seat type today. Will be soon. Now I am having problem with outside fender scratches tires. When I used pepboy cheap spacer. 5/16" worked fine no touching inside or outside. Should I get 5mm h&r spacer or fender rolling? Also if I get 5mm spcer should I get little more short bolt? Anyway thank you so much.
Also need more helps. Thank you

Ps. Is there anyone who want change 5mm h&r spacer with 10mm spacer? They are brand new.

guofan

Thanks for the tip. I think 27 and 33 are too long isn't it if I don't run spacers.

dariusf

just stick the bolt in the wheel and see if you get MAX of ~15mm sticking out in the back. If there is more sticking out, add the spacer the size of the extra length or get shorter bolts. The length of the bolt is the shaft so just measure it

guofan

Thanks!

hoopy82

Hi everyone thanks for tips and helps.
i took out 10 mm spacer and put 5 mm spacer and new bolts. 34mm is too long so i got short one. when i had 10 mm hub spacer fender was scratch outside of tires, now they got much better. i didn't try with 4 people in the car, but hopely never happens putting 4 people in my car.
so thanks so much for the helps. thank you

ps : i am selling 10mm H&R hub spacer. offer me.

dynomite05

Selling with or without bolts

hoopy82

without bolts.

hoopy82

By the way can some one recomend shop who can roll the fender in la area?