EuroTech430

Ok, so has anyone done this before? I currently have a 15" Kicker L7 with a to-spec box, and I have no trunk space at all. In the rear deck, theres two holes for factory 10" woofers, (removed the stock one). If I were to put in 2 Kicker 10" woofers in the rear deck and remove the 15, would I still have much for bass? The deck is sound deadened and the trunk is completely covered in sound deadening material from the factory. Would the trunk itself act as a box with the speakers in the deck pounding into the hatch of the car?

Also, what are the speaker sizes? Can I run a full aftermarket speaker system without running new wires from the amp?

Kevwood

Because the subs in the rear deck will essentially be running 'free air' you'll need to pick a brand & type that are designed to work this way. Two 10's can produce a he'll of a lot of bass, I ran to 10's in my IASCA SQ car, it was a fantastic balance, won it's class & zone and it turn earned an invite to the World Finals. That being said, you would need to run a separate amp for the two subs and either make sure it has line level inputs or you use a line level converter. Not ideal.

As for the speaker wires, the answer is yes and no. You could use the factory wiring with aftermarket speakers but the system is 2ohm, the aftermarket speakers will be 4ohm. With half the resistance the sound quality & volumes will be affected.

EuroTech430

Negatively I assume? More resistance = less volume correct? Now along the same topic, every once in a while my car gets retarded and decides to max out the volume randomly and I have to turn it back down, and then it goes almost silent. Its when I don't touch the dial, unlike those that the less you turn it the more random it gets.

Kevwood

Yes, higher resistance = lower volume. Example, an 8ohm speaker powered by a 4 ohm stable car audio amp will have a lower dB output than a same size 4ohm speaker. There are a lot of other factors to consider as well when adding aftermarket components to a factory system, by ohm ratings are the first and most basic thing to understand IMO.

Backing up a bit, tell me what your overall 'system plan' is, are you planning on using the factory head unit or replacing it? Dependig on what you are going to do in the end I can give you a few different answers/opinions/suggestions.

dynomite05

Kev, I see you know your audio. You're definitely a valuable resource here. Any plans on doing anything in the CLK? I will be starting my audio soon so I will be picking your brain.

Kevwood

Wes, I use to work for a major car/home audio comapny for a few years and competed in IASCA as well, both my entries were World Finalist invites. I'll scan in a few pages of a magazine that my last car was in. I'll be more than happy to help you and any other member here, I really miss helping friends over weekends on their projects, it was a great hobby.

As for my CLK, maybe, I have already drawn out what I would do, made a list of all the equipment and wiring, just need to decide yay/nay. I bought this car to play around one more time before buying my 'dream car', so, I might...

dynomite05

Cool looking forward to those magazine scans. Sounds like you have a healthy resume. I hav access to the wiring diagrams for our cars so if you need them let me know.

Kevwood

Lol, yes, my 'car' resume is very diverse, a little bit of everything besides bodywork and selling them. One day when I return from overseas (hope it wont be for a long time yet) I'm definately going to open another side business and get back into doing what I love the most, modding & working with cars.

I'll certainly keep you in mind for the diagrams. If I do something I'll have a few thousand pics - every project I do gets documented (recorded & photographed) very well.

dynomite05

Good Man! BTW: Your flames are looking much better than last year. Tough injury though.

Kevwood

Thanks for mentioning that! Still early mate but 2 wins in the same night over Vancouver was an awesome start to the pre-season . And ya, Stage is the one guy with a load of potential this year and he's going to be out a month. Oh well. And hey - how 'bout them Broncos! Orton turned a page and looked great!

Sorry for the thread hijack Eurotech430, I'll make sure you get you questions aswered in between sports chat.

dynomite05

lol, yea sorry for the threadjack. I just picked up Orton as my back up in fantasy football, I hope he keeps gunning it...

EuroTech430

Hey, sorry about the delayed response. Very busy at work today. Im not really going for anything in particular with the sound system, just want something with more ooph than the stock setup. I would love to run an aftermarket deck, but from what I understand no one makes an aftermarket unit surround for the 03 CLK500? I have a single din flip out screen Jensen that I have used in my last few cars and has worked fine. Unfortunately I thought you couldn't run aftermarket radios in there.

Kevwood

I believe that no one makes a double din dash kit for the face lifted w209, I think the '03 is pre-facelift is it not? Anyways, you can certainly run an aftermarket head unit mate, just need to get a single din kit, wire harness and decide if you want to run speakers off the deck or an aftermarket amp.

dynomite05

Yea, 03 is pre-facelift and I believe Scosche makes a DD kit that can be used.

Kevwood

Cool, there you go Euro, thatks to Wes's confirmation you can run either a double or single din deck if you want. If you're going torun the Jensen, the single din kit should come with a pocket in it in to fill the dual din void.

Wes, in regards to your question about me doing a system, after thinking about it, yes. I am going to finish up all the mods I have coming from Canada first, then I'm going to strip the audio system and build something custom. If this is going to be my last mod car, I might as well do a little of everything I enjoy!

EuroTech430

Hold up, hold up, hold up! I can run a single din in my car??? Where can I get it at? I need to get this so I can run my deck and have my sub hooked up properly!

Kevwood

When I was in Canada for a week in May I went to a buddies shop looking for a two din dash kit, I was told that none were listed but there were single din kits. If you're going to run your Jensen then we need to work on the rest of your system too mate, you have 4 door speakers, two tweets and a center channel to consider... All doable!

dynomite05

I know you want a single Euro, but I wanted to post this since I found the link for the Double Din. Just in case someone else needs it.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...+-+MZ2347.html

Kevwood

Thanks for the link!

I should buy one of those and mod it to fit, that would make a good DIY thread. It looks like the audio system in my C class would darn near fit in the CLK.