grech

Nice work! I've also had a a few emails back and forth with Dynavin Germany, I'll summarize as following:

Me:I'm looking to buy a Dynavin unit for my car, a W209 2007 CLK280 (facelifted). I can see that the DVN-MC2000 is only for pre-facelift CLK. What headunit will fit my W209? Would it be the DVN-MBC that is made for facelifted W203s?

Jürgen Haas from Dynavin: Sorry, at the moment we don’t have a unit that fits. Perhaps next year.

Me: I really thought the MBC would fit, since the facelift C Class headunit looks strikingly similar to my facelift CLK.

Jürgen: W203 headunit is 2 mm wider than facelift W209. Because of that it doesn’t fit.

discoduck

I'm looking to get the pre-facelift Dynavin for my 55...

Let's see that finished install

eddieo45

yeah, I found that out the hard way, when i bought a 203 Audio 20 for my 209:


(can you even tell??)

203 unit for sale HERE. BTW.

navycooder

Aside from creating a new trim piece...would this work in a w202?

michaelnovikov

To bring back a dead thread, if the difference is 2mm or at least so small, cant the unit side be trimmed to make fit?

I think the real concern would be in the connectors, are w203 facelifted models share the same connectors as the w209 facelifted model?

I think that if size is the only issue and compatibility isnt then the facelifted unit from dynavin for w203 should ideally work with w209.

eddieo45

how do you propose to trim it? I've seen pics of a facelifted W209 radio in a W203, with little gaps on each side, but I don't know of anyone doing the opposite. Would you take a beltsander to it or something?

michaelnovikov

Sanding can work i do not see why not but i can imagine shaving this with a blade shouldnt be difficult either. It just depends exactly where the fitment issue comes in from what i can tell the bracket are slightly off but a bolt will still go through.

eddieo45

I should've snapped a pic from the back of the radios when I had both.

The "face" seems to be both the front plastic and metal behind, and I doubt that the bolt will go thru to the threaded hole.

aznmode

The mounting is different too so you can't screw it down. So if you're not concerned about securing it then it might work if you trim it. Connectors are the same.

Nero Tenebre

Soo... I'm just joining this party and read through most of the thread. Are us Audio20 2005+ W209 CLK guys waiting for a unit that fits right or is it already available?

I found these two which say they'll fit, does anyone know anything about them?
http://www.cars-electronics.com/70-i...map_p1331.html
http://www.cars-electronics.com/2-di...oth_p1449.html

pskdude

Anyone have any reviews or can say anything about these units ??>

dariusf

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Originally Posted by pskdude

Anyone have any reviews or can say anything about these units ??>

I have the pre-facelift model and that fit exactly. Not sure about this facelift format. You should contact Jeff at J&T, he is authorized US dealer for Dynavin and ask him if he can get you a template of the front face to you can compare to your car or maybe he already sold these units and can confirm the exact fit.

jtdist@sbcglobal.net
(559) 486-4047

Good luck an please post back what you find out

Darius

dariusf

you can see a little bit of space on the top but this was before I pressed in and secured the wood trim. I know its not your updated design

mis3

Wow, it looks like the new NAV fits perfectly.

My 2004 CLK320 (no NAV) has the same dash. Do you have to buy a new wood trim to fit the new NAV? How about the connectors in the back?

megacrazy

The unit fits perfectly...not necessary to buy any trim. As far as the wiring, it's plug and play if you don't have Bose. If you do...then that's an entirely different issue.

The dynavin works great if you get a custom ROM on it and you set it up the way you want to. The only issue is ROM corruption if you turn off power before the unit has fully finished booting.

mis3

I probably have the Bose. I can see the label "Bose" in my rear speakers.

What do you mean by ROM corruption? Let say you go to your car, turn on the NAV (or radio), then for whatever reason you have to switch off the car.

megacrazy

In that case no matter what aftermarket radio you have you basically have to add amps to power the speakers and run wires. There's no plug and play.

So basically if you turn off the car before the unit has booted the android part up you're screwed. You have to reinstall the ROM. It may or may not be a big deal. I mean it boots up in like 30 seconds.

dariusf

I have not done any ROM upgrades and face no issues like that. Just don;t mass with the unit and you will be fine.

No trim changes needed, fits perfect.

The unit has on board amp so you do not need to add external one although I did and it greatly improves the sound but adds quite a bit of extra wiring and work.

If you have Bose with its own bose amp, like I did, you are looking and a MUCH LARGER job. Basically short story is you will need to use the units amp or get external amp, replace all speakers as the bose are 2ohm unless you get expansive converter but the bose speakers are junk anyway so might as well just replace them. You will also need to run extra wires to the door speakers due to the way its setup with bose.

The head unit was more or less plug and play besides these issues. Integrates with the steering wheels fine as well. I also ran fresh wires for all speakers from head unit to trunk as I added the external amp and crossovers. That also needed extra run of power from the car's battery to the trunk and extra control cable (the one I wanted to tap in to did not work for me).

In the end the car sound great and its a huge improvement.

mis3

Not sure if I understand. I assume the configuration of Bose and Harmon Kardon are similar. A head unit, an amplifier and speakers, right? We are just changing the head unit and the rest should remain the same.

dariusf

No, Bose uses 2ohm speakers so you can't run them with most amps. So you have to replace them with 4ohm or get a converter for the signal (not best for sound). The Bose amp also is propitiatory and will not integrate with any other unit.

dariusf

you could get converter and leave bose speakers there but will also need to run extra set of speaker wires from trunk to the doors (bose stupid setup). But amp has to go. As you running the extra set of speaker wires to the doors and have to take the panels off, you might as well replace the junk bose speakers while you are there. Bose is very low quality to begin with and not standard (2ohm, special amp)

OverDrive

For my CLK the interior is next on my list to do as far as a facelift upgrade.... I have everything expect the 05+ navigation/radio as I am torn to get the factory navi like I did before with my W203 (See Sig) or get the W203 Facelift Dynavin and try to retrim it to work in the W209......

If you have the Bose System, you have to rip out the old stock amp and replace it with an aftermarket one, however you can retain your speakers if you get an amp that supports 2ohm. You can use a factory 05+ navigation with a Hi-low converter to the aftermarket amp and it works fine, If you get a 5 Channel amp, you can also use your stock sub.

mis3

Is there a chance that I have HK system with Bose speakers?

dariusf

NO

dariusf

Converting the interior to facelift is one hell of a job and I think very little return in my eyes

Few amps when I looked had 2ohm support and you will have to run extra set of speaker wires to the doors from the trunk. Might as well replace the junk speakers at the same time. Will only add a little bit of work and cost and deference sound wise will be huge.

Note: 2003 CLK320 had Bose and no sub. I added one as I have 5 channel amp.