Finally, CLK550 Dyno!
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I find it very very hard to believe that black's car ran a 12.5 with just minor mods because the AMG E55 Kompressor stock ran 12.5. My friend's C55 with Kleemann SC ran an 12.4. Video........anywhere?
Here's the info I got from Car and Driver magazine.....
"Of course, the telltale sign that really matters resides under the hood in the form of AMG's hand-built 5.4-liter, supercharged-and-intercooled 24-valve V-8, which puts out a Jack LaLanne-healthy 469 horsepower and 516 pound-feet of torque. Teamed with a heavy-duty AMG five-speed automatic, the blown V-8 produces staggering results: 0 to 60 in 4.1 seconds; the quarter-mile in 12.5 at 114 mph; and 0 to 150 in 24 flat. The comparisons at the start of this story show what kind of sports cars this wagon stays door to door with. "Mommy, race that Ferrari!""
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
Here's the info I got from Car and Driver magazine.....
"Of course, the telltale sign that really matters resides under the hood in the form of AMG's hand-built 5.4-liter, supercharged-and-intercooled 24-valve V-8, which puts out a Jack LaLanne-healthy 469 horsepower and 516 pound-feet of torque. Teamed with a heavy-duty AMG five-speed automatic, the blown V-8 produces staggering results: 0 to 60 in 4.1 seconds; the quarter-mile in 12.5 at 114 mph; and 0 to 150 in 24 flat. The comparisons at the start of this story show what kind of sports cars this wagon stays door to door with. "Mommy, race that Ferrari!""
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...take_road_test
Read the post again, he didn't say the 550 did 12.5.
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it looks like bad black will have to once again prove some people wrong in here, i hear he is going to the track when car is fixed. If he does 12.5 many people here will need to suck it up and apologize. The guy was bashed on BMW forums then he ran and beat a 12.5 second car, everyone got quite, then he was asked for a dyno sheet he went and got one done everyone started speculating once again. I personally think clk550 is highly detuned and under rated from factory. Headers, cams and a tune make clk550 460WHP if you ask me thats big power from bolt ons.
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A lightweight NA 55 AMG can get into the mid 12s NA with the right mods (highly modded W208 CLK55s did it NA) so it is possible in an AMG weighing less than 3600lbs.
The 550s also respond to tuning much better than the old M113 5.5s so it is possible in theory if he has a really strong custom dyno tune to get 50 crank HP with the other mods mentioned (but not 50 wheel HP). Usually to break 50whp you will need a serious set of headers + high flow cats & etc.
With that said his car dynoed very strong numbers. but 460whp NA ... definitely not happening. Even 460 crank would be extremely optimistic, but with the right set of mods and deep enough wallet I guess anything is possible
Thx,
AMS
The 550s also respond to tuning much better than the old M113 5.5s so it is possible in theory if he has a really strong custom dyno tune to get 50 crank HP with the other mods mentioned (but not 50 wheel HP). Usually to break 50whp you will need a serious set of headers + high flow cats & etc.
With that said his car dynoed very strong numbers. but 460whp NA ... definitely not happening. Even 460 crank would be extremely optimistic, but with the right set of mods and deep enough wallet I guess anything is possible
Thx,
AMS
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A lightweight NA 55 AMG can get into the mid 12s NA with the right mods (highly modded W208 CLK55s did it NA) so it is possible in an AMG weighing less than 3600lbs.
The 550s also respond to tuning much better than the old M113 5.5s so it is possible in theory if he has a really strong custom dyno tune to get 50 crank HP with the other mods mentioned (but not 50 wheel HP). Usually to break 50whp you will need a serious set of headers + high flow cats & etc.
With that said his car dynoed very strong numbers. but 460whp NA ... definitely not happening. Even 460 crank would be extremely optimistic, but with the right set of mods and deep enough wallet I guess anything is possible
Thx,
AMS
The 550s also respond to tuning much better than the old M113 5.5s so it is possible in theory if he has a really strong custom dyno tune to get 50 crank HP with the other mods mentioned (but not 50 wheel HP). Usually to break 50whp you will need a serious set of headers + high flow cats & etc.
With that said his car dynoed very strong numbers. but 460whp NA ... definitely not happening. Even 460 crank would be extremely optimistic, but with the right set of mods and deep enough wallet I guess anything is possible
Thx,
AMS
Looks like bad black is up to something again.
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The 550s also respond to tuning much better than the old M113 5.5s so it is possible in theory if he has a really strong custom dyno tune to get 50 crank HP with the other mods mentioned (but not 50 wheel HP). Usually to break 50whp you will need a serious set of headers + high flow cats & etc.
With that said his car dynoed very strong numbers. but 460whp NA ... definitely not happening. Even 460 crank would be extremely optimistic, but with the right set of mods and deep enough wallet I guess anything is possible
Thx,
AMS
With that said his car dynoed very strong numbers. but 460whp NA ... definitely not happening. Even 460 crank would be extremely optimistic, but with the right set of mods and deep enough wallet I guess anything is possible
Thx,
AMS
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Cams completely change the equation, they are not a simple bolt on and they sacrifice lower end power to push up up towards the top half of the power band, so using that as a basis of comparison is comparing apples vs. oranges. With basic bolt-ons alone, its a stretch (a big one, borderline impossible).
Also, I think that individual got a CRANK HP reading dyno chart (which many of these dynos can do) and then interpreted that as a wheel HP # when in reality dyno operators print out crank HP numbers to make the customer feel better.
With those mods you should be making about 40+HP which adds up perfectly going from roughly 382ish to 430. Its obviously a crank HP number (which is still very impressive for a 550 motor.
Remember ... 430wHP = 530HP+ ... For the purposes of this discussion, It is almost impossible to go from ~390HP to 530HP without forced induction.
Also, I think that individual got a CRANK HP reading dyno chart (which many of these dynos can do) and then interpreted that as a wheel HP # when in reality dyno operators print out crank HP numbers to make the customer feel better.
With those mods you should be making about 40+HP which adds up perfectly going from roughly 382ish to 430. Its obviously a crank HP number (which is still very impressive for a 550 motor.
Remember ... 430wHP = 530HP+ ... For the purposes of this discussion, It is almost impossible to go from ~390HP to 530HP without forced induction.
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it has nothing to do with a 550 or amg since its essentially the same motor. You could of said a scion with bolt ons will make 460whp and I would of still laughed. I laugh because its not possible. Welcome back badblack!
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The 550 & old 5.5L M113 are not technically the same motor but they do essentially share the same bottom end. The 550 motor is a 4 valve DOHC, where as the M113 is 3-valve SOHC, which explains why the 550 motor makes a bit more power and flows better on the top end. But essentially much of the specs are the same.
but again, those numbers are not realistic unless you are talking about FI or crank numbers
but again, those numbers are not realistic unless you are talking about FI or crank numbers
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Update from bad black:
The shop has confirmed that the Pulley is of high quality and did not cause the leak.
What has cause the leak is the installer reusing the original crank seal which is a one time use part that cost $15. Now he had to pay another $200 to replace this. whole ordeal cost him $400 in installation and 500 for the pulley $900 in total.
Once again thank you AMS for showing that you stand behind your product to the end.
The shop has confirmed that the Pulley is of high quality and did not cause the leak.
What has cause the leak is the installer reusing the original crank seal which is a one time use part that cost $15. Now he had to pay another $200 to replace this. whole ordeal cost him $400 in installation and 500 for the pulley $900 in total.
Once again thank you AMS for showing that you stand behind your product to the end.
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Not 100% true to the statement. Unless the seal is removed then you should never reuse it. Removal/installation of the crank pulley does not have anything to do with the seal. Back in the days I installed about 50+ ASP pulley kit and never even touch the seal. The seal is part of the bottom end block. It stay with the block whether you install/remove the crank pulley. Seriuosly, alot poeple done this mods, does anyone of you got the crank pulley "seal" came with the kit?
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Not 100% true to the statement. Unless the seal is removed then you should never reuse it. Removal/installation of the crank pulley does not have anything to do with the seal. Back in the days I installed about 50+ ASP pulley kit and never even touch the seal. The seal is part of the bottom end block. It stay with the block whether you install/remove the crank pulley. Seriuosly, alot poeple done this mods, does anyone of you got the crank pulley "seal" came with the kit?
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yeah but at least he was active and a contributor to the boards. We can't say that about many here. I thought he was a dick at first but he is not a bad guy. I joined dyno's forum and see he is on there helping out. For those who like to speak their mind and not worry about being banned, feel free to join as well. Im not going to go against TOU and post the board name but those who want to join can pm me if they wish
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