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Old 05-17-2011, 06:36 AM
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KW variant V1 coilovers

Can anyone comment on this kit.. In terms of ride quality, handling and clearance issues.. I'm looking at purchasing this kit within the next couple weeks so just need to know on what others think.. I've got a 19x8.5 rim with +30 offset up front with a 235/35/19.. Just need to know how low can I go before I start rubbing ..
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why not get the v2...isnt it like 300 more?
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Originally Posted by dynomite05
I feel like I have answered your question a hundred times.
Lol yes you probably have but I just want to make sure 100% and on this exact kit not the Bilstein or koni or V2... $245O is what it's gonna cost me total with labour .. We get absolutely raped dry here for pricing and it's not something that you can just return.. I just don't want to be dissapointed that wen I fit it I'm gonna run into issues such as rubbing and the hole clearance issue because spacers are not an option. Otherwise I'll be cursing for sure lol I was hoping to have it lowered 45mm at front and 45mm at rear
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why not get the v2...isnt it like 300 more?
Here it will cost me $500 more and I'm sure the installer will rape me with the fitting price as it's more time and work to fine tune.. The distributor recommended the v1 kit as I only use my car as a daily and it does not go on the track and I just want it a touch lower than what I already have. Plus my H&R springs with stock shocks combo is killing me at the moment
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Originally Posted by N.Pirrone VSEXY
Here it will cost me $500 more and I'm sure the installer will rape me with the fitting price as it's more time and work to fine tune.. The distributor recommended the v1 kit as I only use my car as a daily and it does not go on the track and I just want it a touch lower than what I already have. Plus my H&R springs with stock shocks combo is killing me at the moment

What is wrong with that?
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I have that H&R setup with the stock stuff and it is fine. I have probably put nearly 20k miles on it with no issues. Last week while having that strut nut tightened back down I posted on, I had the guy at the shop check each strut and shock. All checked out good in his professional opinion.
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I don't know about you guys but my ride is quite rough so I think my shocks might be wearing out.. I know that stock shocks and lowered springs are a bad combo and will wear out the shocks faster and I'm just not happy with the ride.. I jump in my dads a207 e500 cabriolet and it feels a million times smoother compared to mine.. I know once you lower the car it will never feel like factory but I know that I can definitely go for a better setup than what I have now. Every bump and ditch the car just drops firmly
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E500 cabriolet ? what ?
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E500 cabriolet ? what ?
it's the new A207 e500... it's the 550 but it's called 500 in some markets
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Yeah it's pretty stupid here... They badge the update clk 500 and new e class cabriolet as a 500 when really it should be a 550 coz it has te 285kw 5.5 engine... I feel like rebadging with taking out one zero and putting on a 5 to make it 550 but then it would look out of place here so i can't win lol
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In my opinion I would go with the V2s. Might be worth it to have the ability to adjust your damper settings. When I first installed the V2s they were set a bit stiff so I softened them, but when people sat in the back or if I had stuff in the trunk I would get rubbing issues, so I stiffened the back. It's nice to have the option to adjust your damper setting according to your local roads.

With V1s you don't have the option to set your damper setting and may have to adjust your ride height to compensate. I have 19s, 10mm spacers all around, and about a finger gap. It's pretty hard to go any lower.
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Originally Posted by t2thejayc
In my opinion I would go with the V2s. Might be worth it to have the ability to adjust your damper settings. When I first installed the V2s they were set a bit stiff so I softened them, but when people sat in the back or if I had stuff in the trunk I would get rubbing issues, so I stiffened the back. It's nice to have the option to adjust your damper setting according to your local roads.

With V1s you don't have the option to set your damper setting and may have to adjust your ride height to compensate. I have 19s, 10mm spacers all around, and about a finger gap. It's pretty hard to go any lower.
As for the spacers did you need them to clear the coilovers? I have 19x9.5 on the rear and it's just clearing with a +35 offset.. As for the front I've got a 19x8.5 rim with +30 offset and still has space.. I just don't want to get the coilovers and then only be able to lower it another 5 -10 mm because it will rub on the spring and spacers aren't an option for me. Would just getting sport shocks be the better option along with my H&R springs..
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Originally Posted by N.Pirrone VSEXY
As for the spacers did you need them to clear the coilovers? I have 19x9.5 on the rear and it's just clearing with a +35 offset.. As for the front I've got a 19x8.5 rim with +30 offset and still has space.. I just don't want to get the coilovers and then only be able to lower it another 5 -10 mm because it will rub on the spring and spacers aren't an option for me. Would just getting sport shocks be the better option along with my H&R springs..

I'm 99.9% sure you will need spacers for the front to clear the springs perch. Mine rub and too stiff for my taste even on the softness setting. I got rid of that junk after two weeks. I love my Eibach springs and Bilstein sport struts/shocks.
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Originally Posted by Klinh
I'm 99.9% sure you will need spacers for the front to clear the springs perch. Mine rub and too stiff for my taste even on the softness setting. I got rid of that junk after two weeks. I love my Eibach springs and Bilstein sport struts/shocks.
Thanks for the info. Personally I don't think an extra 5-100 mm is worth it if it's gonna make my car ride like a go cart.. Looks like coilovers will be a no no I'll just consider either koni sport shocks or the Bilstein b8 sports shocks to match with my H&R springs.. From what I've read you have the b6 hd Bilstein shocks? When you say Bilstein struts/shocks are they separate pieces or are they all part of the kit when you buy them.. Also curious to ask is the ride fine with your eibach springs and the b6 HD kit because I was told that the b8 shocks should be used as it's a lowering spring
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Depends on how low you want to drop the car. To get my one finger gap and no rub I had to add the 10mm spacers. Without the spacers I probably had around a 2 finger gap with no rub in the front. Obviously I still rub against that splash guard/inner fender when I make wide turns. Rear, I had no issues. I added the 10mm spacers in the rear to get it flush.

I have 19x8.5 in the front and 19x10 in the rear. Not sure on the offset since they were custom made. Made the huge mistake of not getting a more aggressive offset from the start so I wouldn't need to get spacers/waste money/add weight. Also the tires you run make a bit of a difference (not much).
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Originally Posted by t2thejayc
Depends on how low you want to drop the car. To get my one finger gap and no rub I had to add the 10mm spacers. Without the spacers I probably had around a 2 finger gap with no rub in the front. Obviously I still rub against that splash guard/inner fender when I make wide turns. Rear, I had no issues. I added the 10mm spacers in the rear to get it flush.

I have 19x8.5 in the front and 19x10 in the rear. Not sure on the offset since they were custom made. Made the huge mistake of not getting a more aggressive offset from the start so I wouldn't need to get spacers/waste money/add weight. Also the tires you run make a bit of a difference (not much).
Yeah at the moment my car has a one finger gap on the passenger side and just under a two finger gap on the drivers side... Still too loose for my liking lol I would prefer if it it would be less than a finger gap... In other words I would've preferred it to be pretty tight and have to struggle to fit a finger in.. By the way I'm still talking about the fender gap here lol not trying to be dirty haha..I think this applies to many other subjects lol but thats a whole other story..
Just weird with the H&R how the back sits nicely and the front just doesn't lower as much..
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Originally Posted by t2thejayc
In my opinion I would go with the V2s. Might be worth it to have the ability to adjust your damper settings. When I first installed the V2s they were set a bit stiff so I softened them, but when people sat in the back or if I had stuff in the trunk I would get rubbing issues, so I stiffened the back. It's nice to have the option to adjust your damper setting according to your local roads.

With V1s you don't have the option to set your damper setting and may have to adjust your ride height to compensate. I have 19s, 10mm spacers all around, and about a finger gap. It's pretty hard to go any lower.
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Originally Posted by N.Pirrone VSEXY
Thanks for the info. Personally I don't think an extra 5-100 mm is worth it if it's gonna make my car ride like a go cart.. Looks like coilovers will be a no no I'll just consider either koni sport shocks or the Bilstein b8 sports shocks to match with my H&R springs.. From what I've read you have the b6 hd Bilstein shocks? When you say Bilstein struts/shocks are they separate pieces or are they all part of the kit when you buy them.. Also curious to ask is the ride fine with your eibach springs and the b6 HD kit because I was told that the b8 shocks should be used as it's a lowering spring
koni for adjustability. comes in handy when you say ride is too stiff

Originally Posted by N.Pirrone VSEXY
Yeah at the moment my car has a one finger gap on the passenger side and just under a two finger gap on the drivers side... Still too loose for my liking lol I would prefer if it it would be less than a finger gap... In other words I would've preferred it to be pretty tight and have to struggle to fit a finger in.. By the way I'm still talking about the fender gap here lol not trying to be dirty haha..I think this applies to many other subjects lol but thats a whole other story..
Just weird with the H&R how the back sits nicely and the front just doesn't lower as much..
but if you want a custom lowered job, you might as well go with v2 and pay the price for it cuz you will get the adjustability in ride height and damper on the road. if you dont care about how your car feels and just want that lowered look, go with v1. keep in mind h&r should be less stiff than a c/o set up
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Thanks I think I've come down to just choosing the koni shocks or Bilstein B8 shocks.. Another member mentioned that his H&R /Koni combo is good so might just go for that setup..
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konis are awesome. guaranteed you will love the set up!
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konis are awesome. guaranteed you will love the set up!
+1, best suspension setup I have ever ran for a daily.
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i have a v1 on mine... comparing to the H&R coil(cant remember which one) that i have before the h&r is more soft... and the kw v1 is more hard... its feel that the car have more grip than the H&R... i have issue with the rear rubbing most of the time. since there is no finger gap in the rear...
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