NEED HELP ... Alignment with Euro-spec springs
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
NEED HELP ... Alignment with Euro-spec springs
[?] I'm putting on Michelin PS2 on my stock AMG 17" rims. I told my MB mechanic I lowered the springs to Euro-spec AMG springs and the #1 spring pads all the way around.
The MB mechanic says the only AMG specs they have in their alignment computer is for the stock (American-version) AMG springs and I need to find out what the Euro specs (when I lowered the car) so he can manually input the numbers into the alignment computer to properly align my front end. He says without it, I won't be able to accurately adjust the camber/castor for the front wheels.
Those who have "lowered" your cars ... what have you done to properly set your alignment ... I don't want to have to buy tires any sooner than I already have to ... which is to damn soon with ZR rated tires to begin with ...
The MB mechanic says the only AMG specs they have in their alignment computer is for the stock (American-version) AMG springs and I need to find out what the Euro specs (when I lowered the car) so he can manually input the numbers into the alignment computer to properly align my front end. He says without it, I won't be able to accurately adjust the camber/castor for the front wheels.
Those who have "lowered" your cars ... what have you done to properly set your alignment ... I don't want to have to buy tires any sooner than I already have to ... which is to damn soon with ZR rated tires to begin with ...
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,619
Likes: 53
From: Georgia
E 63S Wagon Renntech, E55 Renntech, SL65, SL 55 030, ML, bunch of old ones--they come, they go...
I used the US specs for CLK 55...
and worked out OK ( I'm assuming we're talking about a 208 here). But you do need to know that you're going to have some serious camber issues with those #1 pads all the way around. If you have not yet installed the factory crash bolts in the front, you might as well hold up unitl you do. You're simply not going to be able to get enough camber in the front. The real problem is in the rear, as camber is not adjustable. With those number one pads, you're going to eat tires up in a hurry, not to mention that it's going to look pretty wimpy with those 17's and really low ride height. Again, the car is not supposed to be that low in the rear, or "even" with the front. It's supposed to be a trace higher in the rear for passengers, fuel, and luggage. And that also eases yoru camber problem, although it won't go away. Hope this helps.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 9,734
Likes: 65
From: Hotlanta
AMG
My dealership did the whole shebang. I am assuming they used the factory U.S. settings. I have no issues/problems associated with the change (my pads are 2 bump front and 1 bump rear), and have not experienced any unusual tire wear to date (4K miles).
I was going to suggest you posting over on http://www.amg-owners-club.org/board/en/wbb2/index.php, but I see you have already posed the question on the AMG Owners Group site.....
I was going to suggest you posting over on http://www.amg-owners-club.org/board/en/wbb2/index.php, but I see you have already posed the question on the AMG Owners Group site.....
Last edited by Chappy; Jun 21, 2005 at 07:33 AM.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 7,894
Likes: 8
From: Connecticut
2003 CLK55
Originally Posted by Chappy
....but of course... 
One really nice thing: On the first leg from ATL to Miami, AA bumped us to 1st Class
One really nice thing: On the first leg from ATL to Miami, AA bumped us to 1st Class
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,987
Likes: 0
From: Tampa, Fl
CLK63 Black Series
Originally Posted by TAMPACLK55AMG
[?] I'm putting on Michelin PS2 on my stock AMG 17" rims. I told my MB mechanic I lowered the springs to Euro-spec AMG springs and the #1 spring pads all the way around.
The MB mechanic says the only AMG specs they have in their alignment computer is for the stock (American-version) AMG springs and I need to find out what the Euro specs (when I lowered the car) so he can manually input the numbers into the alignment computer to properly align my front end. He says without it, I won't be able to accurately adjust the camber/castor for the front wheels.
Those who have "lowered" your cars ... what have you done to properly set your alignment ... I don't want to have to buy tires any sooner than I already have to ... which is to damn soon with ZR rated tires to begin with ...
The MB mechanic says the only AMG specs they have in their alignment computer is for the stock (American-version) AMG springs and I need to find out what the Euro specs (when I lowered the car) so he can manually input the numbers into the alignment computer to properly align my front end. He says without it, I won't be able to accurately adjust the camber/castor for the front wheels.
Those who have "lowered" your cars ... what have you done to properly set your alignment ... I don't want to have to buy tires any sooner than I already have to ... which is to damn soon with ZR rated tires to begin with ...
Trending Topics
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Thanks everyone for your insights ...
I got the specs from Gert over in Belgium ... he got the alignment specs from MB overthere ... and had the Euro-alignment specs (for the Euro-AMG springs and #1 spring pads) for my W208 AMG emailed to me.
I found a high-performance alignment and suspension facility (Cars and Concepts) located in Tampa, FL ... they only specialize in the upgrade and customizing of BMW, Porsche, Ferrari, and of course ... Mercedes Benz.
With the addition of two alignment bolts ... the car was aligned perfectly ... within the true AMG specs ... BTW ... the Michelin PS2's are awesome!
I might go with 18's after these tires wear out ... but I must say ... the car looks great ... and not like a 4x4 ... compared to in old photos.
I found out that Porsche owners do the same thing ... those cars are also "Americanized" with higher springs to meet ride height requirements ... and Cars and Concepts do the upgrades for those owners all the time ... nice to go to a repair shop that is already familiar with the "quirks" of Euro-performance autos.
I got the specs from Gert over in Belgium ... he got the alignment specs from MB overthere ... and had the Euro-alignment specs (for the Euro-AMG springs and #1 spring pads) for my W208 AMG emailed to me.
I found a high-performance alignment and suspension facility (Cars and Concepts) located in Tampa, FL ... they only specialize in the upgrade and customizing of BMW, Porsche, Ferrari, and of course ... Mercedes Benz.
With the addition of two alignment bolts ... the car was aligned perfectly ... within the true AMG specs ... BTW ... the Michelin PS2's are awesome!
I might go with 18's after these tires wear out ... but I must say ... the car looks great ... and not like a 4x4 ... compared to in old photos.
I found out that Porsche owners do the same thing ... those cars are also "Americanized" with higher springs to meet ride height requirements ... and Cars and Concepts do the upgrades for those owners all the time ... nice to go to a repair shop that is already familiar with the "quirks" of Euro-performance autos.
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
