Blown diff = No traction
10-20-2008, 11:37 AM
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Blown diff = No traction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76hQ8owqG9E
Look at the wheels during the burnout. The right spins but the left doesn't really. The track was sticky as hell too, you can hear it. Quaife is on the way, got new wheels/tires for traction too. Also have a problem with bouncing off the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift. Gonna try to get that fixed before MIR and show them what the CLK is all about
Look at the wheels during the burnout. The right spins but the left doesn't really. The track was sticky as hell too, you can hear it. Quaife is on the way, got new wheels/tires for traction too. Also have a problem with bouncing off the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift. Gonna try to get that fixed before MIR and show them what the CLK is all about
10-20-2008, 12:01 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76hQ8owqG9E
Look at the wheels during the burnout. The right spins but the left doesn't really. The track was sticky as hell too, you can hear it. Quaife is on the way, got new wheels/tires for traction too. Also have a problem with bouncing off the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift. Gonna try to get that fixed before MIR and show them what the CLK is all about
Look at the wheels during the burnout. The right spins but the left doesn't really. The track was sticky as hell too, you can hear it. Quaife is on the way, got new wheels/tires for traction too. Also have a problem with bouncing off the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift. Gonna try to get that fixed before MIR and show them what the CLK is all about
10-20-2008, 12:08 PM
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Look at the wheels during the burnout. The right spins but the left doesn't really. The track was sticky as hell too, you can hear it. Quaife is on the way, got new wheels/tires for traction too. Also have a problem with bouncing off the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift. Gonna try to get that fixed before MIR and show them what the CLK is all about
Look at the wheels during the burnout. The right spins but the left doesn't really. The track was sticky as hell too, you can hear it. Quaife is on the way, got new wheels/tires for traction too. Also have a problem with bouncing off the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift. Gonna try to get that fixed before MIR and show them what the CLK is all about
10-20-2008, 03:28 PM
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I am not positive, but I think that is what I have been told.
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Knowledge would help. SPA sells a dual digital temp guage, one readout for the differential and one for the tranny. They record peak values and can be programmed to sound an alarm when passing a pre-set limit.
10-20-2008, 05:13 PM
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Look at the wheels during the burnout. The right spins but the left doesn't really. The track was sticky as hell too, you can hear it. Quaife is on the way, got new wheels/tires for traction too. Also have a problem with bouncing off the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift. Gonna try to get that fixed before MIR and show them what the CLK is all about
Look at the wheels during the burnout. The right spins but the left doesn't really. The track was sticky as hell too, you can hear it. Quaife is on the way, got new wheels/tires for traction too. Also have a problem with bouncing off the rev limiter on the 2-3 shift. Gonna try to get that fixed before MIR and show them what the CLK is all about
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10-20-2008, 05:51 PM
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Thanks guys 
I'm having a hard time convincing myself to build the trans for so much $$$ even though I want it really bad
Chappy- Its the same as the 210, I will let you know if I encounter anything unusual.
BuilderBill- Yes I have, they break ath the spline that goes in the hub. The CLK430 axles are thicker but have the same spline count so thats no help.
I'm having a hard time convincing myself to build the trans for so much $$$ even though I want it really badChappy- Its the same as the 210, I will let you know if I encounter anything unusual.
BuilderBill- Yes I have, they break ath the spline that goes in the hub. The CLK430 axles are thicker but have the same spline count so thats no help.
10-20-2008, 06:06 PM
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Should be Open diff = No traction. If you truly had a blown diff, your car would not move at all. Title could also be Kleemanized = No traction. Any car making lots of power has traction issues.
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10-20-2008, 06:11 PM
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There is damage to the internals of the diff, hence the one wheel peel and the weird noises coming from it. Call it what you want to call it. The car had a Kleemann LSD in it
10-20-2008, 07:35 PM
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Sounds right. Your diff is acting like an open diff with a non-functional lsd in it. I've heard of other people who had Kleeman LSDs that broke eventually. You made the right choice in getting the Quaife.
10-20-2008, 08:08 PM
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The car went 11.48 @ 120.5 last year and alot has been done since then. Key notes since then: high stall torque converter, higher boost, VRP cams, ccw 16" wheels with mickey thompson et street radials, and tune that unleashed quite a bit of power under the curve (think 3 digits). I dont think I will use the nitrous yet but its there if I need it. Soon as I get the diff in it (just waiting on parts) I will take it to a test and tune for some shake down pass (will probably get kicked out). Taking a spare axle with me
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10-20-2008, 08:41 PM
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05 ML-500 , 03 CLK5.5 AMG has left the Garage
Hitting on the RPM Limiter
WhoAAAAAAA !! That rpm limiter hit , multiple times , throws a hell of a torque spike to the Drive train. I couldn't believe what I was hearing 
you got to get that eliminated First ! Can you short shift that gear change from 2nd to 3rd. Or are you just loosing traction up there also. REgards ___PTEngineering
you got to get that eliminated First ! Can you short shift that gear change from 2nd to 3rd. Or are you just loosing traction up there also. REgards ___PTEngineering
10-20-2008, 08:49 PM
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WhoAAAAAAA !! That rpm limiter hit , multiple times , throws a hell of a torque spike to the Drive train. I couldn't believe what I was hearing you got to get that eliminated First ! Can you short shift that gear change from 2nd to 3rd. Or are you just loosing traction up there also. REgards ___PTEngineering
you got to get that eliminated First ! Can you short shift that gear change from 2nd to 3rd. Or are you just loosing traction up there also. REgards ___PTEngineeringAlso a supra was testing its anti-lag almost at the exact same time as the car was bouncing off the rev limiter so all that sound is not coming form my car lol
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10-20-2008, 09:58 PM
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How much do the axles cost?
We've used a lot of these: http://www.driveshaftshop.com/main_cat1.php
Used them on the built Cobras and have never had an issue. I bet they may make a set of good ones for you.
We've used a lot of these: http://www.driveshaftshop.com/main_cat1.php
Used them on the built Cobras and have never had an issue. I bet they may make a set of good ones for you.
10-20-2008, 11:29 PM
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Thanks guys I'm having a hard time convincing myself to build the trans for so much $$$ even though I want it really bad
Chappy- Its the same as the 210, I will let you know if I encounter anything unusual.
BuilderBill- Yes I have, they break ath the spline that goes in the hub. The CLK430 axles are thicker but have the same spline count so thats no help.
I'm having a hard time convincing myself to build the trans for so much $$$ even though I want it really badChappy- Its the same as the 210, I will let you know if I encounter anything unusual.
BuilderBill- Yes I have, they break ath the spline that goes in the hub. The CLK430 axles are thicker but have the same spline count so thats no help.
Do you know if there are any broken axles out there to get the dimensions off?
Hold off on the High Torque Capacity NAG1 until you need it, which may be your upcoming race.
Your NAG1 will begin taking forever to shift under load. At that point you WILL need one.
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10-20-2008, 11:34 PM
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Hmmm, I believe I have the tooling for the axles.
Do you know if there are any broken axles out there to get the dimensions off?
Hold off on the High Torque Capacity NAG1 until you need it, which may be your upcoming race.
Your NAG1 will begin taking forever to shift under load. At that point you WILL need one.
Bill
Do you know if there are any broken axles out there to get the dimensions off?
Hold off on the High Torque Capacity NAG1 until you need it, which may be your upcoming race.
Your NAG1 will begin taking forever to shift under load. At that point you WILL need one.
Bill
What do you think the problem could be on the 2-3 shift? I need that taken care of ASAP
10-20-2008, 11:41 PM
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Very bad news on the 2-3 shift.
That is the problematic K2 clutches.....the 1st sign you are in trouble.
Give me or Eddie at Southern Hotrod a call.
It is a matter of time when you add as much power as you have....the NAG1 will last almost forever at stock power, but at high torque, sorry....the paper clutches begin to turn to charcoal.
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10-20-2008, 11:45 PM
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If you can get me a broken set I will get you a set (high strength) at my manufacturing cost.
Very bad news on the 2-3 shift.
That is the problematic K2 clutches.....the 1st sign you are in trouble.
Give me or Eddie at Southern Hotrod a call.
It is a matter of time when you add as much power as you have....the NAG1 will last almost forever at stock power, but at high torque, sorry....the paper clutches begin to turn to charcoal.
Bll
Very bad news on the 2-3 shift.
That is the problematic K2 clutches.....the 1st sign you are in trouble.
Give me or Eddie at Southern Hotrod a call.
It is a matter of time when you add as much power as you have....the NAG1 will last almost forever at stock power, but at high torque, sorry....the paper clutches begin to turn to charcoal.
Bll
10-21-2008, 10:23 AM
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Will do, can you pm me your manufacturing cost? I have one broken one and an intact CLK430 axle (the CLK430 axle is 1.25" thick as opposed to the CLK55 1" thick axles but everything else looks the same). The left and right axles should be the same. You think you can have em done before Nov. 15th? Hook me up on the price with the built NAG1 too! Will modifying the valve body to increase line pressure help fix the shifting problem or do I need the full build?
No problem on getting the NAG1 completed...Call Eddie at Southern Hotrod and ship yours to him. We use Unishippers typically and put $6,000 insurance on them.
I believe you have driven a MB with one of our High Torque capacity NAG1's....yes the shift is more firm but not overly harsh to the point of being objectionable.
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