i want to make my own intake
#2
These dont give you any HP gains at all, its just like have the stock intakes... i would suggest you stick with stock, but here are some examples of cone filters...
CLK430
S500
What most CLK500 and E500 owners are doing, is swapping the stock right air intake for the intake from the S500 because it is less restrictive, see if you right intake has a huge dent in it, if it does, its restricting the flow, but Im not sure how the AMG engines look, this just information from the 500's.
Here's the difference in intakes... they are about 10 bucks for a replacement.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=restriction
Becareful, sometimes you can get malfunction errors etc when doing modifications like this, thats why I wouldnt advise anyone to stick cone filters in their engines, they are practically useless.
CLK430
S500
What most CLK500 and E500 owners are doing, is swapping the stock right air intake for the intake from the S500 because it is less restrictive, see if you right intake has a huge dent in it, if it does, its restricting the flow, but Im not sure how the AMG engines look, this just information from the 500's.
Here's the difference in intakes... they are about 10 bucks for a replacement.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ht=restriction
Becareful, sometimes you can get malfunction errors etc when doing modifications like this, thats why I wouldnt advise anyone to stick cone filters in their engines, they are practically useless.
#3
I have built and tested many different systems. I did not dyno, but tested the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.
The best results came from moving the MAF sensor to the front frame rail and putting the air cleaner under the front bumper.
You could have a heat shield made in the front fender well, but I wanted maximum results.
The throttle response was better as well. I used 3" Aluminum to build the system when my car was N/A.
You can use 3" silicone elbows and connectors and a 3" K&N. If the throttle body is the same as the 01, then a 3" elbow will fit there.
You just have to have a breather bung welded in to go to the valve cover.
All in all it was a consistent .1 to .2 tenths improvement.
I still can not believe how hot that air is in the air box.
I remember it was about 25-30 degrees hotter than the system we built.
The best results came from moving the MAF sensor to the front frame rail and putting the air cleaner under the front bumper.
You could have a heat shield made in the front fender well, but I wanted maximum results.
The throttle response was better as well. I used 3" Aluminum to build the system when my car was N/A.
You can use 3" silicone elbows and connectors and a 3" K&N. If the throttle body is the same as the 01, then a 3" elbow will fit there.
You just have to have a breather bung welded in to go to the valve cover.
All in all it was a consistent .1 to .2 tenths improvement.
I still can not believe how hot that air is in the air box.
I remember it was about 25-30 degrees hotter than the system we built.
#5
Originally posted by sajecw
BTW, I would guess the setups in the pictures would lose HP.
They are sucking in all of the hot air from the engine compartment.
They are basically hot air intake systems.
BTW, I would guess the setups in the pictures would lose HP.
They are sucking in all of the hot air from the engine compartment.
They are basically hot air intake systems.
#6
Originally posted by sajecw
BTW, I would guess the setups in the pictures would lose HP.
They are sucking in all of the hot air from the engine compartment.
They are basically hot air intake systems.
BTW, I would guess the setups in the pictures would lose HP.
They are sucking in all of the hot air from the engine compartment.
They are basically hot air intake systems.
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#9
he says the renntech airbox only adds 13hp. How is this possible if the clk55 airbox supposedly adds 20. Something doesn't add up. Renntech's site claims 23 w/chip and intake, chip alone adds 10hp so intake only adds 13hp?!?!??! Either someone is bsing about the clk55 intake adding 20hp or renntech underestimates their product ALOT! He wants too much for it anyway.
#10
Nobody had dynoed the CLK55 airbox compared to the CLK430 airbox. When I asked the responses were it just did.
I do not believe 20hp.
That is saying that out of the 68hp difference between the CLK55 and CLK430, about 20hp comes from the airbox?
I would estimate 5-13 hp for any good cold intake system. Those are real numbers.
Again, the throttle response was my big difference.
I do not believe 20hp.
That is saying that out of the 68hp difference between the CLK55 and CLK430, about 20hp comes from the airbox?
I would estimate 5-13 hp for any good cold intake system. Those are real numbers.
Again, the throttle response was my big difference.
#11
Remember that the $4000 included ECU tuning as well...
I've considered it, being that it's the least expensive engine mod for the CLK55, but I'm concerned about what will happen if I eventually go with a supercharger. I'm sure that they won't be compatible...
An interesting point about the Renntech airbox/ecu imho. I read that the airbox/ecu raises peak torque by 26 lb/ft to a peak of 402 lb/ft, which I think is pretty respectable. I also noticed that the peak torque is lowered to 3000 rpm versus 4000 rpm with the stocker. I'm curious as to how much torque the stock engine makes at 3000 rpm, being that there's surely even more than a 26 lb/ft gain at that engine speed with the Renntech mod. If the stock engine makes, let's say 15 less lb/ft at 3000 rpm, then you're looking at an actual 41 lb/ft gain!! That would definitely be a noticeable difference. I think it's also convienent that the CLK55 is doing just under 80 mph at 3000 rpm, which is my "average" speed on the interstate. I guess I'm just going to have to think on it for awhile...
Best regards,
Matt
p.s.) Renntech is owned/operated by Hartmut Feyhl, who used to be AMG's technology director for some years, so I have alot of faith in Renntech products...
An interesting point about the Renntech airbox/ecu imho. I read that the airbox/ecu raises peak torque by 26 lb/ft to a peak of 402 lb/ft, which I think is pretty respectable. I also noticed that the peak torque is lowered to 3000 rpm versus 4000 rpm with the stocker. I'm curious as to how much torque the stock engine makes at 3000 rpm, being that there's surely even more than a 26 lb/ft gain at that engine speed with the Renntech mod. If the stock engine makes, let's say 15 less lb/ft at 3000 rpm, then you're looking at an actual 41 lb/ft gain!! That would definitely be a noticeable difference. I think it's also convienent that the CLK55 is doing just under 80 mph at 3000 rpm, which is my "average" speed on the interstate. I guess I'm just going to have to think on it for awhile...
Best regards,
Matt
p.s.) Renntech is owned/operated by Hartmut Feyhl, who used to be AMG's technology director for some years, so I have alot of faith in Renntech products...
Last edited by AMG///Merc; 04-13-2004 at 06:49 PM.
#12
My guess is that the CLK55 airbox doesn't add 20 hp...
Originally posted by blackbenzz
he says the renntech airbox only adds 13hp. How is this possible if the clk55 airbox supposedly adds 20. Something doesn't add up. Renntech's site claims 23 w/chip and intake, chip alone adds 10hp so intake only adds 13hp?!?!??! Either someone is bsing about the clk55 intake adding 20hp or renntech underestimates their product ALOT! He wants too much for it anyway.
he says the renntech airbox only adds 13hp. How is this possible if the clk55 airbox supposedly adds 20. Something doesn't add up. Renntech's site claims 23 w/chip and intake, chip alone adds 10hp so intake only adds 13hp?!?!??! Either someone is bsing about the clk55 intake adding 20hp or renntech underestimates their product ALOT! He wants too much for it anyway.
Best regards,
Matt
* I had my local parts guy compare the parts #'s between the CLK500's intake and exhaust manifolds to the 55's. They were the same number...
#13
I'm talking about the w208 clk430 vs. w208 clk55 because someone had posted that there was an airfilter housing on ebay (for a w208). Sorry for any confusion. Anybody have any dyno numbers to prove the gain? If you do, I'll buy one tomorrow.
#14
Confusion wasn't your fault as it was my mistaken assumption...
Originally posted by blackbenzz
I'm talking about the w208 clk430 vs. w208 clk55 because someone had posted that there was an airfilter housing on ebay (for a w208). Sorry for any confusion. Anybody have any dyno numbers to prove the gain? If you do, I'll buy one tomorrow.
I'm talking about the w208 clk430 vs. w208 clk55 because someone had posted that there was an airfilter housing on ebay (for a w208). Sorry for any confusion. Anybody have any dyno numbers to prove the gain? If you do, I'll buy one tomorrow.
Best regards,
Matt
#17
Re: i want to make my own intake
Originally posted by AMIL
sicne i dont have 4 g's for the renntech airbox anyone have any suggestions? heh
sicne i dont have 4 g's for the renntech airbox anyone have any suggestions? heh
Last edited by clkguy; 04-14-2004 at 12:23 AM.