official clk63 black series base price...
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Not to bash the clk ,it has been a favorite car of mine for years. but for the money the R8 will be far more exotic and AUDI lets YOU shift. Ahh the joy of driving. I know the Automatic MB's are that way because people can not shift fast enough....& 95% of the people (in the states at least) would get it in an Auto format. Why bother making a manual tranny and clutch combo to handle the torque if "no one" will buy it.
BTW... here is the lb. for lb.
r8 =3439 lb
clk63 =4938 lbs
w/ those numbers and the AWD factor...might be close.
BTW... here is the lb. for lb.
r8 =3439 lb
clk63 =4938 lbs
w/ those numbers and the AWD factor...might be close.
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I wonder if the clk63 black will come with the m1 or m2 tranny progams or a close variant. If that's the case then.... I don't think the shifting will be much of an issue. I am told those progams actually make it like a true SMG in shift time.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...but to my eye the R8 is very awkward looking to say the least, while the CLK63 Black is perfectly proportioned and balanced between aggressiveness and elegance.
It would be a good drag race between the two; the MB has more power and torque but it will take a good driver to harness it, while the R8 has 500 fewer pounds, the ability to effectively use all of the power it has with AWD and S-tronic, and I'm sure an aerodynamic advantage.
It would be a good drag race between the two; the MB has more power and torque but it will take a good driver to harness it, while the R8 has 500 fewer pounds, the ability to effectively use all of the power it has with AWD and S-tronic, and I'm sure an aerodynamic advantage.
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...but to my eye the R8 is very awkward looking to say the least, while the CLK63 Black is perfectly proportioned and balanced between aggressiveness and elegance.
It would be a good drag race between the two; the MB has more power and torque but it will take a good driver to harness it, while the R8 has 500 fewer pounds, the ability to effectively use all of the power it has with AWD and S-tronic, and I'm sure an aerodynamic advantage.
It would be a good drag race between the two; the MB has more power and torque but it will take a good driver to harness it, while the R8 has 500 fewer pounds, the ability to effectively use all of the power it has with AWD and S-tronic, and I'm sure an aerodynamic advantage.
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I disagree:0 The only way it will be worth half is if they announce they are mass producing it for next year. If they keep it exclusive and only send over 100-200 cars each year, the value should hold.
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Not saying the CLK Black is a CLK DTM but the DTM seems to be holding its value very well at the 100 unit mark.
A couple of years ago you could purchase and drive an E55 or CLS55 for 5K miles and only take a small hit.
This is all supply and demand. Too many cars and people wanting to pay less for the used ones.
Just remember, if we pay less than MSRP for the car, you can expect the resale to be down......
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Schiznick- The 350 is worldwide and only 150 are slated for the US
Which is a good thing for value... We'll see what happens. I figure if I enjoy the car thats all that really matters.
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E 63S Wagon Renntech, E55 Renntech, SL65, SL 55 030, ML, bunch of old ones--they come, they go...
Couple things...
I can't be sure, but I do think the production of the 63B will be limited, simply because MB is unsure of how many they can sell. I have a close relationship with my dealer principal, and I told him I wanted a car, if it was close to a 6 figure number or just slightly over. Out zone includes atlanta, a strong marketplace, and I believe there are going to be three cars in our zone (which has 8 dealers). But the feeling I get is that the price is not going to be at the $130 number you guys are mentioning. I think it's going to be closer to 100. It seems there is some resistance at 130 that there might not be at 104 for example. And at 130, cool as it is, I"m out. I guess we'll see. I think they really wanted to judge the reaction and potential demand before release.
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The AMG Private Lounge says 350 units for the US.
It looks like 10 will be allocated to Private Lounge members directly.
As for a price of 100K, not a chance. With the CLK63 Cab in the 90's.
The internal Mercedes memo floating around here says 135K, I would tend to believe this.
If your dealer is telling you less they may be less than informed.
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It looks like 10 will be allocated to Private Lounge members directly.
As for a price of 100K, not a chance. With the CLK63 Cab in the 90's.
The internal Mercedes memo floating around here says 135K, I would tend to believe this.
If your dealer is telling you less they may be less than informed.
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E 63S Wagon Renntech, E55 Renntech, SL65, SL 55 030, ML, bunch of old ones--they come, they go...
Perhaps, but I'm only relaying....
what the zone rep told us. I was listening on the speaker phone. And the CLK 63 cab ain't exactly setting the world on fire in the high 80's. Every dealer I know or work with would happily sell their CLK63 cab--if they got stuck with one--at triple net, or a little loss.
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The AMG Private Lounge says 350 units for the US.
It looks like 10 will be allocated to Private Lounge members directly.
As for a price of 100K, not a chance. With the CLK63 Cab in the 90's.
The internal Mercedes memo floating around here says 135K, I would tend to believe this.
If your dealer is telling you less they may be less than informed.
Schiz
It looks like 10 will be allocated to Private Lounge members directly.
As for a price of 100K, not a chance. With the CLK63 Cab in the 90's.
The internal Mercedes memo floating around here says 135K, I would tend to believe this.
If your dealer is telling you less they may be less than informed.
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While I'm sure "in a year, a used one will be 1/2 price" is an exaggeration, I wouldn't count on the car holding its value well, regardless of volume, with a new CLK just around the corner...
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Have you seen how ugly the new cars look
This will be the last MB for me if the looks continue in the direction they are headed. As for the 150 cars, that's what the dealers have been sent in a memo. The 350# is Worldwide.
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Personally, I think the latest MBs...the SLK-, CLS-, S-, and CL-class cars...look great. The R- and ML-class trucks look fine for what they are. The facelifted E- and upcoming SL-class are very subtle. The upcoming C-class is inoffensive, as it has always been.
Besides, BMW has completely destroyed its line-up, and people are still buying them. I'm not concerned about the next CLK.
Besides, BMW has completely destroyed its line-up, and people are still buying them. I'm not concerned about the next CLK.
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E 63S Wagon Renntech, E55 Renntech, SL65, SL 55 030, ML, bunch of old ones--they come, they go...
Well, I'm driving one of those "dstroyed" BMW's...
and it ain't because of the looks. It is because of the driving dynamics, which on just about every late model Benz, are absolutely awful. Numb steering, that silly airmatic ride that is either a marshmellow or a brick,lazy transmissions and the tremendous decline in build quality and raw materials are what's keeping me away. Oh, and did I mention the resale? I'm only betting/hoping that a car of the CLK63B's mettle will sway me back. BTW, third generation MB customer. They proved to me that they don't ned or care about me, so I'm back to Munich for a while. And loving the late 5 series cars, no matter how ugly many of you think they are.
That has little or nothing to do with the CLK63B price does it? Sorry.
That has little or nothing to do with the CLK63B price does it? Sorry.
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That info is as of 4/24/07.
As far as your comment as ugly,
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And my comment was in reference to CLK pricing; we were discussing re-sale, and my opinion that the next CLK will not be bad looking if the current model line is any indication.