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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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The Next Black Series - SLC63

According to regional MB guys, the next BS car will be a reprise of the old SLC theme, a two place coupe with a fixed roof based upon the SL. The roof will be carbon fiber, there will be huge aero diffusers in the back, and a fully tuned 6.3 normally aspirated motor developing 650 HP and 800 Ft Lbs., 250 will be made and they will cost $250K. Performance equal to an SLR for 1/2 the price was the quote. Coming as a '10 model in '09. They have seen the prototype.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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Interesting rumors...

Though not clear how a NA63 motor can generate 800lb-ft.....

Doubt it's a CY09 launch, given all the "leaked" spy pics all over the Net....would suspect mid-CY08....

Suspect Ferrari's mid-CY08 launch Dino has both AMG and Porsche scurrying to revamp SL63 and 997TT ahead of original plans to face the onslaught....

Published rumors are that F plans to sell ?5-10K/yr Dinos at some ?$175-200K (and F is setting up a leasing arm in US to mainstream their cars' leasing options)....both AMG and P will struggle w/how to price/lease their cars vs an entry-lvl F priced within a few dollars of loaded 997TT or SL63BS....and market vs the brand cachet and typically less steep depreciation costs of F, as opposed to AMG/P....will be fun to watch the competition unfold and enjoy the more "efficient" choices as a consumer.....
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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The SLC or Black Series will have a twin turbo V8.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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"Doubt it's a CY09 launch, given all the "leaked" spy pics all over the Net....would suspect mid-CY08...."

I suspect it will take an extra year or so to rewrite laws of physics to get 800 ft. lbs. from that N/A engine.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by WSH
Interesting rumors...

Though not clear how a NA63 motor can generate 800lb-ft.....

Doubt it's a CY09 launch, given all the "leaked" spy pics all over the Net....would suspect mid-CY08....

Suspect Ferrari's mid-CY08 launch Dino has both AMG and Porsche scurrying to revamp SL63 and 997TT ahead of original plans to face the onslaught....

Published rumors are that F plans to sell ?5-10K/yr Dinos at some ?$175-200K (and F is setting up a leasing arm in US to mainstream their cars' leasing options)....both AMG and P will struggle w/how to price/lease their cars vs an entry-lvl F priced within a few dollars of loaded 997TT or SL63BS....and market vs the brand cachet and typically less steep depreciation costs of F, as opposed to AMG/P....will be fun to watch the competition unfold and enjoy the more "efficient" choices as a consumer.....
5-10k a year at $175k & up for new F car. That is one ambitious marketing guy. Just build em on one of the Fiat lines and they will come. I doubt it. With historic Itialian quality this will be a tough market to crack at 1/3 those numbers.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jgerken
According to regional MB guys, the next BS car will be a reprise of the old SLC theme, a two place coupe with a fixed roof based upon the SL. The roof will be carbon fiber, there will be huge aero diffusers in the back, and a fully tuned 6.3 normally aspirated motor developing 650 HP and 800 Ft Lbs., 250 will be made and they will cost $250K. Performance equal to an SLR for 1/2 the price was the quote. Coming as a '10 model in '09. They have seen the prototype.
Interesting. Such a car would likely be labeled a Signature Series car though. I can see 650hp out of the n/a 6.2L, but no way on the torque figure given here, 800lb-ft. Turbos would be the only way to do that. Still though if these numbers hold up that means the end of the SLR.

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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October 3 issue of UK Auto Car had a write up on the new Black Series/SLC. The info was that initially they were going to use 6.3 V8 massaged up to 600hp that revs up to 8200rpm. Now they are leaning towards a V8 twin turbo producing 700 hp and over 700lbs torque mated to a 7 speed auto trans(if the trans can hold up) Would like to see a DSG trans.
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