110 Octane Unleaded NOW AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY EVERYWHERE
11-27-2007, 07:26 PM
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110 Octane Unleaded NOW AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY EVERYWHERE
110 Motoring has 110 fuel (actually 109) Unleaded Octane available for purchase and fill-up at our location. This 110 fuel has a potential of up to a 14% increase in power.
Also for vehicle's with no catalytic converters we have oxygenated fuel for "off-road" use only.
Also for vehicle's with no catalytic converters we have oxygenated fuel for "off-road" use only.
11-27-2007, 08:22 PM
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It is actually 109 unleaded ...but very close to 110
and we initially were told that it was 110...that is what our name is based off of.
The fuel company we are distributing for is VP Racing Fuels
and we initially were told that it was 110...that is what our name is based off of.
The fuel company we are distributing for is VP Racing Fuels
11-27-2007, 08:40 PM
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[QUOTE=110motoring;2524477]This 110 fuel has a potential of up to a 14% increase in power.QUOTE]
Dream on !!!!!!! No power increase what so ever unless you up the boost. Higher octane will help prevent detonation so you can up the boost or advance the timing to make more power. If you just add the higher octane without doing anything else, it won't give you any hp gain.
Dream on !!!!!!! No power increase what so ever unless you up the boost. Higher octane will help prevent detonation so you can up the boost or advance the timing to make more power. If you just add the higher octane without doing anything else, it won't give you any hp gain.
11-27-2007, 08:43 PM
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[QUOTE=Clk&Slk;2524640]
It depends on what is done to your motor and each car is different that is why I said UP TO 14%. But even with a stock car and stock computer you will have an increase in power.
This 110 fuel has a potential of up to a 14% increase in power.QUOTE]
Dream on !!!!!!! No power increase what so ever unless you up the boost. Higher octane will help prevent detonation so you can up the boost or advance the timing to make more power. If you just add the higher octane without doing anything else, it won't give you any hp gain.
Dream on !!!!!!! No power increase what so ever unless you up the boost. Higher octane will help prevent detonation so you can up the boost or advance the timing to make more power. If you just add the higher octane without doing anything else, it won't give you any hp gain.
11-27-2007, 10:39 PM
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Jeff,
Since you are very close to me. I might just give you my business on VP Race Fuel. I have to sources on where i get this and i normally buy the 5 gallon VP MS109 canister. Give me your best price or PM me and i'll probably just buy this from you depending on your price.
Thanks
Since you are very close to me. I might just give you my business on VP Race Fuel. I have to sources on where i get this and i normally buy the 5 gallon VP MS109 canister. Give me your best price or PM me and i'll probably just buy this from you depending on your price.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Clk&Slk;2524640]
Yes, it will. Especially if you have forced induction. Normally aspirated motors will not see as much, but, the computer will adjust for increased octane, advance timing and you will see some increase in hp. How much remains to be seen.
This 110 fuel has a potential of up to a 14% increase in power.QUOTE]
Dream on !!!!!!! No power increase what so ever unless you up the boost. Higher octane will help prevent detonation so you can up the boost or advance the timing to make more power. If you just add the higher octane without doing anything else, it won't give you any hp gain.
Dream on !!!!!!! No power increase what so ever unless you up the boost. Higher octane will help prevent detonation so you can up the boost or advance the timing to make more power. If you just add the higher octane without doing anything else, it won't give you any hp gain.
Yes, it will. Especially if you have forced induction. Normally aspirated motors will not see as much, but, the computer will adjust for increased octane, advance timing and you will see some increase in hp. How much remains to be seen.
11-28-2007, 01:52 PM
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This is what I used to think and it very true in alot of cars (even on my Civic just from going 87-91) but not so true on Mercedes cars. I've dyno it on stock cars, with sc pulley upgrade, with C55, CL55 with aftermarket HPS sc. We dyno the C55 w'HPS sc then added 109 octane fuel and ran it a couple times but show no gain. Like I said before, the benefit after adding the higher octane is when you up the boost or timing. If the ECU on Mercedes were design to automatic advantage the timing by itself base on the higher fuel octance then why Mercedes engineer have the need to put 3 differences octane and timing setting option in the ECU that you need to choose when run higher octane?
This is what I used to think and it very true in alot of cars (even on my Civic just from going 87-91) but not so true on Mercedes cars. I've dyno it on stock cars, with sc pulley upgrade, with C55, CL55 with aftermarket HPS sc. We dyno the C55 w'HPS sc then added 109 octane fuel and ran it a couple times but show no gain. Like I said before, the benefit after adding the higher octane is when you up the boost or timing. If the ECU on Mercedes were design to automatic advantage the timing by itself base on the higher fuel octance then why Mercedes engineer have the need to put 3 differences octane and timing setting option in the ECU that you need to choose when run higher octane?
11-28-2007, 04:00 PM
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[QUOTE=LZH;2525805]True for me. When kleemann dyno'ed my car they said i got about a 15-17hp increase. Looking for the dyno but can't seem to find it.
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My C32 Stage 2 gained 12 hp on the dyno just from running 100 unleaded as opposed to 91 unleaded with same exact ECU. The runs were done at the same time, but one day apart on the same dyno and same operator, so the temperature (and weather in general) was almost identical. I had Evo Stage 2 ECU by Powerchip, and the ECU some how adjusted itself to run a little stronger when I replaced the 91 with 100 octane 
11-28-2007, 07:36 PM
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I think on normally aspirated cars, if the ECU program/compression/timing result in preignition (ping), which is internally sensed, then the ecu retards timing. In that case, higher octane inhibits preignition, and allows for more horsepower.
That is more common on boosted engines, which invariably come with lowered compression to combat preignition. My guess is that the bigget gains will come on an aftermarket turbo or superchargert kit, when piston domes are not changed. AS
That is more common on boosted engines, which invariably come with lowered compression to combat preignition. My guess is that the bigget gains will come on an aftermarket turbo or superchargert kit, when piston domes are not changed. AS
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I think on normally aspirated cars, if the ECU program/compression/timing result in preignition (ping), which is internally sensed, then the ecu retards timing. In that case, higher octane inhibits preignition, and allows for more horsepower.
That is more common on boosted engines, which invariably come with lowered compression to combat preignition. My guess is that the bigget gains will come on an aftermarket turbo or superchargert kit, when piston domes are not changed. AS
That is more common on boosted engines, which invariably come with lowered compression to combat preignition. My guess is that the bigget gains will come on an aftermarket turbo or superchargert kit, when piston domes are not changed. AS
12-17-2007, 05:41 PM
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Finally, here's our pricing:
A. 100 unleaded is $9/gallon
B. 109 unleaded is $11.50/gallon
C. U4.2 leaded is $15/gallon
Shipping options are handled on an individual basis, please call Jeff for info.
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We have VP Racing Fuel, which is better than any Sunoco or Conoco(76) blend of racing fuel. All information provided below can also be found on their website:
vpracingfuels.com
A. MS100 StreetBlaze 100. Oxygenated with ethanol, this CARB-legal fuel is specifically engineered for high-performance street cars including sport compacts, muscle cars, street rods and more. It's environmentally friendly and street legal throughout the U.S. In applications with anything from 4- to 12-cyclinders or engines equipped with a turbocharger, supercharger or nitrous oxide system (NOS), StreetBlaze 100 will generate optimum power and performance. In turbocharged or supercharged applications, it allows an increase in boost without fear of detonation. NOS users can also leverage their higher octane ratings to step up to a more powerful nitrous oxide system. Dyno tests with a turbocharged application proved StreetBlaze100 generates up to 14% more horsepower compared to premium grade 91 octane unleaded gasoline. Designed for use in cast-iron head engines with CRs up to 13:1 and aluminum head engines up to 14:1. Works well on the latest generation of electronically-controlled turbo engines. Contains no metal compounds and won't harm catalytic converters or oxygen sensors.
• Color: Orange
• Oxygenated: Yes
• Motor Octane: 96
• R+M/2: 100
• Specific Gravity: .746 at 60° F
B. MS109 Motorsport 109 unleaded. Produces more power than any other unleaded fuel. Recommended for higher boost applications with CRs up to 11:1 or naturally aspirated engines up to 13:1.
• Color: Clear
• Motor Octane: 101
• R+M/2: 105
• Research Octane: 109
• Oxygenated: Yes
• Specific Gravity: .722 at 60° F
C. NEW! U4.2 The latest generation of VP's U4 based fuels, this fuel is a direct pour-in replacement for U4 with little to no jetting changes required - +2 main jets and +2 pilot jets at the most. Makes power equivalent to U4 with no sticky residue and a less pungent odor. U4.2 passes AMA amateur fuel rules and is perfect for club level racing, CCS, WERA and AFM. U4.2 makes up to 6% more power than pump gas.
• Color: Blue
• Oxygenated: Yes
• Motor Octane: 102
• Specific Gravity: .784 at 60° F
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A. 100 unleaded is $9/gallon
B. 109 unleaded is $11.50/gallon
C. U4.2 leaded is $15/gallon
Shipping options are handled on an individual basis, please call Jeff for info.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We have VP Racing Fuel, which is better than any Sunoco or Conoco(76) blend of racing fuel. All information provided below can also be found on their website:
vpracingfuels.com
A. MS100 StreetBlaze 100. Oxygenated with ethanol, this CARB-legal fuel is specifically engineered for high-performance street cars including sport compacts, muscle cars, street rods and more. It's environmentally friendly and street legal throughout the U.S. In applications with anything from 4- to 12-cyclinders or engines equipped with a turbocharger, supercharger or nitrous oxide system (NOS), StreetBlaze 100 will generate optimum power and performance. In turbocharged or supercharged applications, it allows an increase in boost without fear of detonation. NOS users can also leverage their higher octane ratings to step up to a more powerful nitrous oxide system. Dyno tests with a turbocharged application proved StreetBlaze100 generates up to 14% more horsepower compared to premium grade 91 octane unleaded gasoline. Designed for use in cast-iron head engines with CRs up to 13:1 and aluminum head engines up to 14:1. Works well on the latest generation of electronically-controlled turbo engines. Contains no metal compounds and won't harm catalytic converters or oxygen sensors.
• Color: Orange
• Oxygenated: Yes
• Motor Octane: 96
• R+M/2: 100
• Specific Gravity: .746 at 60° F
B. MS109 Motorsport 109 unleaded. Produces more power than any other unleaded fuel. Recommended for higher boost applications with CRs up to 11:1 or naturally aspirated engines up to 13:1.
• Color: Clear
• Motor Octane: 101
• R+M/2: 105
• Research Octane: 109
• Oxygenated: Yes
• Specific Gravity: .722 at 60° F
C. NEW! U4.2 The latest generation of VP's U4 based fuels, this fuel is a direct pour-in replacement for U4 with little to no jetting changes required - +2 main jets and +2 pilot jets at the most. Makes power equivalent to U4 with no sticky residue and a less pungent odor. U4.2 passes AMA amateur fuel rules and is perfect for club level racing, CCS, WERA and AFM. U4.2 makes up to 6% more power than pump gas.
• Color: Blue
• Oxygenated: Yes
• Motor Octane: 102
• Specific Gravity: .784 at 60° F
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12-17-2007, 06:16 PM
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