SL65 Black Series M$RP announced with photo
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[QUOTE=jrcart;2934554]Can anyone find a side profile pic of an ordinary 2009 AMG SL 63? In the side view above the nose on the BS looks like it is sticking out a good 4-5 inches further than a standard SL. Do they have dimensions listed for both vehicles anywhere? Does anyone else see what I am talking about or am I nuts?
You are right, all 12 cyl. SL's are a couple of inches longer in the front to fit the engine. SL 65 BS is based on SL 65 platform, not SL 63.
You are right, all 12 cyl. SL's are a couple of inches longer in the front to fit the engine. SL 65 BS is based on SL 65 platform, not SL 63.
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Now I have heard everything.... Where in the world did you hear this?
The SL65 and SL63 are the same length. The 65 is NOT a couple of inches longer. The engine is tight but it fits just fine......
That doesn't answer the original question because the Black series clearly has a different front end. Has anyone found a web site for the SL Black yet?
Where does this stuff come from?
Can anyone find a side profile pic of an ordinary 2009 AMG SL 63? In the side view above the nose on the BS looks like it is sticking out a good 4-5 inches further than a standard SL. Do they have dimensions listed for both vehicles anywhere? Does anyone else see what I am talking about or am I nuts?
You are right, all 12 cyl. SL's are a couple of inches longer in the front to fit the engine. SL 65 BS is based on SL 65 platform, not SL 63.
You are right, all 12 cyl. SL's are a couple of inches longer in the front to fit the engine. SL 65 BS is based on SL 65 platform, not SL 63.
The SL65 and SL63 are the same length. The 65 is NOT a couple of inches longer. The engine is tight but it fits just fine......
That doesn't answer the original question because the Black series clearly has a different front end. Has anyone found a web site for the SL Black yet?
Where does this stuff come from?
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on this rep. since Brembo is AMGs main supplier of brakes, apparently this dude does not know what he is talking about. Look at my slotted and cross drilled (030) brakes (supplied by Brembo):
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Can anyone find a side profile pic of an ordinary 2009 AMG SL 63? In the side view above the nose on the BS looks like it is sticking out a good 4-5 inches further than a standard SL. Do they have dimensions listed for both vehicles anywhere? Does anyone else see what I am talking about or am I nuts?
One more thing, which wing/spioler is going to be used or offered on U.S production models?
One more thing, which wing/spioler is going to be used or offered on U.S production models?
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Now I have heard everything.... Where in the world did you hear this?
The SL65 and SL63 are the same length. The 65 is NOT a couple of inches longer. The engine is tight but it fits just fine......
That doesn't answer the original question because the Black series clearly has a different front end. Has anyone found a web site for the SL Black yet?
Where does this stuff come from?
I don't hear things, I usualy read and learn that way. Now if you would go onto mbusa and compare wheelbase of SL 63 and SL 65 it's the same: 100.8". But if you look at overall length, SL 63 is 178.5" and SL 65 is 181.3". Now I'm very sorry I said a couple of inches, it's in fact almost 3 inches. Well, nobody is perfect....
Now I have heard everything.... Where in the world did you hear this?
The SL65 and SL63 are the same length. The 65 is NOT a couple of inches longer. The engine is tight but it fits just fine......
That doesn't answer the original question because the Black series clearly has a different front end. Has anyone found a web site for the SL Black yet?
Where does this stuff come from?
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Yes, you are correct, I just checked it out myself, thanks for the info...and I am glad to know that my eyes were not deceiving me, it really is longer.
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One more question; Why do they even bother speed limiting the car to 199mph? The only possible things I can think of is tire speed ratings or M-B does not want to out do their own SLR supercar? I mean do they think 199mph is any safer than 215mph? I am under the impression that there are street legal DOT approved tires speed rated at up to 240mph. These top speed limits really make me laugh.
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Guys, just spoke with my dealership, again, they claim the price is going to be $191,500 plus gas guzzler. Not sure where they came up with this figure, but claimed it to be accurate and asked if I wanted to step up to the plate.
$320,000 sounded too high to me, but now $191,000 sounds too low.
$320,000 sounded too high to me, but now $191,000 sounds too low.
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The SL65 BS is almost 3 inches longer than the SL63, not the regular SL65 (which is the exact same length). The extra three inches come from the extra extentions of both the front splitter and the rear spoier.
The hood of the BS is indeed [what seems like] an inch lower than the facelifted SL hood. This is because the BS is exempt from EU pedestrian/hood requirements due to its limited volume. This must assist immensely with the drag coefficient and higher speed aerodynamics.
Speeds above 199 are for bragging rights and I would assume are not [frequently] reachable in US or even EU autobahns. And, unlike someone suggested above, 220 is much more dangerous than 199mph. The marginal risk is far higher than proportional differences between these speeds. Remember than the marginal stress the tires submit to in order to squeze each additional mile is cubed [not entirely sure exactly, but it is exponential nonetheless] to the marginal speed gained.
The hood of the BS is indeed [what seems like] an inch lower than the facelifted SL hood. This is because the BS is exempt from EU pedestrian/hood requirements due to its limited volume. This must assist immensely with the drag coefficient and higher speed aerodynamics.
Speeds above 199 are for bragging rights and I would assume are not [frequently] reachable in US or even EU autobahns. And, unlike someone suggested above, 220 is much more dangerous than 199mph. The marginal risk is far higher than proportional differences between these speeds. Remember than the marginal stress the tires submit to in order to squeze each additional mile is cubed [not entirely sure exactly, but it is exponential nonetheless] to the marginal speed gained.
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the $191k price above seems bogus. The BS cannot be cheaper than the regular version. Yes, you give away a retractable top, but actual cost of manufacturing the BS must be much higher (CF bits) thus commanding a higher price.
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For that kind of money, I'd rather have a pre-owned SLR: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...3756.m14.l1318
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Guys, just spoke with my dealership, again, they claim the price is going to be $191,500 plus gas guzzler. Not sure where they came up with this figure, but claimed it to be accurate and asked if I wanted to step up to the plate.
$320,000 sounded too high to me, but now $191,000 sounds too low.
$320,000 sounded too high to me, but now $191,000 sounds too low.
I love the SL black, but after viewing for some time doesn't it KINDA look like an SLR (front bumper) a new GT 500 Mustang (fender flares) & obvious current 2003-2009 SL had a bastar*d love child
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Guys, just spoke with my dealership, again, they claim the price is going to be $191,500 plus gas guzzler. Not sure where they came up with this figure, but claimed it to be accurate and asked if I wanted to step up to the plate.
$320,000 sounded too high to me, but now $191,000 sounds too low.
$320,000 sounded too high to me, but now $191,000 sounds too low.
I agree less than $200k no way. The fixed roof in carbon fiber with engineering will add at least 50k to a normal SL65. No mention of an triangulated chassis. Hope your dealer is right at $191,000 I'm a buyer.
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Ya, sounds too good to be true, at that price point it would be bargain. I second guessed, third guessed and even fourth guessed that price. Not sure where he got it but he e-mailed me a bunch of M-B info on the car along with the official allocation information e-mail sent out to all dealerships. Lots of color options, there are several more choices than on the CLK BS, two blacks, two silvers, a grey, red, and white Production is going to begin on August 29, first North American deliveries will not be until early Jan 2009. I told him to check into that figure and let me know ASAP and if that is indeed the case to put my name on the first one. He said I will hear back tomorrow.
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One more thing....Remember back when I was a newbie on here and I told all you guys about the new upcoming SL 65 BS and you all (well most of you) said I was nuts, and then word broke about it but you all insisted it was a SL63BS? I also believe I stated they were not going to be using any variation of the 7speed auto tranny....I also mentioned that they were looking at a 6 or 7 speed manual tranny. Well my info was correct on the 7speed auto, but I wonder where M-B will be using that 7 speed manual? Things that make you go hmmmm. Do you think they have plans for Lemanns or some sort of sports car racing with this thing?
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A local MB dealer is selling a brand new SL65 for $194K, so whoever thinks the SL BS is selling at that price must be smoking crack. I also had word from someone working in MBUSA stating the car would cost somewhere south of $300K, but MBUSA hadn't decided/announced final numbers yet. I'm keeping my fingers crossed as we speak, and one thing for sure, I'm still game if MSRP is somewhere around $260K.
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I don't hear things, I usualy read and learn that way. Now if you would go onto mbusa and compare wheelbase of SL 63 and SL 65 it's the same: 100.8". But if you look at overall length, SL 63 is 178.5" and SL 65 is 181.3". Now I'm very sorry I said a couple of inches, it's in fact almost 3 inches. Well, nobody is perfect....
I hate to tell you but the good folks at the AMG website seem to think differently.
Wheelbase 2560
Overall length 4605
For both the SL63 and SL65.
Cheers!
I don't hear things, I usualy read and learn that way. Now if you would go onto mbusa and compare wheelbase of SL 63 and SL 65 it's the same: 100.8". But if you look at overall length, SL 63 is 178.5" and SL 65 is 181.3". Now I'm very sorry I said a couple of inches, it's in fact almost 3 inches. Well, nobody is perfect....
Wheelbase 2560
Overall length 4605
For both the SL63 and SL65.
Cheers!
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I definitely believe it will be over $300,000. My brother was looking at an 2008 40th year Anniversary Edition CL 65 and the sticker on that car was $295,000! I know they only made 40 of them but other than the carbon fiber interior,diffuser, and the liquid metal paint it is the same exact car as a regular Cl 65 for a mere $100,000 more.
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I can see that you take your screen name very serious 
. Now put some weight behind it and buy a SL 65 BS 
. But knowing you, you probably already dictated to AMG that you have to have the first one that comes to this country.
. Now put some weight behind it and buy a SL 65 BS . But knowing you, you probably already dictated to AMG that you have to have the first one that comes to this country.
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