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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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I think I found a video of our BMW challenger out having a good time in daddy's sedan -

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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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So what does that make a stock E46 M3???

Btw, in a 1/4 mile race ET matters more than the trap speed
True, but if u read what he posted, he said he wants to do a 55-155 roll. So trap speed will determine the outcome of that.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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Can I come out to Cali and whoop up on you and your M3? Don't tempt me, I have been itching for another trip to Cali...Name you price b_itch! Do you want to race my Black Series? I love schooling little punk b_itches like you.

You guys must have some good reefer connections over there on the M3 Forums, because it seems like you are all HIGH!
Haha, funny guy. First, u arent beating me with 502whp, laughable. And i never said i could beat a modded BS dumbass. I said i would smoke a stock BS. Like the guy called out saying is STOCK BS would beat a sce46m3 i thought that was funny. Maybe a dinan SC cuz if u are buying a dinan blower u dont know what u are really doing anyways. Funny how guys like u threaten and talk smack over the internet. U dont even know anything about me, so maybe u are the little punk kid. But then again i wouldnt know.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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A good friend of mine is a BMW nut. He's got 4 E30's (2 full race), an E36, E90, E92 and a blown E46.
His E46 is very nice, blower, headers, tuning lighweight wheels and HUGE Brembo brakes, PSS10's, etc. The car is very well sorted out, agile, quick and very fun to drive - He and I ran together for a little fun one day - me in my Black Series...He could stay close to me in the twisties but as soon as there was any sort of straightaway I was gone. As this progressed, I would pull further and further away until I could no longer see him and had to slow down. He and I are pretty equal drivers too. So, that gives you a good idea of how a blown E46 compares to a stock Black Series.

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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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A good friend of mine is a BMW nut. He's got 4 E30's (2 full race), an E36, E90, E92 and a blown E46.
His E46 is very nice, blower, headers, tuning lighweight wheels and HUGE Brembo brakes - He and I ran together for a little fun one day - me in my Black Series...He could stay close to me in the twisties but as soon as there was any sort of straightaway I was gone. As this progressed, I would pull further and further away until I could no longer see him and had to slow down. He and I are pretty equal drivers too. So, that gives you a good idea of how a blown E46 compares to a stock Black Series.
You must be running stage 1 Sc'ers or something. A stock BS doesnt even hit 120mph trap speeds. And if u compare that to a healthy running, SC these days. The trap speeds are in the 120's? Has anyone on this board been to the track in a stock BS so we can get a baseline idea here, instead of going off of what top gear, says there ET and trap are.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SCe46M3
You must be running stage 1 Sc'ers or something. A stock BS doesnt even hit 120mph trap speeds. And if u compare that to a healthy running, SC these days. The trap speeds are in the 120's? Has anyone on this board been to the track in a stock BS so we can get a baseline idea here, instead of going off of what top gear, says there ET and trap are.
Not sure about his blower - he said he was making something like 450hp. Furthermore, I have absolutly no interest in any discussion regarding trap speeds or drag strips - neither the M3 or the Black Series were built as straight line drag cars.

EDIT - Spoke to my buddy. He has an Active Autoworks blower and ~500hp at the flywheel. I've driven it a few times and it is very quick, but no match for the Black Series.

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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SCe46M3
True, but if u read what he posted, he said he wants to do a 55-155 roll. So trap speed will determine the outcome of that.
I'm just fueling the fire

Stock 63's have trapped 118.x in the 1/4
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 10:03 PM
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Haha, funny guy. First, u arent beating me with 502whp, laughable. And i never said i could beat a modded BS dumbass. I said i would smoke a stock BS. Like the guy called out saying is STOCK BS would beat a sce46m3 i thought that was funny. Maybe a dinan SC cuz if u are buying a dinan blower u dont know what u are really doing anyways. Funny how douchebags like u threaten and talk smack over the internet. U dont even know anything about me, so maybe u are the little punk kid. But then again i wouldnt know.
Who the hell are you???? I have only been addressing Jest and DMJ187...or is that you? Do yoyu have lots of Phantom screen names? "Douchbags like me that talk smack over the internet"??? You guys are the one who came over here from some BMW Forum and are starting trouble with us. So I suggest you take your bad attitude and your car back to whichever forum you came from because the rest of us don't care what you think or how fast you car is...I don't care if you have an M3 that can run flat 10.0's, at the end of the day it is still just a dime a dozen E46 M3, I have one in my garage too!
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by LZH
Not sure about his blower - he said he was making something like 450hp. Furthermore, I have absolutly no interest in any discussion regarding trap speeds or drag strips - neither the M3 or the Black Series were built as straight line drag cars.

EDIT - Spoke to my buddy. He has an Active Autoworks blower and ~500hp at the flywheel. I've driven it a few times and it is very quick, but no match for the Black Series.
MACH5 ran a 12.115 @ 118.70 mph in his bone stock Black Series. The best I could manage when stock was 12.21 @ 116.90mph. I have not had good conditions yet with my modded Black Series, my best E/T is 12.19 But trapped in the high 119 mph range with a 40 mph diagonal headwind. My car should easily trap in the low 120's with the Corsas and mid 120's with the Mickey Thompsons. I am attempting to go to the strip this coming tuesday night, I'll let you know what I do.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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It's not on the car yet, but a small kit is coming. Nothing too over the top, the car has serious traction issues in it's currrent state of tune, I am hoping the addition of the new Mickey Thompsons allow for use of a 50-100shot of NOS.

As for the challenger with the M3, I assume he is full of bull sh_t, he won't tell anyone what he has done to his M3...like he owns some top secret BMW prototype super M3 or something. All my mods are out there for the whole world to see...hell there is an enitre thread of the build-up of my car. He can see my dyno numbers and every single mod made, yet he can not man up and say what he has done to his car. My guess is he's full of hot air, might not even own an M3.
I am thinking NOS will be my next move. My little C32 has run a best of 13.60 at 103. Sounds slow but at 4400 ft elevation it is a respectable time. Props for having the cahones to spray a Black Series
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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I was talking with Evosport about doing a NOS kit when they did my other work last winter, but I decided to hold off and see what we got with the extra 100 or so rwhp they delivered. I wanted to see if the car could handle the extra power and not be breaking stuff. Now that I see the car is capable of handling the power and I have a set of drag slicks the next logical step is some NOS. I have been talking with a local shop that does a lot of NOS on full blown drag racers, but he also has a section of his shop that caters to higher end luxo cars and has done NOS on everything from M3's to a F360. He owns a Bentley Flying Spur with NOS that runs high 11's...pretty crazy stuff. They do great work and is only minutes away from my house.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 10:50 PM
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MACH5 ran a 12.115 @ 118.70 mph in his bone stock Black Series. The best I could manage when stock was 12.21 @ 116.90mph. I have not had good conditions yet with my modded Black Series, my best E/T is 12.19 But trapped in the high 119 mph range with a 40 mph diagonal headwind. My car should easily trap in the low 120's with the Corsas and mid 120's with the Mickey Thompsons. I am attempting to go to the strip this coming tuesday night, I'll let you know what I do.
That is a good time. Sounds like u will hit 11's no problem given the right conditions and tires. The Tires wont help your trap speed, but u should get a good ET out of it.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jrcart
MACH5 ran a 12.115 @ 118.70 mph in his bone stock Black Series. The best I could manage when stock was 12.21 @ 116.90mph. I have not had good conditions yet with my modded Black Series, my best E/T is 12.19 But trapped in the high 119 mph range with a 40 mph diagonal headwind. My car should easily trap in the low 120's with the Corsas and mid 120's with the Mickey Thompsons. I am attempting to go to the strip this coming tuesday night, I'll let you know what I do.
Jim,
Let us know your drag times. The BMW's that post on drag times show about 11.8 at 120 with superchargers. 450-500 hp in a 3400 lbs car is still less than your BS in the power to weight. BTW, I'll run the fool with the BMW on a road race track (Willow Springs) I'm in SoCal. Five laps, the S/C bimmers go into major heat sink after two lap, especially with a 12:1 compression on a hot day. Max boost is about 6lbs and without good fuel and on a hot day they turn into a nickel rocket. I see it all the time, puking their internals all all over the asphalt. It gets even better when they spray, they last about one lap.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 01:13 AM
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SCe46M3
That is a good time. Sounds like u will hit 11's no problem given the right conditions and tires. The Tires wont help your trap speed, but u should get a good ET out of it.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 10:44 AM
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Do you guys realize this post started from a 22yr. old newbie who was posting about a car that he doesn't even have yet?

I mean we are a select few but did you guys see the myspace?
Oh boy

I welcome him and all but these is just the kind of guy that we jump all over that inhabit the M3 BMW forums.

Look at the nonsense this has created. It obv. started from some sort of post he made over there and thats why all these BMW guys are here now running amok on our board.

Just check the myspace - nuff said. http://www.myspace.com/sneaksupply
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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New track record on Nurburgring go to the BMW M3 "CSL" with the times of 7.22.04 (that's faster then the new Corvette "ZR1" times of 7.26.04 and 2009 Nissan GT-R times of 7.29.03). I think the Clk 63 "BS" best time was in the 7.3x.xx.


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I don't think there's been a CLK63 running that low. And please take 'ring times with a grain of salt. 8 minutes flat is really fast. Usually anything below that has been modified in some way. And when doing comparisons using one source is the only way of being objective (like Sport Auto)

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track2.html

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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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Do you guys realize this post started from a 22yr. old newbie who was posting about a car that he doesn't even have yet?

I mean we are a select few but did you guys see the myspace?
Oh boy

I welcome him and all but these is just the kind of guy that we jump all over that inhabit the M3 BMW forums.

Look at the nonsense this has created. It obv. started from some sort of post he made over there and thats why all these BMW guys are here now running amok on our board.

Just check the myspace - nuff said. http://www.myspace.com/sneaksupply

I didn't know my age had somethin to do with. Like I said sorry for such insane thread. I didnt think it would be so crazy.
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I didn't know my age had somethin to do with. Like I said sorry for such insane thread. I didnt think it would be so crazy.
Your age has something to do with your maturity. You don't even have a Black Series and you're posting on other boards challenging people. That's a key sign of to me. You're in Parsippany right? Well I'm in Montclair and the car I claim to have is sitting in my driveway. Maybe when you get your car we can meet up and I can verify that you're not just blowing smoke.
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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What happened to DJM187 ?? Throws down a challange then disappears...typical....
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Your age has something to do with your maturity. You don't even have a Black Series and you're posting on other boards challenging people. That's a key sign of to me. You're in Parsippany right? Well I'm in Montclair and the car I claim to have is sitting in my driveway. Maybe when you get your car we can meet up and I can verify that you're not just blowing smoke.
CH has entered this thread....GAME OVA!!!
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Old Jul 21, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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if this was a sign of BS whats the point of me being here. I purchased a car on ebay. It has been paid for the car will be shipped on friday as I expect it to be here sometime later next week. Yes I will come out and meet you and maybe take you for a drive. Like I said I wouldnt waste my time with pm me your # and Ill call you as soon as this baby gets here
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Your age has something to do with your maturity. You don't even have a Black Series and you're posting on other boards challenging people. That's a key sign of to me. You're in Parsippany right? Well I'm in Montclair and the car I claim to have is sitting in my driveway. Maybe when you get your car we can meet up and I can verify that you're not just blowing smoke.
Thanks bro for explaining it to him for me. I didnt have the heart to tell him how silly he sounds to grown ups and how uttertly ridiculous and retarded the myspace thing is. Beginning quote " I love money...- ok thats enuff.
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Thanks bro for explaining it to him for me. I didnt have the heart to tell him how silly he sounds to grown ups and how uttertly ridiculous and retarded the myspace thing is. Beginning quote " I love money...- ok thats enuff.
Is there a problem with loving money? Last I checked its what life is all about. I dont consider anything free. Its to badd that you have problem with myspace. It at least shows you that I am REAL
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Thanks bro for explaining it to him for me. I didnt have the heart to tell him how silly he sounds to grown ups and how uttertly ridiculous and retarded the myspace thing is. Beginning quote " I love money...- ok thats enuff.
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