user z478747

.....and by your friends on MBWorld too? Well at least one of your friends on MBWorld!

On topic, Mr B: Buy one, pay a lot for it and then tell everyone. Help keep the values high... (er). Seriously, coming out of an M3, the torque alone will blow you away. I've only had mine for ~8 months and it still puts a smile on my face. Thought about selling it but came to my senses. Good luck.

alexander stemer

First, mileage is a major determinant. If you put 150,000 miles on it, the price will wind up at something around 25K. I say that because I had another limited production car ( a '94 BMW 850 CSI) that I drove to 166,000 miles and sold at $27,500. There were 100 of those. It stickered for $104,000 in 1994.
Otherwise, it loses 40K in year one, 15K in year 2, then 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, assuming limited use.
Personally, I think the most cost-effective use is as many miles as you can drive a year for as many years as you can. There will not be anything better for a long time. AS

MR. BLACK

Not sure if you're referring to me about "not buying", but if you are, I 'm not sure how/why you've come to that conclusion.
I am definitely a buyer at a price I'm comfortable with.

MR. BLACK

LOL on the bold above.
Actually my M3 has 622 rwhp and 4xx in torque. I'd have to look at the dyno sheet to confirm exact torque #'s.
So, needless to say, this isnt about speed for me.
Its more about owning such a limited production car that seems to be unbelievably well rounded.

DFW01E55

Read your post #24. That's where I get that you're not buying.

Edit: There's a Black one with 120 miles in Autoweek for 99.9.

MR. BLACK

With all due respect, I think you are reading into that a bit too much.
I could very well go out and buy one tomorrow if I'd like.
It just might not be the most practical move for me since I don't have a disposable income as I'm assuming some that bought the car may have.

I've been known by my personal friends to go ahead and "just do it".
So as I said.... time will tell.
I'm in no hurry, and from what I see happening in the economy and
business in general, time is on my side.

I will definitely post here with pics when the day comes.
Maybe you can congratulate me then.

DFW01E55

I will be pleased to congratulate you whether you buy it or not. I'm sure your choice will be the right one for you since you seem to be deliberate in the process.

AS, I was actually referring back to your comment on the economic indicators and wondering about the stock market.

clkwork

Awesome, thanks for the correction

alexander stemer

Oh!
First, I am a doctor, so therfore certified as a stock market idiot. But, I am also a group practice CEO (57 providers), so I pay attention to the local economy, and have learned to read.
My info on heavy manufacturing is from the horse's mouth. Steel orders for January are zero (yes, nothing, nada, zilch). If a Best Buy report can send the market into a skid, I can't fathom what a huge RIF in steel will do.
The stock market makes no sense to me any more, and I have a serious concern about manipulation, as these huge up/down cycles suggest somebody pouring money in, waiting for a surge, then dumping out.
So, in summary, I don't think we have seen the bottom yet, nobody can figure it out, somebody really rich (?? overseas) is likely getting really richer, and we won't really know how bad it's getting til April or thereabouts.
(Remember, I am a congenital harbinger of doom). Finally, I would love to be dead wrong. AS

W211 BEAST

I'd love to pick one of these up one day. I'm not much a fan of the CLK body, but Clarkson called it the most tail happy car he's driven, and I prefer having the funnest car to the fastest car around a track.

jrcart

Sorry, I have been away from the computer a few days. I live in Naperville and own one, let me know if you want to stop by and take a look. Mine is pretty heavily modded so it might not give you a honest representation of a stock Black, however, even in bone stock form it is an amazing car...I'm just a little crazier than your average car guy.

aleksandar1099

....just a little bit crazier.... not alot.... make sure you know this...

jrcart

Aleksander, I think I'm on the edge of "much crazier" you need to check out my car now, it's a different animal than the last time you saw it. I have added lots of goodies (and hp) since Morocco and cut a couple hundred pounds at the same time. Are you going to MIR next weekend?

aleksandar1099

I cant wait to see your car!!!...

I cant make it to MIR because of a wedding...very pissed it had to be the same day..

we should plan a chitown meet b4 winter.... u up for it

MR. BLACK

pm sent

DFW01E55

Mr Black, unless you're really ready to buy, I wouldn't go near his car.

The lust will consume you.

jrcart

The MIR event got moved from tomorrow to next Saturday, is the wedding this weekend or next?

aleksandar1099

It was this weekend... I just saw that mir was moved ... But there is a dyno day at fluid motor union On the same day.. U should come out if you don't go to Mir ... They just bought a new dyno dynamics and they are haveing a dyno day

jrcart

I have heard their dyno running over the past week or so, I own the building at the corner of Clow Creek and Wolfs Crossing, that is my shop where all my semis get serviced, it's about 4-5 buildings down from Fluid Motor Union. You will drive right past my shop to get to their shop. Maybe I will see you there.

aleksandar1099

sounds good! Are you still going to MIR?