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Black Series Auction Prices
Hi guys i was just wondering if anyone had any solid data on what our black series cars are going for at the auction block....my dad wanted to pick one up after driving mine a bit and i had heard that they were selling at auction from 60-67k depending on mileage and color. anybody have any hard data on those numbers?
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I dont know if they are selling for that low of a price at auctions, and if they are, then they must be high mileage and not clean or have even had body work. I do know that they are going in the high 70's to mid 80's when clean and with 6 to 10,000 miles. Any lower mileage is probably going for high mid to high 80's.
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Hi guys i was just wondering if anyone had any solid data on what our black series cars are going for at the auction block....my dad wanted to pick one up after driving mine a bit and i had heard that they were selling at auction from 60-67k depending on mileage and color. anybody have any hard data on those numbers?
I've been thinking of adding an R63 to my collection of limited production AMGs and would like to know your impression of it. Didn't you just buy yours?
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i did just buy it in april, i found one that had 25k miles from a dealer in vegas, it was a mercedes executives vehicle. i bought it for 50k out the door with t&L and am super happy with it. i then took it to shoreline motoring, where i have taken about 5 of my cars in the past and then to evosport https://mbworld.org/forums/r63-amg-w...-amg-pics.html
but i actually get more attention/stares and interest from people in the r class than i do my black series....my black is still stock but still i would think that people would gravitate toward it...either way the r class is an amazing car, i work in AZ and drive probably 1000 miles a week back and forth from newport beach to az and its super comfortable, and i can get to az in a little over 3 hours from the beach.
as for the auction prices, i had a gentleman tell me those prices that a red clk black went at auction in may with 4200 miles for 67k and a silver one in may with 6k miles for 64.5 he showed me a print out but did not let me keep it. i could be wrong but i would love some evidence to show what these things are selling for so that i can get my guy working on finding them at auction for my dad.
but i actually get more attention/stares and interest from people in the r class than i do my black series....my black is still stock but still i would think that people would gravitate toward it...either way the r class is an amazing car, i work in AZ and drive probably 1000 miles a week back and forth from newport beach to az and its super comfortable, and i can get to az in a little over 3 hours from the beach.
as for the auction prices, i had a gentleman tell me those prices that a red clk black went at auction in may with 4200 miles for 67k and a silver one in may with 6k miles for 64.5 he showed me a print out but did not let me keep it. i could be wrong but i would love some evidence to show what these things are selling for so that i can get my guy working on finding them at auction for my dad.
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as for the auction prices, i had a gentleman tell me those prices that a red clk black went at auction in may with 4200 miles for 67k and a silver one in may with 6k miles for 64.5 he showed me a print out but did not let me keep it. i could be wrong but i would love some evidence to show what these things are selling for so that i can get my guy working on finding them at auction for my dad.
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i did just buy it in april, i found one that had 25k miles from a dealer in vegas, it was a mercedes executives vehicle. i bought it for 50k out the door with t&L and am super happy with it. i then took it to shoreline motoring, where i have taken about 5 of my cars in the past and then to evosport https://mbworld.org/forums/r63-amg-w...-amg-pics.html
but i actually get more attention/stares and interest from people in the r class than i do my black series....my black is still stock but still i would think that people would gravitate toward it...either way the r class is an amazing car, i work in AZ and drive probably 1000 miles a week back and forth from newport beach to az and its super comfortable, and i can get to az in a little over 3 hours from the beach.
as for the auction prices, i had a gentleman tell me those prices that a red clk black went at auction in may with 4200 miles for 67k and a silver one in may with 6k miles for 64.5 he showed me a print out but did not let me keep it. i could be wrong but i would love some evidence to show what these things are selling for so that i can get my guy working on finding them at auction for my dad.
but i actually get more attention/stares and interest from people in the r class than i do my black series....my black is still stock but still i would think that people would gravitate toward it...either way the r class is an amazing car, i work in AZ and drive probably 1000 miles a week back and forth from newport beach to az and its super comfortable, and i can get to az in a little over 3 hours from the beach.
as for the auction prices, i had a gentleman tell me those prices that a red clk black went at auction in may with 4200 miles for 67k and a silver one in may with 6k miles for 64.5 he showed me a print out but did not let me keep it. i could be wrong but i would love some evidence to show what these things are selling for so that i can get my guy working on finding them at auction for my dad.
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I agree, the R looks like a hearse. Why not go for the E63 wagon? A LOT better looking, fast as hell and about as rare.....
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One - sellers usually aren't as "in-touch" with values as auctions... more so as the velocity of asset value fluctuation increases, IMHO. So, while somewhat dependent upon circumstances, auction prices are usually much closer to "true" current market value than asking prices (especially when dealing with depreciating assets), making them handy to know for purposes of making an offer and/or negotiating a price whether one has direct access to auctions or not.
Two - while I've never directly pursued this route myself, it's regularly been posted that some people/businesses with auction access will facilitate a purchase for a client for a modest markup fee (few hundred bucks, give or take). So, if someone's really interested in a particular auction example, they can probably get it for +$300-400 on top of the auction price... easy money for the dealer, competitive price for the buyer - what's not to like?
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Two points, I suppose.
One - sellers usually aren't as "in-touch" with values as auctions... more so as the velocity of asset value fluctuation increases, IMHO. So, while somewhat dependent upon circumstances, auction prices are usually much closer to "true" current market value than asking prices (especially when dealing with depreciating assets), making them handy to know for purposes of making an offer and/or negotiating a price whether one has direct access to auctions or not.
One - sellers usually aren't as "in-touch" with values as auctions... more so as the velocity of asset value fluctuation increases, IMHO. So, while somewhat dependent upon circumstances, auction prices are usually much closer to "true" current market value than asking prices (especially when dealing with depreciating assets), making them handy to know for purposes of making an offer and/or negotiating a price whether one has direct access to auctions or not.
Two - while I've never directly pursued this route myself, it's regularly been posted that some people/businesses with auction access will facilitate a purchase for a client for a modest markup fee (few hundred bucks, give or take). So, if someone's really interested in a particular auction example, they can probably get it for +$300-400 on top of the auction price... easy money for the dealer, competitive price for the buyer - what's not to like? ![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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Huh? If you brought this BS to me if I'm selling a car I'd probably hang up on you..... Auction prices are usually much closer to "true" current market value than asking prices???? I guess if you have access to an auction where there happens to be a BS going through it might be but, I have a feeling there will be less and less auction activity than in months past. This may be true for high production cars but sounds like a buyers way to justify a low ball offer to a seller to me.......
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Point is, vehicle auctions don't have the same emotional attachments, rationalizations, justifications, etc. that an individual seller may have - it's just vehicles changing hands at what could be construed as dealer-wholesale pricing. Which should be between trade-in and retail values, so consequently should be a decent proxy for a true current market value for the vehicle... the more recent the auction transaction(s) occurred, the better - could be worth $3k more than a month ago, or might be $5k less... but, "it is what it is."
I guess if you have the access nothing but most people do not so posting auction values does only one thing - lower the expectations about what buyers think a BS should sell for.
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Q: What's a car worth? A: whatever someone's willing to pay for it. That isn't just cars - works well with pretty-much anything. One could ask $150k for a CLK63BS, even today; citing exclusivity, limited production, future collector appeal, etc... they just wouldn't be able to sell it.
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BTW - full disclosure, I'm just a curious bystander, I am not in the market for a CLK63BS at present or in the immediate future. They are phenomenal cars, though - congrats on your ownership of one.
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I agree with much of this post but, like most who post on this subject it from a buyers perspective UNTIL that said buyer actually becomes an owner! It's happened here on more than one occaision.......
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2002 CLK 55 AMG Coupé
Last year AMG gave me a ride from Stuttgart to Afalterbach in an R. It's a very rare car in Europe - I gather in the 'States as well. From the inside I was impressed with the room but it didn't look very AMGish. From the outside I kind of like it - although i would avoid black as the color (this one was silver). The car was smooth and powerful with a firm ride.
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It has been interesting to watch the values of these cars the past few months. The retail values appear to have crept up a bit, but the cars are not moving. The same group of cars has been listed on Autotrader for months with only an exception or two.
I sincerely wish I would have bought one of these 3 months ago. Multiple could have been had in the low to mid 70's. I have now decided to look at almost any color preference. I will hopefully find one in the mid 70's and I might pay a little more for a white one.
I sincerely wish I would have bought one of these 3 months ago. Multiple could have been had in the low to mid 70's. I have now decided to look at almost any color preference. I will hopefully find one in the mid 70's and I might pay a little more for a white one.
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05/14/09 NEVADA Lease $83,250 2,518 Above MRS RED 8G A Yes
05/21/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $75,000 14,180 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
05/29/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $87,250 8,245 Above SILVER 8G A No
06/11/09 MANHEIM Regular $75,750 6,577 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Regular $74,000 14,857 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Regular $71,500 15,209 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
05/21/09 RIVRSIDE Lease $75,000 14,180 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
05/29/09 RIVRSIDE Factory $87,250 8,245 Above SILVER 8G A No
06/11/09 MANHEIM Regular $75,750 6,577 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Regular $74,000 14,857 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
07/16/09 RIVRSIDE Regular $71,500 15,209 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
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Pretty old, couldn't find this one.
Pretty old, couldn't find this one.
Could be this one? If so, they're losing a ton of $.....http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
Could not find this one.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...&standard=true
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
Pretty old, couldn't find this one.
Could be this one? If so, they're losing a ton of $.....http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
Could not find this one.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...&standard=true
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
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Pretty old, couldn't find this one.
Pretty old, couldn't find this one.
Could be this one? If so, they're losing a ton of $.....http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
Could not find this one.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...&standard=true
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
Pretty old, couldn't find this one.
Could be this one? If so, they're losing a ton of $.....http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
Could not find this one.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...&standard=true
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
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No longer car shopping...
I am one who bought a car through a broker (Close friend of my younger brothers). I actually attended the auction with him and negotiated the deal on the car after it went through the line without meeting reserve. Apparently, negotiating afterwards like this is VERY common. I paid 20% less than the market rate at that time so it saved me $5K. This was some 6 years ago but the process and ratios have not changed. I checked into it again before I bought my most recent car. It is the same for the more expensive models as well so the spreads listed above appear realistic.
If you want a REAL bargain, take a look at those R-series on the auction. They were never a real big hit here in the states having landed somewhere between an SUV and a Minivan I do know that the local Benz dealership was taking $30K off the higher end ones and people still would not bite and that was BEFORE this "recession" so it was not the cause. I personally was drooling over one but could not convince the wife to trade in the GX470...
If you want a REAL bargain, take a look at those R-series on the auction. They were never a real big hit here in the states having landed somewhere between an SUV and a Minivan I do know that the local Benz dealership was taking $30K off the higher end ones and people still would not bite and that was BEFORE this "recession" so it was not the cause. I personally was drooling over one but could not convince the wife to trade in the GX470...
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CLK63 BS is a steal for someone looking to add a 2-seater. The car is sick sick sick.
Unfortunately, I don't have a room in the garage. I would love to pick one up though since I am/was an AMG fan.
Unfortunately, I don't have a room in the garage. I would love to pick one up though since I am/was an AMG fan.
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ya, auction prices for these are definitely pretty shallow right now. I just cant understand why people always think their car is worth thousands of dollars more than it is at times. Hell, I got over all that stuff really fast after probably tanking nearly 100k in cars in the last year or two...hell, my maserati is already 12k less than when i bought it used...only auctioning for 74!
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ya, auction prices for these are definitely pretty shallow right now. I just cant understand why people always think their car is worth thousands of dollars more than it is at times. Hell, I got over all that stuff really fast after probably tanking nearly 100k in cars in the last year or two...hell, my maserati is already 12k less than when i bought it used...only auctioning for 74!
Do you trade or sell them yourself?
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ya, auction prices for these are definitely pretty shallow right now. I just cant understand why people always think their car is worth thousands of dollars more than it is at times. Hell, I got over all that stuff really fast after probably tanking nearly 100k in cars in the last year or two...hell, my maserati is already 12k less than when i bought it used...only auctioning for 74!
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