Picking up a BS
#1
Picking up a BS
I've been thinking of picking up a BS, any known issue(s) that I should be aware of? How's she reliability-wise? I'd love you hear your thoughts/comments on the car before I pull the trigger. Thanks guys.
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CLK 63 Black Series, 2009 S550, 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, BMW F800 GS Anniv Edition
Bulletproof is an undestatement. The motor is detuned from the factory and has lots of potential with just bolt ons and a tune. The cooling system is upgraded and aequate for track duty as is the suspension and entire driveline from the bellhousing to the CV's.
Good luck...There is one on here for sale right now at a great price...
Good luck...There is one on here for sale right now at a great price...
#4
Luke is correct about this car: https://mbworld.org/forums/clk63-bla...d-82k-78k.html It's a SMOKIN deal....
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CLK 63 Black Series, 2009 S550, 2011 Range Rover Supercharged, BMW F800 GS Anniv Edition
The only real problem I have seen across the 63 platform is cam position sensors that go bad. Other than that, I don't know of a single problem that has plagued the BS besides it's ability to get you thrown in jail very quickly.
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the only known issue I know of is, you're likely to get yourself in trouble as it is difficult to keep your foot out of it......
Luke is correct about this car: https://mbworld.org/forums/clk63-bla...d-82k-78k.html It's a SMOKIN deal....
Luke is correct about this car: https://mbworld.org/forums/clk63-bla...d-82k-78k.html It's a SMOKIN deal....
If only Learso's BS was WHITE.
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#8
Bringing this one back from the dead for my first post. I too am considering a BS for this upcoming fun weather season. Is everyone's car still holding up? Typical expectancy on costs for oil changes? Brake life? etc?
Trying to decide between this and a 997 GT3. Yes I know two slightly different animals, but both sexy nonetheless.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Trying to decide between this and a 997 GT3. Yes I know two slightly different animals, but both sexy nonetheless.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Last edited by BealeAss; 02-24-2010 at 03:20 PM.
#9
No problems on mine, in fact, I haven't even had to bring it any for any engine warrantee work. I did bring in for warrantee work, but it was related to the drivers side window not fully engaging when rolled up. It was fixed the first time. I should mentioned, I don't track my car and it's driven about once a month, currently has 4,300 miles. I too will not be parting with mine, best weekend car I've ever owned....Good luck.
Todd
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#10
Oil changes are $100 unless you DIY.
Brakes are definitely DIY! Too simple to pay someone else.
I got 14k out of the fronts with 750 track miles and then 16k out of the rears with 900 track miles.
Between the cars, it depends on whether you enjoy the visceral sensation of heavy torque pressing you deep into your seat or if you prefer the music of 8,000 rpm's in your ears. How often can you use torque vs. 8k rpm's?
Driving on the street or track, the GT3 weighs 900 pounds less and shows it deep in the corners, but the BS carves sharply into any corner and more than holds its own on exit speed against the GT3. How often can you take a corner on the street that would test either car? Not often.
On the track, I believe the overwhelming majority would say the BS is easier to drive hard than the GT3. On a tight technical track the advantage goes to the Porsche. On a high horsepower track, the BS has an advantage.
I think interior comfort goes to the BS, the front seats are just that good but the back seat doesn't exist.
Ride quality is acceptable in either car because you know what you're getting and it's not an S class.
Aftermarket parts are heavily skewed to the GT3.
Style wise, what else looks like one of the 376 CLK Black Series sent to the US?
What else looks like the GT3, except for the 911, 911S, 911 C4, 911 C4S, 911TT, 911TT S or GT2? Oh wait, maybe the GT3 RS?
Either way you can't go wrong but the Black Series will only be nearly new for a short time, while you'll always be able to get another GT3.
Brakes are definitely DIY! Too simple to pay someone else.
I got 14k out of the fronts with 750 track miles and then 16k out of the rears with 900 track miles.
Between the cars, it depends on whether you enjoy the visceral sensation of heavy torque pressing you deep into your seat or if you prefer the music of 8,000 rpm's in your ears. How often can you use torque vs. 8k rpm's?
Driving on the street or track, the GT3 weighs 900 pounds less and shows it deep in the corners, but the BS carves sharply into any corner and more than holds its own on exit speed against the GT3. How often can you take a corner on the street that would test either car? Not often.
On the track, I believe the overwhelming majority would say the BS is easier to drive hard than the GT3. On a tight technical track the advantage goes to the Porsche. On a high horsepower track, the BS has an advantage.
I think interior comfort goes to the BS, the front seats are just that good but the back seat doesn't exist.
Ride quality is acceptable in either car because you know what you're getting and it's not an S class.
Aftermarket parts are heavily skewed to the GT3.
Style wise, what else looks like one of the 376 CLK Black Series sent to the US?
What else looks like the GT3, except for the 911, 911S, 911 C4, 911 C4S, 911TT, 911TT S or GT2? Oh wait, maybe the GT3 RS?
Either way you can't go wrong but the Black Series will only be nearly new for a short time, while you'll always be able to get another GT3.
Last edited by DFW01E55; 02-24-2010 at 04:12 PM.
#11
Cool I was hoping to get some responses! Glad to hear the maintenance isn't horrible, I know relatively what I'd be getting into with the P-car both cost and what goes wrong and when wise, but the that info truly escapes me on the Benz.
Glad to hear there are still some DIY'able things like brakes. Wasn't sure if there were guys out there doing that on an expensive toy like this.
They both make their case for sure, I really think I just have to drive a BS.
Glad to hear there are still some DIY'able things like brakes. Wasn't sure if there were guys out there doing that on an expensive toy like this.
They both make their case for sure, I really think I just have to drive a BS.
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'22 G 63 AMG, '21 GLE 53 AMG, '20 NSX
Can't get two golf bags in a Porsche, and with a manual it's a non plus on SoCal freeways.
Track wise, DFW summed it up best short tracks Porsche, HP tracks the BS.
I've had many duels with GT3's and it takes a very talented driver to wring the best out of the porsche. The BS is much easier to drive fast.
Track wise, DFW summed it up best short tracks Porsche, HP tracks the BS.
I've had many duels with GT3's and it takes a very talented driver to wring the best out of the porsche. The BS is much easier to drive fast.
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Can't get two golf bags in a Porsche, and with a manual it's a non plus on SoCal freeways.
Track wise, DFW summed it up best short tracks Porsche, HP tracks the BS.
I've had many duels with GT3's and it takes a very talented driver to wring the best out of the porsche. The BS is much easier to drive fast.
Track wise, DFW summed it up best short tracks Porsche, HP tracks the BS.
I've had many duels with GT3's and it takes a very talented driver to wring the best out of the porsche. The BS is much easier to drive fast.
The Porsche I've wanted since I was like 9yrs old...then along came a spyder called the BS into my price range...
Maintenance and reliability was really my only major concern with the BS.
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2008 CLK 63 Black Series, 2013 G63, 2014 RS5 Coupe, 2013 JKUR 10A
I kind of figured as much, I'm really down to those two cars. I think driving each is the only way to figure it out.
The Porsche I've wanted since I was like 9yrs old...then along came a spyder called the BS into my price range...
Maintenance and reliability was really my only major concern with the BS.
The Porsche I've wanted since I was like 9yrs old...then along came a spyder called the BS into my price range...
Maintenance and reliability was really my only major concern with the BS.
#15
I'm going into either car expecting a step back in terms of raw feel, but that's not necessarily a bad thing for the extra grip and power that comes with it...
#16
Not trying to put you off though. The BS is a fantastic car in many ways. I sure you will love it. Just making sure expectations are realistic.
Enjoy.
#18
Great responses thank you so much guys. I've become really intrigued by this car. Only sort of crappy thing is I'm going to have to fly out somewhere for a test drive, but that's ok just means a weekend in Miami or Dallas or LA.
#19
The BS will give you much more throttle responsiveness, but you can drive back from the track with more comfort.
No comparison on engine sounds. My Elise has recaro's so they are pretty good, but the BS seats are fine for all uses as well.
Have fun. AS
#21
Well apparently nobody has anything bad to say about the damn thing. I just want to drive one. I have a friend who lives nearby one of the few for sale and his car opinions and likes/dislikes always mirror my own since we have had the same list of cars and sub sequential mods to them. Hopefully he'll go drive it this week and report the good word.
#22
Well apparently nobody has anything bad to say about the damn thing. I just want to drive one. I have a friend who lives nearby one of the few for sale and his car opinions and likes/dislikes always mirror my own since we have had the same list of cars and sub sequential mods to them. Hopefully he'll go drive it this week and report the good word.
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I've already accepted that I'm going to take a weekend and fly to see one. At least there's usually one in Miami so it can be fun for myself and the Mrs.