Just how rare are the AMG GTR's going to be in the US?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 12:33 PM
  #51  
susman@eurogermantown.com's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,949
Likes: 373
Originally Posted by Surge


Would love to agree with you; but not on the E63 wagon. Check BAT. They are about $40k.
I literally was on autotrader this morning... I would def buy a 2014+ E63 wagon for $40k (USA)
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 12:35 PM
  #52  
FourT6and2's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 379
Likes: 35
GT3
Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
8 new allocations (just allocated, not previous orders or cars on lots now) allocations for this run... in my region. ..im not lying..Im sold out, no reason to lie... ones sitting on lots may be because they want over MSRP... i dont do that
I wasn't talking about you. I was simply saying there are more than seven 2018 allocations on the entire east coast. Your comment is proof of that. That there are 8 in your region alone. The guy above who said his dealer told him seven TOTAL on the ENTIRE eastern seaboard... that dealer is the one full of it.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 12:38 PM
  #53  
Surge's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 2,030
Likes: 434
From: 🇨🇦
W463 G550 / C190 GTC //prev: W204 C63 507 / R170
Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
I literally was on autotrader this morning... I would def buy a 2014+ E63 wagon for $40k (USA)
yeah, would love an E63 wagon.

This is not the only one at this price:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...3-amg-wagon-3/
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 12:44 PM
  #54  
Germancar1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,846
Likes: 291
From: Dallas TX
2013 650i Coupe, 2010 IS250 AWD, 1999 S500
Originally Posted by thebishman


M,

I can’t for certain tell you that a set limit has been imposed, but we do know this. Due to the delay/hold at the VPCs, dealers weren’t receiving; delivering and ordering new GT Rs. I was told by three new car sales managers at three large MB dealerships that they wouldn’t receive new allocations until the ‘held’ cars were released and delivered to customers. Further, based on postings on this forum and what I was told; (and which forced me to purchase a car on the lot), potential owners are being told that allocations will be for early 2018 with delivery in spring 2018, and that those allocations would be ‘limited’.

Add all of the above together and, at least to me, it seems reasonable to assume that 2018 GT Rs aren’t going to be exactly plentiful. Caveat: I could well be wrong and am only applying my logic to the argument.

As for 991.2 GT3s: On RL it has been stated that approximately 30% of all new 911 deliveries are GT cars. Potential owners keep mentioning that they are being called earlier than initially told they would be to lock in their order, and early orders appear to be showing up in droves. Again, I am extrapolating from what I’ve read there, so I could easily be way off base.

If you have data that refutes my feeble attempt at trying to apply logic to the ordering process of these two phenomenal cars, please share it.
I was just asking, wasn't saying you were wrong. I thought you had some actual numbers/facts on it. I was curious to know how many of these are going to be built.

M
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 12:50 PM
  #55  
Germancar1's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 4,846
Likes: 291
From: Dallas TX
2013 650i Coupe, 2010 IS250 AWD, 1999 S500
Originally Posted by Surge
I don't know what that MMR screen is - I look at actual listings.
There are a ton of them for sale at 50% off MSRP. And these are asking prices; I'm sure you can negotiate.

Here's a beautiful one asking $89k:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ink=true&Log=0
Been on AutoTrader for a while.
You aren't even talking about the current or the 991.1 GT3.

M
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 12:53 PM
  #56  
Vic55's Avatar
Administrator
MBWorld Ambassador

20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 12,263
Likes: 901
From: THE Orange County, California
2024 C8 Z06- 2025 BMW CS- 2022 Porsche 992 GTS
Originally Posted by Germancar1
You aren't even talking about the current or the 991.1 GT3.

M
I tried to make the point but to no avail. Bottom line is that Porsche GT cars hold their values way better than their competitors.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 01:18 PM
  #57  
susman@eurogermantown.com's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,949
Likes: 373
Originally Posted by FourT6and2
I wasn't talking about you. I was simply saying there are more than seven 2018 allocations on the entire east coast. Your comment is proof of that. That there are 8 in your region alone. The guy above who said his dealer told him seven TOTAL on the ENTIRE eastern seaboard... that dealer is the one full of it.
Only 4 regions in the country..

btw I am that dealer (no offense taken...I know dealers have earned that rep) Thats what I saw last night.. it updated this morning with the rest of the allocations.. hence the correction.. a few of the NY regions cars popped up (all green, probably the default color combo). There are more GTR's in there but previous orders, cars already in build/ship status, and cars on the ground. Im talking new fresh allocations. It really is a trickle...

just to share, this is the OFFICIAL statement from MB HQ: GTR’s =
"The next allocation of GTR’s will take place in December and these units will be March production. Please be reminded, the production of GTR’s is EXTREMELLY LIMITED between now and the end of 2018."

Those are the new 8 new allocations in my region (again.. fresh new)

I really am not one of "those" dealers.. i actually like, track and work on my cars... working a dealer is my case to be around cars all day

Last edited by susman@eurogermantown.com; Dec 20, 2017 at 01:22 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 03:03 PM
  #58  
surfah's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 556
Likes: 80
2018 AMG GTS, 2015 911 GT3, 2017 E300, 2014 X3 35i
Originally Posted by Surge


OK, here’s a newer one:
Saw this 2010 Porsche 911 on autoTRADER.ca's iPhone app
http://m.autotrader.ca/a/5_35271142

asking $115k USD, 2010 with only 13k miles.
I’m sure you can get it for under $100k

I love the GT3, don’t get me wrong. But the way Porsche markets it as limited is just a farce. They build thousands of them in each gen. And they hold their value no better than any 911.
The GT3 RS is another story. But it’s also more than double the price.
This isn't true at all. Have you ever owned any variant of a 911, let alone a GT?

I received trade-in credit on my 2015 GT3 with 8000 miles for $128K. MSRP was $139K so obviously for a 3 year-old car that's damn good retention of value. That doesn't even include the excise tax savings I received on the $128K trade-in.

Compare that to a same year Turbo S and I will agree with you that's steep depreciation.

I do agree with you that Porsche's marketing of the new GT3 is a joke. ADM's are already down to $10K over MSRP in the Bay Area and LA from $25K over and a lot of 991 GT3 owners are having second thoughs about whether the $50K cost to upgrade to the new GT3 is worth the performance gain. Especially now that Porsche has extended coverage of the 991 GT3 engine's finger follower issue.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Dec 21, 2017 | 09:32 AM
  #59  
susman@eurogermantown.com's Avatar
Former Vendor of MBWorld
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 1,949
Likes: 373
Originally Posted by Surge


yeah, would love an E63 wagon.

This is not the only one at this price:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...3-amg-wagon-3/
Yea, thats the rear wheel, pre facelifted one.. I want a 2014-17... we have two clients in them... I trying to hook them up on a new 18 so they trade theirs in haha
Reply
Old Dec 21, 2017 | 01:16 PM
  #60  
Td33's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 326
Likes: 24
Ml63
Originally Posted by Vic55
I tried to make the point but to no avail. Bottom line is that Porsche GT cars hold their values way better than their competitors.

Vic55 100% correct. You can only lead them to the water lol. Porsche is killing it and for good reason!!
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:35 PM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE