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Tired of removing your ECU for power? Velos OBD II ECU tune now available
Hey Members
We are excited to announce our OBD II handheld option is finally available (no more removing ECUs ). We will run an Spring promotion now through June for performance software for all AMG GT/GTS/GTC/GTR owners.
Below you will find some information on our performance software for the AMG GT/GTS/GTC/GTR Platform. For more information PM or email me at oliver@velosdesignwerks.com
I’m assuming that the ECU ‘re-map’ is obvious to a dealership service dept should there be a drivetrain issue?
Bish
No it is not. The software version during this read,edit, and then write process remains the same. With the handheld whether the vehicle goes in for service or a drivetrain issue is recommended to return the vehicle to its original configuration so the “state” of the handheld will allow you to re-read after the dealer. Obviously if you have a relationship where the dealership will not update your software then this will not apply to you. The service department has the ability to over write your software but nothing can be seen from a dealership level.
No it is not. The software version during this read,edit, and then write process remains the same. With the handheld whether the vehicle goes in for service or a drivetrain issue is recommended to return the vehicle to its original configuration so the “state” of the handheld will allow you to re-read after the dealer. Obviously if you have a relationship where the dealership will not update your software then this will not apply to you. The service department has the ability to over write your software but nothing can be seen from a dealership level.
Well Stephen There’s more to it than just the version of software being the same. They can run diagnostics on parameters in the ECU and note that some parameters may have been exceeded. Also, it’s not just the ECU, there are numerous can buses on the vehicle that store data that can be reviewed.
Well Stephen There’s more to it than just the version of software being the same. They can run diagnostics on parameters in the ECU and note that some parameters may have been exceeded. Also, it’s not just the ECU, there are numerous can buses on the vehicle that store data that can be reviewed.
Thanks for your reply. Any modification is only done to the tuning area of the ECU which varies depending on the make and model of the vehicle (microprocessor, eprom, etc). Regarding anything that can be logged the only thing that may come up would be highest mph, boost levels are adjusted ever so slightly but torque limiters etc are not logged. To reiterate at the dealership level this is not done and when the dealer connects the default is to perform an update if necessary based on your version... what we are saying is there are absolutely NO red flags when it comes to that. Tuning is definitely not for everyone it just awesome that over time new communication methods become available for the enthusiasts looking for this option. On this biturbo platforms everyone began years ago with opening ecu’s and flipping boards to now allowing the end user to do the upgrade in the comfort of their own home!
The OBD2 flasher will still leave a reflash count trail if it is thought to be flashed.
The only real way to do it is just buy a bone stock ecu for service work and swap back the tuned unit...
Hey, thanks for the reply and love your E wagon. Correct but once again since I can remember, maybe 2001-2002 with the E46 M3 (albeit a BMW) flash counters have been around. Under normal service, etc this is not an issue or protocol but by all means anyone that has tuned any vehicle in the past 20 years should be advised there is an OBD2 counter. Same goes for all W204 C63 and other models. Another option is to do this on the bench without opening the ECU. Options for all which is the name of the game and just excited to be able to offer this to the end user.
Thanks for your reply. Any modification is only done to the tuning area of the ECU which varies depending on the make and model of the vehicle (microprocessor, eprom, etc). Regarding anything that can be logged the only thing that may come up would be highest mph, boost levels are adjusted ever so slightly but torque limiters etc are not logged. To reiterate at the dealership level this is not done and when the dealer connects the default is to perform an update if necessary based on your version... what we are saying is there are absolutely NO red flags when it comes to that. Tuning is definitely not for everyone it just awesome that over time new communication methods become available for the enthusiasts looking for this option. On this biturbo platforms everyone began years ago with opening ecu’s and flipping boards to now allowing the end user to do the upgrade in the comfort of their own home!
So are you saying that MB will not see a reflash count that differs from their service records ?
So are you saying that MB will not see a reflash count that differs from their service records ?
Hey,
Not sure when this was sent but I think it makes sense to talk to your writer or send in the ECU. Tuning is just that, tuning, so whether you are adding a supercharger kit to a W204 or Tuning a New G Wagon 4x4 you are stepping out of what any dealer would recommend. Options are the important thing and in the AMG GTS case your ECU removal takes less than 10 minutes so your options are wide open.
Not sure when this was sent but I think it makes sense to talk to your writer or send in the ECU. Tuning is just that, tuning, so whether you are adding a supercharger kit to a W204 or Tuning a New G Wagon 4x4 you are stepping out of what any dealer would recommend. Options are the important thing and in the AMG GTS case your ECU removal takes less than 10 minutes so your options are wide open.
You didn't answer my question..
So in other words any tune will be seen by MB service if they choose to look...the flash counter will be seen by MB.
You didn't answer my question..
So in other words any tune will be seen by MB service if they choose to look...the flash counter will be seen by MB.
Thanks for the reply, my apologies. Answer - I have never seen anyone flagged or have a dealer looked at a flash counter for BMW or Mercedes. I would consult with your Service adviser or consider an alternate method i.e. sending your ECU so that is not a concern.
Thanks for the reply, my apologies. Answer - I have never seen anyone flagged or have a dealer looked at a flash counter for BMW or Mercedes. I would consult with your Service adviser or consider an alternate method i.e. sending your ECU so that is not a concern.
Dude it's a yes or no answer... I'll help you out.. YES, it will show up if the dealership scans your ECU for a flash tune no matter how it is done.
Mercedes does notice the difference between a tuned and a stock car when ever they do a road test, I know this for fact first hand.
The only way around a very possible warrantee cancelation is to have a second bone stock ECU installed before the car is in for service or repair.
Thanks for your response and I respect and appreciate it 100%. My response stays the same, with several options for the enthusiasts when it comes to modifying your vehicle im confident there is a solution for everyone! Amazing stable and enjoy in great health.
Also received two pm’s regarding “stages”, there are detuned options as in a Stage 1 for those looking for that as well as those with larger turbos etc.
Well Stephen There’s more to it than just the version of software being the same. They can run diagnostics on parameters in the ECU and note that some parameters may have been exceeded. Also, it’s not just the ECU, there are numerous can buses on the vehicle that store data that can be reviewed.
Does this only apply to this OBD II style tune or all tunes available for this car?
Dude it's a yes or no answer... I'll help you out.. YES, it will show up if the dealership scans your ECU for a flash tune no matter how it is done.
Mercedes does notice the difference between a tuned and a stock car when ever they do a road test, I know this for fact first hand.
The only way around a very possible warrantee cancelation is to have a second bone stock ECU installed before the car is in for service or repair.
how is it possible to run 2 ECU’s in one car? I was told and understood that once married to the car only one at a time is possible. Swapping would not be possible. Can this be done?
how is it possible to run 2 ECU’s in one car? I was told and understood that once married to the car only one at a time is possible. Swapping would not be possible. Can this be done?
When you buy a new OEM ECU it is slaved to the VIN of the car iirc. Hence easy to switch out the original, now tuned ECU for the ‘virgin’ purchased ECU.
how is it possible to run 2 ECU’s in one car? I was told and understood that once married to the car only one at a time is possible. Swapping would not be possible. Can this be done?
One has your performance tune and one is bone stock. Simply swap them out, takes 2 min. tops and then visit the dealership..
The dealership will install and factory flash your new stock ECU.
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I would imagine a lot. Most likely not a common item to order from parts - lol. If so it would be based off your VIN and the cat would be out of the bag.
02-19-2019, 12:02 PM
Tired of removing your ECU for power? Velos OBD II ECU tune now available
). We will run an Spring promotion now through June for performance software for all AMG GT/GTS/GTC/GTR owners.
