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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 08:11 PM
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I have a 2018 AMG GTR i bought used about 6 months ago. My main reason for the purchase was to track it as i have a great track 15 miles from the house. I am new to CCBs and running on the track. I was getting my front brake pads changed out at MB and they pointed out a chip in my rear rotor. I was planning on doing one more track session before trading. My question is, with the small chip, should i get the rotors replaced before next track session?
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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 11:01 PM
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Welp I think you should first ask for an estimate and then decide. Wink wink!
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Old Nov 20, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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The price is 10k. I knew they would be high just didn’t expect to replace rotors this early
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Old Nov 20, 2019 | 12:06 PM
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So it can be easy to chip a CCM rotor if you don't take care changing wheels. That being said, the pad does not contact that specific area so you might well be fine continuing to use that specific rotor. You just have to keep a very close eye on it.

Also, you should be able to find one rear rotor for much less than $10K!!
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Old Nov 20, 2019 | 04:50 PM
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So it can be easy to chip a CCM rotor if you don't take care changing wheels. That being said, the pad does not contact that specific area so you might well be fine continuing to use that specific rotor. You just have to keep a very close eye on it.

Also, you should be able to find one rear rotor for much less than $10K!!

Thanks! Ive been out of town so picking it up tomorrow. Will watch closely. Yeah i hear ya on that. Mercedes just wants to try and sell you everything they can.My pads were low on my e63 and they tried to sell me rotors saying AMG requires changing both out....... Needless to say they are just changing pads
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 05:04 PM
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I just had the front rotors (CCB) on our E63s replaced which use the same rotors. Price was $9500 for rotors/pads (pair).

A2314230612 CCB Rear Disc (R-Passenger)
A2314230712 CCB Rear Disc (L-Driver)

Assume the pricing would be roughly the same but Ebay may have them cheaper. As Bish mentioned, the chip is outside the brake surface and shouldn't harm anything. No need to replace...
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Old Nov 22, 2019 | 04:55 PM
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I wouldn't worry about it, I've run my ACR for two years hard track use 4,000 miles with a badly chipped CCB.
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Old Nov 22, 2019 | 09:30 PM
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If anyone regrets or wished they got CCBs, this is the thread to read.

Thanks for curing that for me lol
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Old Nov 22, 2019 | 10:23 PM
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If anyone regrets or wished they got CCBs, this is the thread to read.

Thanks for curing that for me lol
Why? Love the CCB’s. Heck I take them for the lack of brake dust alone
I should mention that our rotors were replaced under warranty but I wanted to get new pads just in case of potential embedded debris...
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Old Dec 13, 2019 | 03:41 PM
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Update:

Mercedes told me I need to replace and not to track due to they could get hot and disentigrate . However I am constantly seeing people say it’s ok.

any other reassures out there? Has anyone ever seen a failure of CCB?
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Why? Love the CCB’s. Heck I take them for the lack of brake dust alone
I should mention that our rotors were replaced under warranty but I wanted to get new pads just in case of potential embedded debris...
and the fact that the brake dust alone destroys the wheels and wells over time, having to use chemical cleaners etc.
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Old Dec 13, 2019 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Truckin
Update:

Mercedes told me I need to replace and not to track due to they could get hot and disentigrate . However I am constantly seeing people say it’s ok.

any other reassures out there? Has anyone ever seen a failure of CCB?
Well all rotors get hot, that’s how brakes work, so not sure why they would have stated that. Like most, (all?) dealerships, yours is in the replacement business, that’s how they make money.

Personally I would run on my local track if I had a small chip that was not in the pad contact zone like yours. I’d take it a little easier during the first session and keep a close eye on the rotor also.
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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 12:23 PM
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Completed 4 sessions. Everything went great. Brakes worked fantastic. Overheated in session 3 in race mode but just shifted a little earlier in the turns on session 4 but everything went great. No additional chips formed on the rotor.
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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 07:10 PM
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Completed 4 sessions. Everything went great. Brakes worked fantastic. Overheated in session 3 in race mode but just shifted a little earlier in the turns on session 4 but everything went great. No additional chips formed on the rotor.
Glad to hear that there were no issues with the rotor.

Are you saying you overheated the engine on a GTR on track? If so, that’s the first issue I’ve ever heard of anyone ‘overheating’ this car on a road course; especially weird given the time of the year. I run in ‘Race’ mode, and generally just let the car do it’s thing, and I’ve never came close to overheating anything even in a Kansas summer, and they’re bloody hot! lol

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Old Dec 19, 2019 | 07:55 PM
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Well the car derated on the straight ( COTA Austin) but all was fine it picked back up I just took it to the pit to cool down. A few people I was talking to was recommending race specific brake fluid and oil. Anyone know any specifics on that .

but car performed great. I kept up/passed everyone in my group besides a pro driver an MP4. Know it’s not a faster car but damn the driver was good
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 08:49 AM
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I'm surprised the car overheated at COTA. Do you have a tune on the car?

Also, you need to upgrade the brake fluid to something more track oriented. Castrol SRF or similar. As for oil I would use the stock oil that comes with the car.
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 11:06 AM
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No tune on the car. Engine temp got to about 250 then lost about of power right before the back straight. Check engine light came on. Power picked back up but I just took it back to the garage to cool down. Ran last session no problem.

I got brave throughout the day and turned off traction little by little. Great feature on that car.
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 01:05 PM
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CCB rotors can be refurbished for €1400 per rotor. They'll come out better than new.
CCBs are great and don't listen to chickens telling you how "scary costly" they are. Yes, they can get damaged but that's a really rare occurrence. At the end of the day the "AMG" CCB brake system is just a dead simple Brembo brake caliper, Brembo CC rotor and a Textar brake pad.
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