Listing My GTS Edition 1 to get an AMG GT R
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If you’re still under warranty I would take the car in and get this 100% sorted regardless of how many times it takes. If not, and it’s a feature you really don’t care about, and really good shop ought to be able to figure out how to disable it without causing any other issues.
Good luck!
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If you’re still under warranty I would take the car in and get this 100% sorted regardless of how many times it takes. If not, and it’s a feature you really don’t care about, and really good shop ought to be able to figure out how to disable it without causing any other issues.
Good luck!
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Agreed. On top of that, the lineup is too muddled. Unlike the SLS, which had only one model before the BS launched, the GT lineup is convoluted. GT, GTS, GTC, GTR, GTR PRO, GTR BS, GT 43, GT 63.......
I feel for the folks who are expecting SLS BS type of appreciation out of the GTR BS. I'll be surprised if it even holds launch pricing past the 2 year mark.
I feel for the folks who are expecting SLS BS type of appreciation out of the GTR BS. I'll be surprised if it even holds launch pricing past the 2 year mark.
That being said I would agree that the rate of depreciation may be less on a MG Black as opposed to the GTR, GTR PRO etc.
We should know in about 6-9 months.
Stay tuned.
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In my experience and most members here agree that these cars are not investments. If you want a return on your AMG investment you should look elsewhere like the stock market.
That being said I would agree that the rate of depreciation may be less on a MG Black as opposed to the GTR, GTR PRO etc.
We should know in about 6-9 months.
Stay tuned.
Merry Christmas to all.
That being said I would agree that the rate of depreciation may be less on a MG Black as opposed to the GTR, GTR PRO etc.
We should know in about 6-9 months.
Stay tuned.
Merry Christmas to all.
Future generations will be electric hybrids. So this is the last generation of gas only powered GTs.
and we won’t know in 6 months. We’ll know in 6+ years.
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Dont agree with any of this. Future value is simply a function of supply and demand. Very few GT 2 doors are sold. Fewer than 911 GT3s, for example.
Future generations will be electric hybrids. So this is the last generation of gas only powered GTs.
and we won’t know in 6 months. We’ll know in 6+ years.
Future generations will be electric hybrids. So this is the last generation of gas only powered GTs.
and we won’t know in 6 months. We’ll know in 6+ years.
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I disagree completely. This isn't the same as going from NA to FI, as it's still going to have the biturbo v8, just with hybrid assistance and better traction. I mean, as an owner, sure, it would be nice to get out of the car at what I bought in, but this is a watered down MB lineup, not a NA 458 or manual Merci.
And it will likely be smaller displacement and quieter. Plus the hybrid stuff is a non-starter for me because good luck getting parts for it after 10-15 years. You want to talk about depreciation — try selling one of the hybrid GT53s in a decade! You’ll be lucky to get $20K.
And why are you bringing in McLaren? No similarities to AMG. McLaren is junk for quality and reliability- and way more supply than demand.
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Who said anything about getting out for what you bought at?
And it will likely be smaller displacement and quieter. Plus the hybrid stuff is a non-starter for me because good luck getting parts for it after 10-15 years. You want to talk about depreciation — try selling one of the hybrid GT53s in a decade! You’ll be lucky to get $20K.
And why are you bringing in McLaren? No similarities to AMG. McLaren is junk for quality and reliability- and way more supply than demand.
And it will likely be smaller displacement and quieter. Plus the hybrid stuff is a non-starter for me because good luck getting parts for it after 10-15 years. You want to talk about depreciation — try selling one of the hybrid GT53s in a decade! You’ll be lucky to get $20K.
And why are you bringing in McLaren? No similarities to AMG. McLaren is junk for quality and reliability- and way more supply than demand.
Porsche GT car production:
"Again the best estimates we currently have, WW/NA
World Wide / North America
2016 911 RS - 4,250 / 1,529
2016 911 R - 991 / 323
2016 GT3 - 550 / 189
2015 GT3 - 3,800 / 1,342
2014 GT3 - 1,700 / 602
991.1 GT = 11,291 WW est. / 3,985 NA
World Wide / North America
2019 3RS - 2,700 / 950
2018 2RS - 1,850 / 650
2018 GT3 - 6,650 / 2,400
991.2 GT = 11,200 WW est. / ~4,000 NA est.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post15332795
AMG GT numbers (Europe/US only):
Europe only:
2018 - 3,569
2017 - 2,443
2016 - 2,372
2015 - 2,508
2014 - 71
Total: 10,963
US only:
2018 - 1,525
2017 - 1,609
2016 - 1,227
2015 - 1,277
Total: 5638
http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...rcedes-amg-gt/
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Thanks for posting the sales volumes.
I was comparing the GT3 to the GTC and GTR volumes, sorry to not have clarified. These are the direct competition to the GT3.
Since GTC and GTR production started in 2018, and 2018 volume includes the GT and GTS, you can see how much rarer the GTC and GTR are.
After dropping in the next few years, I think the GTC and GTR will stabilize at around $80-100k USD for well kept copies.
I was comparing the GT3 to the GTC and GTR volumes, sorry to not have clarified. These are the direct competition to the GT3.
Since GTC and GTR production started in 2018, and 2018 volume includes the GT and GTS, you can see how much rarer the GTC and GTR are.
After dropping in the next few years, I think the GTC and GTR will stabilize at around $80-100k USD for well kept copies.
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IMHO GT3 and GTR are not exotics, they are what I would term “exotic commodities”, great products, volume production, high quality, superb safety and performance etc... great products... but still mass products... the market will eventually decide how to value them a few years down the road. They are by no means rare, and by no means that unique. GT3 manuals are coming down below $150k, non manuals in the $120k or lower. Lots of GTRs for sale (I’m always looking to buy one) you can get one easily in the teens... next spring 16s will be even lower with lots of 19/20s hitting the market.
I agree with Surge on his valuation, I also think $80-$100k
SLS is probably more unique being more quirky, nowhere near the performance, balance, tranny of GTS/GTR but in future people may value quirkiness / uniqueness more than performance ... none of these are collectors items unless you go to very low mile black series I think ...
I personally prefer the performance and looks of a well tuned and setup GTS, I find it cleaner and lighter, with less theatrics... you can get a great example on the $80s and a low mile GTR for about $30k more...
I agree with Surge on his valuation, I also think $80-$100k
SLS is probably more unique being more quirky, nowhere near the performance, balance, tranny of GTS/GTR but in future people may value quirkiness / uniqueness more than performance ... none of these are collectors items unless you go to very low mile black series I think ...
I personally prefer the performance and looks of a well tuned and setup GTS, I find it cleaner and lighter, with less theatrics... you can get a great example on the $80s and a low mile GTR for about $30k more...
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@speefspeed it sounds like the GTC would be in your sweet-spot if you prefer the looks of a GTS. Personally I think the GTR, while no doubt capable on track, takes away from the ethos of the “GT” purpose. The glass roof, the more comfortable ride, and the automatic rear spoiler are key elements to the design of the GT, yet missing from the GTR.
Also, I think without a doubt the pre 2020MY cars will be worth more in the future. The center console ugly and pointless with the touch buttons, and the analog dials of the pre 2020 cars will definitely be a novelty in 10+ years.
Also, I think without a doubt the pre 2020MY cars will be worth more in the future. The center console ugly and pointless with the touch buttons, and the analog dials of the pre 2020 cars will definitely be a novelty in 10+ years.
