Bittersweet to be listing my extra clean Edition 1 GTS to set out on a search for a GT R. If you're thinking of parting ways with your red or brilliant blue GT R, let me know.

As for my GTS, it's extremely clean and meticulously maintained/detailed. It has an extended Mercedes Benz CPO warranty. Ceramic coated, never towel dried, only air dried. Never seen winter, only in rain a small handful of times.
Always properly warmed up and maintenance is always done far ahead of schedule. Interior is also coated/protected, no wear on bolsters. Looks and smells new.
Tasteful mods include H&R springs (stock springs included), refinished stock wheels in gloss black, LED interior lighting, grill slats wrapped in gloss black. Rare Edition 1 package includes factory aero kit (fixed rear wing, sideskirts, front splitter), carbon fiber roof and red trim interior.
Brand new Michelin Sport Cup 2 tires and brakes pads. Always garaged under a cover when not driven. Indoor car cover included. 15k miles, asking $85,900.

PM me if you have a GT R for sale or if you're interested in my GTS. Plenty of high resolution pics I can send.

Also, I do feel it may be a bit too much money for a minimal increase in the car. I sometimes remind myself it's generally the same drivetrain. Yes, I'm missing out on the 9 stage traction control, the widebody and the rear wheel steering but is that worth $50k++ more? Not too concerned about the power bump since the GTS can be tuned. What are your thoughts on this?

 

Looks like it’s in fantastic shape and the price is reasonable.

(note: it’s actually not good to air dry any finish, and Ceramic Pro’s directions are the same - to dry with a micro fiber cloth not let it air dry). I’m sure the paint is great, just FYI.

 

Thanks!
When I say air dry, I mean using a Metro Vac product that pushes water off the car using heated, compressed air. Great detailing product that clears water out of wheels/brakes, headlights/taillights etc...
Other areas of the car are spot dried using Carpro dehydrate which is a plush microfiber towel made for drying.
Zero swirlmarks on this car.

 

great car
I also have an Edition1 with about 7000 miles- also full ppf and ceramic
had an itch a few weeks ago and went to local MB dealer who had a new '20 GTR in hell mango matte green which I thought was awesome
in the end they offered $82 for mine (wholesale) and took $18 off the new GTR that stickered at $196 for a net difference of $96 plus tax
I didn't think that was unreasonable but given my limited use it didn't make sense for me
GLWS

 

This is good to know. Thank you.

I'm also trying to make sense of it and whether or not the upgrades are worth $50k+ increase.

 

Well it’s a 80k upgrade if used. I might do a Pro in a couple of years.

 

I'd say yes if your focus is the track, and absolutely not (in my opinion of course) if that's not what you plan to do with it.

 

Any of us detailing geeks knew what you meant 😁

 

I looked at a beautiful GTR pro and got the same appraisal for my GTS and then thought about just buying another slightly used GTS in a different color for the difference in price.
A two GTS garage would be kinda cool, modify the hell outta one and keep the other stock...

Remember the minute you drive off the lot that new GTR just lost $30K in value.

 

I agree that the price difference is simply not justified
I took a step back and looked at my GTS which is better then new (tuned, paint protection, ceramic coating..) with only 7,000 miles and the huge depreciation bite that a new one would take and it made zero sense
I need to either start using mine more and enjoy it or sell it

 

If it makes any difference, I was looking at pre-owned GTR's. Noticed they were in the $130's for around 10-15k miles, clean title. This means they already took a good bit of depreciation (but still more to go since it's only 2 years old).
This is what made me curious. This would still be a $40-50k price increase for me assuming my GTS is worth between 80-90k.

 

A used ‘18 GTR is a performance bargain right now IMHO. Mine’s probably worth $135K-$140K wholesale/trade, so I’ve lost $60K in two years/5K miles.

Bish

 

Bish:

You’re close but unfortunately reality is more in the $125-$130k range.

As more than one of us have mentioned several times over the years, these cars are not investments.

A “Black” may do better but the market for AMG GT’S is not at all like Porsche.

Best regards

 

I have seen some nice examples in this price range. They do sell quickly at that price though, from what I've noticed.

I do think they'll bottom out soon though. If they get under $100k, it's too good of a car for people to pass up at that price. And when the demand exceeds the inventory, they will level off.
Of course this is just my $.02

 

I've noticed about a $8-10k premium on the Mango Green w/ ceramics over the standard colors, which I think is what Bish has? At least when I was shopping. I know it's pointless to speculate, but I wouldn't be surprised to see prices dip a little more then have a bit of a rebound and hold steady. I was recently at the Nurburgring and there was a certain aura and presence with the GTR there, and much like the SLS I think is currently flying under the radar among enthusiasts but will eventually be appreciated. Not sure what the planned life cycle is for this platform is but if it's fairly short lived that would obviously help.

 

Yep, mine’s the Kermit Green with an MSRP of $194K and with an additional $6K’s worth of full body PPF, etc. Not sure if that adds much or not, although the green paint was a $10K option alone. Regardless buying a new AMG one has to realize that they do not have a history of retaining a decent residual value; hence buying CPO is the really smart way to own any of them.

That being said, I agree with everything you stated above. The car is an absolute ‘beast’ on a road course, and if they hold up without needing expensive out of warranty repairs, I do think they will be sort after highly, especially since there really aren’t that many of them around. Certainly far less than the 991 GT3/RS variants.

Bish

 

Porsche depreciation is about the same, unless it’s a GT3 or 2.

The last model year for the AMG GT is 2020 from what I’ve read. An all new hybrid electric arrives for MY2021. That would mean that the GTR and GTCs were only produced for 2[edit: 3]model years, which will be great for resale. Plus, they are rarer than most modern Ferraris.

(At the end of the SLS model run, dealers had to practically give them away; of course now that’s changed).

The GT will be the last non-electric flagship from AMG. Think about that. And if the hybrid price is higher, it will promote a strong resale for the GT. I think it would be a BIG MISTAKE to sell an AMG GT now. Wait until production ends!

 

Interesting take...and Iean to agree.

 

I'd say this applies to almost all AMG's except the limited production models. The SLS (even non black series), and CLK black series are holding strong. I don't think the GT will be as strong as the SLS because it doesn't have gullwing doors but it being a more capable car may make up some ground. There are more GT's on the road too so that may also work against it but I also don't think they'll depreciate like the run of the mill AMG's.

 

MY22 in 2021...

 

Agreed. On top of that, the lineup is too muddled. Unlike the SLS, which had only one model before the BS launched, the GT lineup is convoluted. GT, GTS, GTC, GTR, GTR PRO, GTR BS, GT 43, GT 63.......

I feel for the folks who are expecting SLS BS type of appreciation out of the GTR BS. I'll be surprised if it even holds launch pricing past the 2 year mark.

 

The 4-door GT is an amazing performer but I don't even consider that the same car. Even so, the GT lineup is still crowded.

As for the values of the GT black series, it will mostly depend on the production numbers and how it performs against the competition.
Let's put it this way, if it takes the Nurburgring crown from the Aventador SVJ and GT2RS while at the same time there are only 300 worldwide, then it's going to be valuable.
But if there's an infinite number of them and they're just barely faster than the GTR pro, then they will quickly be an afterthought.
But I don't see a lot of GTR's here let alone a pro so I think the BS will be quite rare. As for the other factor (performance against the competition), we'll have to wait and see...

 

Hell my $208k 991 Turbo S was worth $115k on trade in after 2 yrs and 18,000 miles, so that was an $93k loss or should I say rental for 1.5 yrs.

Value on my slightly used GTS when purchased was $115k with 3,500 miles and now it's worth $85k with 16,000 miles, so that's only a $30k loss or should I say rental in 1.5 yrs.

GTS held it's value better than the common Turbo S Porsche..

 

This thread turned into an interesting read about values... Don't hate me here, everything I'm about to say is from the heart. What do you all think about the future value of the GT given the technology/gadgetry the car has? Like in a few years if a sensor or something niche goes bad, will there be anyone who can fix it? Twice in the last six months I've gotten the dreaded "collision prevention assist inoperative" and car loses ALL throttle ability and I have to pull off the road and stop/restart it. Upon doing some googling it looks like anyone who's had this problem has either had to take their car in 8-10 times (who has time for that?!) in order to get Merc to actually fix it (replace the sensors or ecu or whatever) or in some cases they get the "we can't replicate it so we can't fix it" routine. Some instances it looks like Merc said it's "normal" if it only happens occasionally (which is not okay to me.) And yes the second time it happened I had already manually turned it off! This has turned what was an undying love for my absolute dream car, into something I might be willing to take a hit on to trade for something simpler, with less "over-engineering."

I would love to hear some wisdom that will keep this car in my garage. Everything mechanical about it was done so right... but the joy of having a beautifully crafted 10 second car is overshadowed for me by the inevitability that some obscure safety feature I never wanted will someday turn the car into a 3,700 lb paperweight because the mechanic/part to fix it no longer exists. The bit in this thread about these cars eventually going up in value seems like a pipe dream unless in the future, this current platform ends up having immense support for all the over-engineered bits -- but if you know something I don't, please enlighten me!

 

The opposite can actually happen over time.. people start to figure the tech out over time and fixes become more readily available. The MB techs figure out the cause(s) of the issue as time goes on and as more people experience the same issues. The issues and fixes are shared among them and among us within the internet as time goes on and as the cars age.
This learning process can take longer on a more rare model since the techs don't see too many of them.

I know collision prevention isn't exactly a new feature in cars overall but it's configured differently in each make and model.