Anybody planning on keeping their GT?
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My current intention is to keep the GTR long term. Even though it's not a gullwing, I think this is one of their more iconic designs and will age well! I'm not typically a fan of older cars but the 300SL still looks beautiful to me, and I hope the GTR will age the same.
I was also scared of McLaren as I've heard of quality and reliability problems from multiple sources, but I've also heard of good experiences with the brand. After renting a 720S for an hour I was blown away by the performance and theater the car had, so much so that I put away my fears of depreciation and reliability issues and secured a 765LT allocation. The thought of owning a factory stock mid 9s car and with rumors of it being faster than a Senna in certain situations is worth taking the chance imo. Plus some quirks are to be expected with the supercar brands...it's what gives these cars character so I'd like to believe
I was also scared of McLaren as I've heard of quality and reliability problems from multiple sources, but I've also heard of good experiences with the brand. After renting a 720S for an hour I was blown away by the performance and theater the car had, so much so that I put away my fears of depreciation and reliability issues and secured a 765LT allocation. The thought of owning a factory stock mid 9s car and with rumors of it being faster than a Senna in certain situations is worth taking the chance imo. Plus some quirks are to be expected with the supercar brands...it's what gives these cars character so I'd like to believe
Also, obviously the new GTR black series is debuting, but we really should understand the craftsmanship, materials, engineering and design that went into the GT line.....there is a LOT of that in the car you have and drive right now. We just take it for granted because we think newer is always better...But really dive in to understanding the car we all aready have.
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I am totally planning on keeping it. Mark my words: these cars will become coveted once all AMGs are electric. The next GT will have a shared platform with the SL and be a hybrid. Especially the pre-facelift GTs with the analog dials and the round “V8” knobs on the console and the louder exhaust will become highly desired. Not to mention sales volumes are low, so they are quite rare.
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These cars will not become "coveted" unless we have different definitions of the word. They're good cars but there's no manual or v10/v12 or anything that unique about them. They'll be a good value in the used car market.
Even the hard to find manual transmission v10 R8s are not super duper pricey.
Plus I know plenty of people that prefer the new facelifted interior.
Even the hard to find manual transmission v10 R8s are not super duper pricey.
Plus I know plenty of people that prefer the new facelifted interior.
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So yeah, the AMG GT is definitely rare.
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Yes, that's I dont see many driving around rare.
Not this car will go up in value/be highly coveted rare.
Even the GT3 has to be manual transmission and a special PTS color to be coveted.
The Ford GT is coveted. The 550 Maranello because of the manual is coveted.
All the GTx models tank in value. They might bottom out at a certain point and stay there but they're not some collectible car imo. The base GT looks the same as a $175,000 GTC to 99% of people. That's one of the main reasons they'll never be a collectible car.
Not this car will go up in value/be highly coveted rare.
Even the GT3 has to be manual transmission and a special PTS color to be coveted.
The Ford GT is coveted. The 550 Maranello because of the manual is coveted.
All the GTx models tank in value. They might bottom out at a certain point and stay there but they're not some collectible car imo. The base GT looks the same as a $175,000 GTC to 99% of people. That's one of the main reasons they'll never be a collectible car.
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Couldn’t disagree more. I never said they will go up in value. I said they will be coveted by enthusiasts.
Go and read about the next gen GT - hybrid, shared platform, front heavy, quieter... the current gen is the LAST non-electric flagship AMG. Check back in 10 years and you’ll see I’m right.
And true enthusiasts know there’s a massive difference between the GT and GTC. But that’s irrelevant. All GT (2 doors) will become coveted. Give it some time.
Go and read about the next gen GT - hybrid, shared platform, front heavy, quieter... the current gen is the LAST non-electric flagship AMG. Check back in 10 years and you’ll see I’m right.
And true enthusiasts know there’s a massive difference between the GT and GTC. But that’s irrelevant. All GT (2 doors) will become coveted. Give it some time.
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As much as I agree electric will be the future for the lemmings, this will accelerate the need to acquire a muscle V8 for the real enthusiasts . In the last 60 days, most of the good GT cars are now gone. A lot of weird optioned/lemoned cars left over.
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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...l-drive-hybrid
Porsche GT car production:
"Again the best estimates we currently have, WW/NA
World Wide / North America
2016 911 RS - 4,250 / 1,529
2016 911 R - 991 / 323
2016 GT3 - 550 / 189
2015 GT3 - 3,800 / 1,342
2014 GT3 - 1,700 / 602
991.1 GT = 11,291 WW est. / 3,985 NA
World Wide / North America
2019 3RS - 2,700 / 950
2018 2RS - 1,850 / 650
2018 GT3 - 6,650 / 2,400
991.2 GT = 11,200 WW est. / ~4,000 NA est.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post15332795
AMG GT numbers (Europe/US only):
Europe only:
2018 - 3,569
2017 - 2,443
2016 - 2,372
2015 - 2,508
2014 - 71
Total: 10,963
US only:
2018 - 1,525
2017 - 1,609
2016 - 1,227
2015 - 1,277
Total: 5638
http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...rcedes-amg-gt/
Porsche GT car production:
"Again the best estimates we currently have, WW/NA
World Wide / North America
2016 911 RS - 4,250 / 1,529
2016 911 R - 991 / 323
2016 GT3 - 550 / 189
2015 GT3 - 3,800 / 1,342
2014 GT3 - 1,700 / 602
991.1 GT = 11,291 WW est. / 3,985 NA
World Wide / North America
2019 3RS - 2,700 / 950
2018 2RS - 1,850 / 650
2018 GT3 - 6,650 / 2,400
991.2 GT = 11,200 WW est. / ~4,000 NA est.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post15332795
AMG GT numbers (Europe/US only):
Europe only:
2018 - 3,569
2017 - 2,443
2016 - 2,372
2015 - 2,508
2014 - 71
Total: 10,963
US only:
2018 - 1,525
2017 - 1,609
2016 - 1,227
2015 - 1,277
Total: 5638
http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...rcedes-amg-gt/
15-18 there are more AMG GTs sold in NA + Europe than GT P cars sold world wide.
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Don't know about the special run GT cars but the more widely available GT3 numbers just look off - maybe it's just California, but my local dealership (which is not in Orange Country) ALWAYS has your choice of GT3 and GT3RS colors to choose from...I think the numbers in 2014 where they stopped production because of a faulty motor might be accurate, but by the time 2016 rolled around you could find a (new) 2015 GT3 on pretty much any lot you rolled on to and get a good discount on it too! Amazing track cars, but I don't think they are all that rare....it might be perception because generally speaking the 911 is everywhere and it's a great car, but by no means rare.
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Not sure why you like misquoting facts and bringing the value of your own car down?!
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Sorry, I meant to compare the GTC/GTR against the 991 GT3. It's not fair to compare a GT or GTS to a 911 GT, I'm sure you'll agree. You can compare GT/GTS sales volume against regular 911 volume and you'll find about a 10X difference. I think C&D quoted it as 7X, can't recall; but far more 911s are sold than GTs. We don't have volume data by AMG GT model, but you can assume at most 50% are GTC/GTR, in which case it is far more rare than a 991.1 or 991.2 GT car.
Not sure why you like misquoting facts and bringing the value of your own car down?!
Not sure why you like misquoting facts and bringing the value of your own car down?!
Who the hell cares what the value of a car is 10years after they bought it in the first place? What a strange thing to think about. Buy real estate instead.
And none of these cars are collectors cars nor will they be coveted after. Perhaps the Black Series but that will depend purely on production numbers...which should be released tomorrow...
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Not sure how he is bringing the value of his car down by sharing an opinion...seems to be an opinion grounded in reality as well. Why can't we all just accept that these cars long term are going to be essentially worthless? 200k car with a long-term residual of what, 60k?
Who the hell cares what the value of a car is 10years after they bought it in the first place? What a strange thing to think about. Buy real estate instead.
And none of these cars are collectors cars nor will they be coveted after. Perhaps the Black Series but that will depend purely on production numbers...which should be released tomorrow...
Who the hell cares what the value of a car is 10years after they bought it in the first place? What a strange thing to think about. Buy real estate instead.
And none of these cars are collectors cars nor will they be coveted after. Perhaps the Black Series but that will depend purely on production numbers...which should be released tomorrow...
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Not sure how he is bringing the value of his car down by sharing an opinion...seems to be an opinion grounded in reality as well. Why can't we all just accept that these cars long term are going to be essentially worthless? 200k car with a long-term residual of what, 60k?
Who the hell cares what the value of a car is 10years after they bought it in the first place? What a strange thing to think about. Buy real estate instead.
And none of these cars are collectors cars nor will they be coveted after. Perhaps the Black Series but that will depend purely on production numbers...which should be released tomorrow...
Who the hell cares what the value of a car is 10years after they bought it in the first place? What a strange thing to think about. Buy real estate instead.
And none of these cars are collectors cars nor will they be coveted after. Perhaps the Black Series but that will depend purely on production numbers...which should be released tomorrow...
The SLS was not selling in its last year or two of production. They were sitting on dealer lots.
I never said the GT will appreciate. I did say it will be coveted, and I 100% stand behind that. Let's check back in 10 years and see who was right.
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Haha. You won't want this one. I am beating the **** out of it. This one will be worthless. It'll be good for my daughter to learn to drive on the track with. That is it.
Cheeky guy though! haha
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I disagree. If you don't plan to keep your GT a long time, that's your call of course. I buy and hold. You're just burning cash otherwise.
The SLS was not selling in its last year or two of production. They were sitting on dealer lots.
I never said the GT will appreciate. I did say it will be coveted, and I 100% stand behind that. Let's check back in 10 years and see who was right.
The SLS was not selling in its last year or two of production. They were sitting on dealer lots.
I never said the GT will appreciate. I did say it will be coveted, and I 100% stand behind that. Let's check back in 10 years and see who was right.
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At this time I think I'm keeping my GTR till the next gen GTR equivalent is released which I'm guessing will be in 2-3 years from now. Or possibly go with a track only car (theirs a 914-6 on BAT that's killing me right now). I'm not sure I want to own this car outside of warranty so I've got 2 years to decide. In the mean time, let the beatings continue!
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Not sure how he is bringing the value of his car down by sharing an opinion...seems to be an opinion grounded in reality as well. Why can't we all just accept that these cars long term are going to be essentially worthless? 200k car with a long-term residual of what, 60k?
Who the hell cares what the value of a car is 10years after they bought it in the first place? What a strange thing to think about. Buy real estate instead.
And none of these cars are collectors cars nor will they be coveted after. Perhaps the Black Series but that will depend purely on production numbers...which should be released tomorrow...
Who the hell cares what the value of a car is 10years after they bought it in the first place? What a strange thing to think about. Buy real estate instead.
And none of these cars are collectors cars nor will they be coveted after. Perhaps the Black Series but that will depend purely on production numbers...which should be released tomorrow...
This, I just posted the numbers so he doesn't continue to make inaccurate claims.
I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I misquoted facts, or that my post has any bearing on the value of my car. I was just giving you the facts because you use that line often, and you're wrong.
