Originally Posted by SpokenHands

I hope you get one as they're absolutely stunning machines - and I picked one over some very competent rivals.

THE GOOD: Very capable sports GT with strong mechanical underpinnings and emotive sound

1. Excellent 4.0 lt V8 engine with some pretty spectacular performance numbers on the GTC
2. Emotive sound form the engine and exhaust at idle, and on the road. Exhaust sound is not crass - its pretty high end.
3. Very robust mechanicals, in particular superb suspension and braking systems
4. Nice balance of high-performance power and a luxurious cabin (compared to an Aston Martin, Ferrari or McLaren)
5. Can be used comfortably as a daily driver unlike many exotics and supercars. Does not bottom out at every speed bump or driveway incline which is a huge win for me.
6. Triple-layers roof fabric that is surprisingly good dampening road noise and keeping out the heat. Surprisingly practical.
7. You get a lot of admiring glances, thumbs up, smiles and phones out; not the ****ery reserved for Ferrari and Lambo drivers
8. The design will not age quickly, its sheer elegance and proportions likely push it into classics territory in about 10-15 years. Mine's a keeper.
9. Surprisingly good mpg and low emissions, if your country's road or car tax severely penalises both.
10. Annual 10000 mile services reasonable. Reassuringly expensive as I have described it. Not a dollar-sink.
11. AMG aftersales is pretty good - well trained techs (in the UK, the guy gave me his mobile number!) and Customer Service is very prompt and professional. Usual high standards of AMG goodwill even out of warranty **if you ask nicely**

THE BAD: Some weird eccentricities from the Merc AMG parts bin (not limited to the GTC); less frustrating than the Italians (cars, I mean, naturally) but there if you want it.

1. The centre console cup holder cover can sometimes stick open, you can lubricate it lightly & shake it free but it may stick again. Only solution is too (alarmingly) replace the centre console but it will stick again.
2. There is a very very light clattering sound when you drive hard (almost not many do hear) and that's the (butterfly) exhaust valve. There is a special grease but it wears off.
3. Drainage channels absolutely must to be cleaned every annual service - especially the ones near the doors (near the rear wheels) and the ones at the base of the windscreen. Gunk and leaves block it and cause expensive water ingress especially in the rear areas near ECU modules (read: very expensive)
4. Fuel filler flap is bonded to the rear quarter panel so any change there is a big job. This is if the fuel cap ever gets notchy or needs repair/replacing.
5. In general, replacement parts are not held in stock so there is the usual delay of back orders (hello supercars!) and you need an AMG trained Merc service garage (not all Merc dealerships have one despite the signage and gladly selling you one!!!)

THE UGLY: COMAND system getting a bit dated and don't get me started on the new centre console!!!!!

1. Not a fault per se, but the 2017-2019 models use the previous version of the MBUX COMAND system and interface (the screens, menus and Nav etc) are pretty dated. The MY2020 has improved things considerably. Likewise no native Apple CarPlan / Android Auto,
2. The MY2020 centre console has new haptic buttons and tiny screen graphics, rather than the chunky knobs which I love - and that I think have more character
3. That's about it, whats not to love!!!!

Coupe vs Roadster is a matter of personal choice and your geography.
All I will say is there is a reason why the Roadster is at a premium (beyond the roof system and stiffening) - it is seen as more Newport than Rosslyn (just a NY state thing, excuse me)
Arguably not the best choice in certain extreme climates, especially if you use it as a daily driver.

Suggestion:
Make sure you get the right spec - the standard GTC Roadster is not a dog, it comes well specified but there are some tasty OEM bits you can add on, before you go modding....
1. Seat Ventilation / Cooling
2. Forged 10-spoke Alloy Wheels from the AMG Performance Studio (in Black Chrome / Polished Gun Metal that came standard with the GTC Edition 50
3. A GTR styling kit that in an AMG Performance studio special order if thats what you want. Love the active rear diffuser from the GTR, couldnt live with the fixed aerofoil/rear wing.
4. On the 2017-2019 car, make sure you get the latest software updates that improve suspension and handling and also emissions. In Europe they do adjust exhaust noise though.

Is there a better high-performance sports GT?
Yes. Easy. The updated 2019/2020 Bentley Continental GTC. Does all of the above and oodles more.

Originally Posted by Orcbolg

As a heads up, you can get the same cushions for a LOT less on amazon. I bought the linked one for $16, and it's fantastic. The size of this particular one is comparable to the Purple Simply cushion ($60), albeit a little bit thicker.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Originally Posted by Saudio

NOW you tell me. ;-)

Originally Posted by Orcbolg

Better late than never! I almost pulled the trigger on the Purple branded ones as well, for my Jeep and my old office chair, before I stumbled onto the myriad of similar options on Amazon.

Originally Posted by Orcbolg

As a heads up, you can get the same cushions for a LOT less on amazon. I bought the linked one for $16, and it's fantastic. The size of this particular one is comparable to the Purple Simply cushion ($60), albeit a little bit thicker.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Originally Posted by Saudio

For my backside. I got the Royal because I drive a lot and move it from vehicle to vehicle, and that GTC seat is just like sitting on a stone slab to me. It's pretty spongy and sits you up a bit but really really comfortable. The Simple might be a good choice if you are only mildly uncomfortable. They have a good return policy if you want to switch.

A couple things to know, these things emit a bit of a chemical smell when left in a closed car (that goes away quickly), they have to be removed in extreme heat because they can melt, and they take a long time to warm up when it's cold outside. Minor issues compared to being uncomfortable IMHO.

Originally Posted by SpokenHands

A GTR styling kit that in an AMG Performance studio special order if thats what you want. Love the active rear diffuser from the GTR, couldnt live with the fixed aerofoil/rear wing.

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Couldn't imagine to compare an AMG GTC with a Bentley GTC. Vastly different cars. The updated Bentley is a surprisingly good car but it carries an extra 2000 lbs and you feel every ounce of it. A big Luxo cruiser vs an agile sports car.

Originally Posted by Acta_Non_Verba

I made a similar move - Bentley Continental GT to the AMG GT.

\At 6'5", and not fitting comfortably in lots of cars, the Bentley GT was the first car I've ever owned where I didn't need to have the seat back/down as far as it would go.

Originally Posted by SteveKoz

I appreciate all the replies. The heat I was referring to was from a video where he said he put his phone in the center compartment and it was so hot that his phone overheated. Said it was like a small oven. Guessing from the replies that's not true?

So we decided to visit the local MB dealer today. He had a 2019 GTC hard top that we've previously drooled over through the window. We were jumping back and forth between the GTC and SL550 with the top down playing with the experiences. He said, you want to hear the exhaust? Sure.. He fires up the GTC for a quick audio check. WOW.. We played for about 20 minutes and decided it was time to leave when he asks if we have time to take her out for a test drive.. DUHH... Let me say, ALL the videos I've watched EVERY TIME someone drives this car they say WOW and smile. We were actually laughing and not just that little chuckle. Deep satisfying laughing. This car was so much fun to drive. The cabin noise was a non issue and the road comfort wasn't bad at all. Not a long enough ride to get any sense of console heat.. Actually we were having so much fun the console heat didn't even come to mind. I'm guessing that exhaust BANG between shifting gears is normal? What an experience. We took out the SL550 just for the top down experience. Nice riding car and all but not the toy the GTC would be.

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Couldn't imagine to compare an AMG GTC with a Bentley GTC. Vastly different cars. The updated Bentley is a surprisingly good car but it carries an extra 2000 lbs and you feel every ounce of it. A big Luxo cruiser vs an agile sports car.

Originally Posted by Surge

I have a 2019 GTC coupe. There is no excessive cabin heat. I put lots of things in the central console armrest. Nothing gets warm, let alone hot. The trunk also doesn’t get hot.

Comfort - the GTC on OEM summer tires at the suggested tire pressure is more comfortable over potholes than my 2015 C63 507 Edition Coupe!
The seats in the GTC are a bit too firm though. But the suspension comfort and compliance is amazing for the type of car that it is. The OEM Michelin Super Sports are also not the most comfortable tire available.

The pre face lift, 2019 and 2018 MYs are the ones to get in my opinion: Sport+ is louder. I vastly prefer the original dash console round buttons that were bespoke to this car and meant tor resemble a V8. The analogue dials will be coveted by collectors in the not too distant future, it has a CD/DVD drive, and I don’t like the touch buttons and rotary controller on the new steering wheel.

Originally Posted by UCIMBZ

Let's add that the grill on the 2016-2017 also a reminiscent of the coveted SLS and more of a family resemblance to the AMG brand. Panamericana grill also has some historical significance but Panamericana now is being utilized in all mercedes models.

Originally Posted by California John

Very True. I am now sharing my wife's Bolt - which I enjoy as a nice transportation module. But actually for now it's fine. We've had it for three years and the fact that it has CarPlay and my GTC didn't is funny and testimony to Mercedes's intransigence...and slow-walking of new technologies. However to answer your question, I'm waiting for the prices to be public for a 2021 GTC. They are not available yet to order although I have seen the dealer order guide without prices. Not many changes for the final year of the model as we've known it. I would be happy with a 2021 for a couple of years. Great combo of speed, elegance, nastiness and comfort.

Originally Posted by AMG 17GT

The reason the exhaust pops is because some of the unburnt gas is let into the hot exhaust resulting in a secondary explosion. Some tunes can increase this or reduce it. If you drive less than 5000 miles a year just keep doing A services you can replace your own air filter and do all the other nonsense that are performed in the B service. The brake fluid does need to be changed after three years and the transmission fluid is re-changed every four years or 30,000 miles.

Originally Posted by SpokenHands

I hope you get one as they're absolutely stunning machines - and I picked one over some very competent rivals.

THE GOOD: Very capable sports GT with strong mechanical underpinnings and emotive sound

1. Excellent 4.0 lt V8 engine with some pretty spectacular performance numbers on the GTC
2. Emotive sound form the engine and exhaust at idle, and on the road. Exhaust sound is not crass - its pretty high end.
3. Very robust mechanicals, in particular superb suspension and braking systems
4. Nice balance of high-performance power and a luxurious cabin (compared to an Aston Martin, Ferrari or McLaren)
5. Can be used comfortably as a daily driver unlike many exotics and supercars. Does not bottom out at every speed bump or driveway incline which is a huge win for me.
6. Triple-layers roof fabric that is surprisingly good dampening road noise and keeping out the heat. Surprisingly practical.
7. You get a lot of admiring glances, thumbs up, smiles and phones out; not the ****ery reserved for Ferrari and Lambo drivers
8. The design will not age quickly, its sheer elegance and proportions likely push it into classics territory in about 10-15 years. Mine's a keeper.
9. Surprisingly good mpg and low emissions, if your country's road or car tax severely penalises both.
10. Annual 10000 mile services reasonable. Reassuringly expensive as I have described it. Not a dollar-sink.
11. AMG aftersales is pretty good - well trained techs (in the UK, the guy gave me his mobile number!) and Customer Service is very prompt and professional. Usual high standards of AMG goodwill even out of warranty **if you ask nicely**

THE BAD: Some weird eccentricities from the Merc AMG parts bin (not limited to the GTC); less frustrating than the Italians (cars, I mean, naturally) but there if you want it.

1. The centre console cup holder cover can sometimes stick open, you can lubricate it lightly & shake it free but it may stick again. Only solution is too (alarmingly) replace the centre console but it will stick again.
2. There is a very very light clattering sound when you drive hard (almost not many do hear) and that's the (butterfly) exhaust valve. There is a special grease but it wears off.
3. Drainage channels absolutely must to be cleaned every annual service - especially the ones near the doors (near the rear wheels) and the ones at the base of the windscreen. Gunk and leaves block it and cause expensive water ingress especially in the rear areas near ECU modules (read: very expensive)
4. Fuel filler flap is bonded to the rear quarter panel so any change there is a big job. This is if the fuel cap ever gets notchy or needs repair/replacing.
5. In general, replacement parts are not held in stock so there is the usual delay of back orders (hello supercars!) and you need an AMG trained Merc service garage (not all Merc dealerships have one despite the signage and gladly selling you one!!!)

THE UGLY: COMAND system getting a bit dated and don't get me started on the new centre console!!!!!

1. Not a fault per se, but the 2017-2019 models use the previous version of the MBUX COMAND system and interface (the screens, menus and Nav etc) are pretty dated. The MY2020 has improved things considerably. Likewise no native Apple CarPlan / Android Auto,
2. The MY2020 centre console has new haptic buttons and tiny screen graphics, rather than the chunky knobs which I love - and that I think have more character
3. That's about it, whats not to love!!!!

Coupe vs Roadster is a matter of personal choice and your geography.
All I will say is there is a reason why the Roadster is at a premium (beyond the roof system and stiffening) - it is seen as more Newport than Rosslyn (just a NY state thing, excuse me)
Arguably not the best choice in certain extreme climates, especially if you use it as a daily driver.

Suggestion:
Make sure you get the right spec - the standard GTC Roadster is not a dog, it comes well specified but there are some tasty OEM bits you can add on, before you go modding....
1. Seat Ventilation / Cooling
2. Forged 10-spoke Alloy Wheels from the AMG Performance Studio (in Black Chrome / Polished Gun Metal that came standard with the GTC Edition 50
3. A GTR styling kit that in an AMG Performance studio special order if thats what you want. Love the active rear diffuser from the GTR, couldnt live with the fixed aerofoil/rear wing.
4. On the 2017-2019 car, make sure you get the latest software updates that improve suspension and handling and also emissions. In Europe they do adjust exhaust noise though.

Is there a better high-performance sports GT?
Yes. Easy. The updated 2019/2020 Bentley Continental GTC. Does all of the above and oodles more.