GTR front active aero retrofit on GTC
#27
Super Member
Hi,
The rubberpart is Nr. 60 = A1908850601 approx. 380USD
Best regards
Stenzel
The rubberpart is Nr. 60 = A1908850601 approx. 380USD
Best regards
Stenzel
Last edited by Stenzel-Germany; 01-27-2023 at 08:51 PM.
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Surge (04-23-2023)
#29
Member
Ha. I wished it was $380. It's listed as $1,170 here in the US. Some dealers selling for less but not that low.
https://mbparts.mbusa.com/oem-parts/...ler-1908850601
Mine was a bit torn. Managed to fix it with glue. Let's see how long it lasts.
https://mbparts.mbusa.com/oem-parts/...ler-1908850601
Mine was a bit torn. Managed to fix it with glue. Let's see how long it lasts.
Last edited by LAsunset; 01-27-2023 at 04:57 PM.
#30
Super Member
Hi,
Buy in Germany. Shipping to USA 50 USD?
Best regards
Stenzel
Buy in Germany. Shipping to USA 50 USD?
Best regards
Stenzel
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MBNRG (01-28-2023)
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#32
Senior Member
Thread Starter
"Did you manage to activate the front splitter automatically? or by manual switch?"
I can activate it manually with a wireless remote ...
I can activate it manually with a wireless remote ...
#33
Member
I was also thinking to run a sensing wire from the rear spoiler system, which deploy at 44mph and retract when the car slows down to 50mph and use it to open and close the front active aero system. In addition, to have a manual switch to deactivate altogether for normal driving like daily driving. (As a reference, the OEM GTR aero opens at 75mph and closes when slowing down to 38mph)
#34
Super Member
Hi,
Thanks.
The easiest way is to order spare parts online from Mercedes-Benz.
Doesn't help here, the problem is, they do not shipping to USA.
I can do that in an emergency. I'll consider a price difference of 700 USD as an emergency. :-)
Of course, the US shipping costs (customs fees?) are added.
Kind regards.
Stenzel
Last edited by Stenzel-Germany; 01-28-2023 at 11:17 PM.
#35
Senior Member
Thread Starter
I have a GTC and I was contemplating if to install this retrofit. Do you feel that there is a benefit to have it for daily driving? spirited? or just on track?
I was also thinking to run a sensing wire from the rear spoiler system, which deploy at 44mph and retract when the car slows down to 50mph and use it to open and close the front active aero system. In addition, to have a manual switch to deactivate altogether for normal driving like daily driving. (As a reference, the OEM GTR aero opens at 75mph and closes when slowing down to 38mph)
I was also thinking to run a sensing wire from the rear spoiler system, which deploy at 44mph and retract when the car slows down to 50mph and use it to open and close the front active aero system. In addition, to have a manual switch to deactivate altogether for normal driving like daily driving. (As a reference, the OEM GTR aero opens at 75mph and closes when slowing down to 38mph)
I Don't realy feel a difference at low speed , but once deployed and you reach like around 50-60 mph , you kind of feel the direction become kind of heavier in a good way.
Also I feel less lift in the front when driving above 70/80 mph-
more technical infos:
"
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- All-New Active Aerodynamics Profile in the Underbody
A special engineering feature is the completelμ new active aerodμnamics profile, which is concealed almost invisiblμ in the underbodμ in front of the engine and thus blends in harmoniouslμ with the overall silhouette.
Multiple functions are combined when the device is deploμed: a reduction of frontal lift (CLF); an increase of engine cooling and also an increase in brake cooling. This multi-purpose feature reduces the drag (CD) at the same time without increasing of the rear lift (CLR) of the car (Fig. 4).
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Fig. 4. Aerodμnamic profile in the underbodμ
The aerodμnamic profile deploμed on the underbodμ at a speed of 80 km/h in “RACE” mode, and at l20 km/h in “Comfort”, “Sport” and “Sport Plus” modes. This carbon fibre element, which onlμ weighs around two kilograms, automaticallμ moves approximatelμ 40 mm down (Fig. 5).
This process involves considerable change in the airflow and results in what is known as the Venturi effect, which additionallμ presses the car onto the road and reduces the front-axle lift bμ around 40 kg at 250 km/h. When the AMG GT R in “RACE” mode drives slower than 60 km/h or slower than 80 km/h in “Comfort”, “Sport” and “Sport Plus” modes, the aerodμnamics profile moves back in. To protect against damage, the component is spring-mounted and can therefore flex upwards easilμ.
Mercedes-AMG GTR: Aerodμnamics for the Record l39
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Fig. 5. Description of the underbodμ aero profile
The driver can feel the advantages of this aerodμnamic feature at the steering wheel: the AMG GT R is even more precise to steer when cornering at high speed and exhibits even better directional stabilitμ. Speciallμ during fast cornering and under high lateral acceleration, the AMG GT R delivers far more agile response with clear steering-wheel feedback while remaining easilμ controllable at all times.
The efficiencμ of this feature can be proved comparing it to standard features such as a splitter and flics (Fig. 6). In order to generate the same lift forces and lift balance, it would be necessarμ to mount a 60 mm (almost 24 in.) front splitter and flics, increasing the drag coefficient significantlμ.
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Fig. 6. Splitter proportions and flics to generate similar frontal lift (CLF) as the active aero sμstem on the underbodμ
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Fig. 7. Flow through the cooling sμstem when the aerodμnamic profile is deploμed and front louvres are opened
This improves the handling stabilitμ of the rear axle while reducing the temperature level of the hotspots at the rear. At the same time, the aerodμnamic package ensures optimized braking power bμ routing more cold air to the wheel discs specificallμ. When the profile is deploμed, the braking-duct-diffusor on the underbodμ increases its depth bμ almost 50%, directing the necessarμ clean cold air to the brakes."
#36
Member
Thanks for the info mbjj57.
In order to retrofit the Aero to the GTC did you install just the items under #10 (in the parts drawing)? or did you also add the other tray #300?
Also, I see sone vents on the picture bellow (circle in red). Is this part of the #300 tray, or standard on the GTR? i don't see it on my GTC.
In order to retrofit the Aero to the GTC did you install just the items under #10 (in the parts drawing)? or did you also add the other tray #300?
Also, I see sone vents on the picture bellow (circle in red). Is this part of the #300 tray, or standard on the GTR? i don't see it on my GTC.
#37
Super Member
Hi G.P,
Upper picture:
You need the pieces from the red circle.
Part #300 is behind part #10 and is the cover under the engine.
Should be the same.
Bottom picture:
The vents in the red circle in the picture below are part of the inner fender lining.
These belong to the front brake cooling. Only the GTR-Pro has this brake cooling as standard.
Kind regards
Stenzel
Upper picture:
You need the pieces from the red circle.
Part #300 is behind part #10 and is the cover under the engine.
Should be the same.
Bottom picture:
The vents in the red circle in the picture below are part of the inner fender lining.
These belong to the front brake cooling. Only the GTR-Pro has this brake cooling as standard.
Kind regards
Stenzel
#38
Member
Hi G.P,
Upper picture:
You need the pieces from the red circle.
Part #300 is behind part #10 and is the cover under the engine.
Should be the same.
Bottom picture:
The vents in the red circle in the picture below are part of the inner fender lining.
These belong to the front brake cooling. Only the GTR-Pro has this brake cooling as standard.
Kind regards
Stenzel
Upper picture:
You need the pieces from the red circle.
Part #300 is behind part #10 and is the cover under the engine.
Should be the same.
Bottom picture:
The vents in the red circle in the picture below are part of the inner fender lining.
These belong to the front brake cooling. Only the GTR-Pro has this brake cooling as standard.
Kind regards
Stenzel
#39
Member
Hi G.P,
Upper picture:
You need the pieces from the red circle.
Part #300 is behind part #10 and is the cover under the engine.
Should be the same.
Bottom picture:
The vents in the red circle in the picture below are part of the inner fender lining.
These belong to the front brake cooling. Only the GTR-Pro has this brake cooling as standard.
Kind regards
Stenzel
Upper picture:
You need the pieces from the red circle.
Part #300 is behind part #10 and is the cover under the engine.
Should be the same.
Bottom picture:
The vents in the red circle in the picture below are part of the inner fender lining.
These belong to the front brake cooling. Only the GTR-Pro has this brake cooling as standard.
Kind regards
Stenzel
i assume that items# 240 and up need to be ordered separately?
#40
Senior Member
Thread Starter
yes only parts needed are in the red circle "10".
also the duct circled in red is an add on attached with rivets ( air duct to direct air to the actual brake ducts for the amg gtr pro )
there is a complete unit for sale on ebay
https://www.ebay.de/p/4048127709
#41
Member
Hi Stenzel,
Is there any way to find out the part number of the wiring harness that lead from the Active Aero unit (190-520-0600) to its controller on the GTR?
I want to explore the possibility if this provisioning for the active aero exist on the GTC but missing the connection harness or other components.
If you or anyone in this form have access to this info, it will be greatly appreciated.
Is there any way to find out the part number of the wiring harness that lead from the Active Aero unit (190-520-0600) to its controller on the GTR?
I want to explore the possibility if this provisioning for the active aero exist on the GTC but missing the connection harness or other components.
If you or anyone in this form have access to this info, it will be greatly appreciated.
#42
Super Member
Hi,
This is normally part of the basic wiring harness on the frame.
This has to be ordered with the VIN and is extremely expensive.
Will not be available individually. I couldn't find anything.
Here is probably only a one-off production.
Best regards
Stenzel
This is normally part of the basic wiring harness on the frame.
This has to be ordered with the VIN and is extremely expensive.
Will not be available individually. I couldn't find anything.
Here is probably only a one-off production.
Best regards
Stenzel