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Old 01-19-2022, 10:12 AM
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Question Opinion Needed - In the market for a AMG

Greetings!

New to the forum as I leave the BMW world and step into the AMG Family.

Currently on the market looking preferably for a GTR (Coupe) however also considering the GT or GTS spec models. Only looking to spend no more than 100k and plan on turning this beast into my new DD. Looking for some Pro Tips from you fine people on things to looks for. Trying to stay "CPO" seems to break my cap so i may end up going the typical "Used" route. Any advice or things I should look for?

Thanks in advance for your input!

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Your profile shows overseas. Are you shopping for a car in the US? Europe?

From what little info above - If you're going to DD in the US and, combined with looking for a CPO possibly - Make sure you purchase a car that has been unmolested. Namely, tunes done and cats removed. Based on where (what state) you might be DDing it, you can make a big mistake buying one modded and it can get very expensive trying to reverse these mods. Even be careful and inspect a CPO, but these mods should not have slipped past an inspection.

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Which Bimmer are you coming from? I've had BMWs going back to a Bavaria in 1971 through an i8 and M4 before buying my 2018 AMG GT.

Based on what car you're coming from I may be able to give some relevant advice. (Generally, there is a world of difference between the GT and the GTR.)
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Originally Posted by Acta_Non_Verba
Your profile shows overseas. Are you shopping for a car in the US? Europe?

From what little info above - If you're going to DD in the US and, combined with looking for a CPO possibly - Make sure you purchase a car that has been unmolested. Namely, tunes done and cats removed. Based on where (what state) you might be DDing it, you can make a big mistake buying one modded and it can get very expensive trying to reverse these mods. Even be careful and inspect a CPO, but these mods should not have slipped past an inspection.
​​​​​​​I currently work in Kuwait as a Contractor and getting ready to transition back to the US in the NOVA region.

Trying to stick strictly from purchasing from MB directly some random dealer. Just not sure if a CPO in my cost range is going to pop up in this market with under 30k miles on her.

I may also be doing purchase sight unseen to beat the slowly rising cost. My folks would be accepting the vehicle if I push forward with a purchase.

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Which Bimmer are you coming from? I've had BMWs going back to a Bavaria in 1971 through an i8 and M4 before buying my 2018 AMG GT.

Based on what car you're coming from I may be able to give some relevant advice. (Generally, there is a world of difference between the GT and the GTR.)
Coming from a 2007 335i heavily modified. Currently in a Vette now so thought after being in Kuwait after 8 years why not treat myself. Fairly open to either model of GT, figured the GTR spec would be a tad more suiting to an aggressive driver and potentially a few mods down the line.
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Originally Posted by SRDrucifer
Coming from a 2007 335i heavily modified. Currently in a Vette now so thought after being in Kuwait after 8 years why not treat myself. Fairly open to either model of GT, figured the GTR spec would be a tad more suiting to an aggressive driver and potentially a few mods down the line.
Pricing will get in the way of your selection. GTR's here, especially CPO's seem to be hovering in the $170k region. $100k will get you a nice example of GT/GTS, properly spec'd.
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I'm not sure if you meant $100k price limit on top of trade in, or max. If max, then a used GTS is where you'll be looking, and it would be a tad more comfortable to DD when compared with the GTR. You won't find the end of either car's performance limits on the streets, so I wouldn't be concerned with that, especially if you plan to mod the car down the line.
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GT or GTS is probably what you want. As the other posters indicate, price will be a limitation (assuming the $100K is the top price you will pay). The GT is a little softer than the GTS, but the GTR rides hard and is neither within your price range nor likely to be a DD.

Good luck. Tell us what you get. (And we will need photos!)
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Originally Posted by SRDrucifer
I currently work in Kuwait as a Contractor and getting ready to transition back to the US in the NOVA region.

Trying to stick strictly from purchasing from MB directly some random dealer. Just not sure if a CPO in my cost range is going to pop up in this market with under 30k miles on her.

I may also be doing purchase sight unseen to beat the slowly rising cost. My folks would be accepting the vehicle if I push forward with a purchase.
If you're going to do a non-MB dealer use particular "due-diligence" to ensure you're not getting a modded car. Many non MB dealers are just taking in trade-ins w/o doing the due-diligence themselves, then pass the car onto some buyer. If you're in the wrong state, the car won't pass emissions, so if DDing is important to you and you'll need to pass emissions, you'll want to do the upfront work.

There are already cases of some MB dealers (one member here had it happen) that will reject a car on a trade in if it has emissions components missing or modified. That includes intakes, tunes and factory cats removed. Since the administration change, EPA is really bulking up and States are beginning to beef up emissions inspections to include visual, and diagnostics to test for altered ECUs. With 3 more years left to go before a possible admin changeover (maybe, maybe not) we're only at the starting point. I know of some used car owners on other forums that had to sue sellers (dealers and private parties) when they bought cars and mods were undisclosed.

On your comment about a CPO - I think you can be right at the threshold for a CPO in a GT, given your budget, but probably a little tight for a GTS, and not now if it is a GTR.
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Originally Posted by SRDrucifer
Greetings!

New to the forum as I leave the BMW world and step into the AMG Family.

Currently on the market looking preferably for a GTR (Coupe) however also considering the GT or GTS spec models. Only looking to spend no more than 100k and plan on turning this beast into my new DD. Looking for some Pro Tips from you fine people on things to looks for. Trying to stay "CPO" seems to break my cap so i may end up going the typical "Used" route. Any advice or things I should look for?

Thanks in advance for your input!
If you are going to buy sight unseen go the CPO route. Stick with the GT or GTS(if you can find one in your price range). GTR is not an everyday car and I seriously doubt you will find one for $100,000.
This is not a car you want to be cheap with. Spend a little more for a CPO car and enjoy it!
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Being a GTR owner it’s definitely not a daily drivable car plus pricing at the moment are 160-200k depending on the year and mileage

Buy a GTS and modify it the way u want to or if it comes pre-modded i.e tune, downpipes and exhaust then thats even better (If you live in a state that allows it).. dont let softies on here demotivate u
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From my experience with the GTR I doubt there's anyone in this world that dailys it. I would go for GT CPO, GTS will be tight with ur price range.
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Hi,

I use my GTR as a daily. It is my only registered vehicle. Why not?
Got the European track package with bucket seats. Very convenient.
The chassis is not stiff in C mode and is completely suitable for everyday use.
Trunk is enough for shopping. LOL

But have the advantage, I don't have to drive every day and in all weather conditions (slippery). If the weather is bad, I stay at home.
With winter tires, that wouldn't be a problem either.

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Im selling my 2018 AMG GTC coupe which fits in your price range. Entire car is wrapped in expel PPF, never modded. Some minor curb rash on wheels otherwise its in mint condition. Im at 44k miles - still under factory warranty. PM me if youre interested.

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Hi,

I use my GTR as a daily. It is my only registered vehicle. Why not?
Got the European track package with bucket seats. Very convenient.
The chassis is not stiff in C mode and is completely suitable for everyday use.
Trunk is enough for shopping. LOL

But have the advantage, I don't have to drive every day and in all weather conditions (slippery). If the weather is bad, I stay at home.
With winter tires, that wouldn't be a problem either.

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I commend you I actually enjoy the GTR in S+ exclusively even on long 2-3 hour drives with the dampers set on the stiffest setting. Otherwise the car is not practical for me to use as a daily in Canadian weather .
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At that price range a GTS with Dynamic Plus Package and ECU tune will get you "near" GTR result with DD characteristics.
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At that price range a GTS with Dynamic Plus Package and ECU tune will get you "near" GTR result with DD characteristics.

Agree - If the goal is street warrior slash daily driver, a tune will get you in that range with anything you can pull off on the street, w/o the extra $50K for an R.
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To the OP - a 2018 GTR is coming around on BAT. It is out of the price range you stated, but it might help to set prices in your mind as a datapoint:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-amg-gtr-14/

Here is a second 2018 GTR on auction with 31 miles??

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...benz-amg-gt-r/

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Im selling my 2018 AMG GTC coupe which fits in your price range. Entire car is wrapped in expel PPF, never modded. Some minor curb rash on wheels otherwise its in mint condition. Im at 44k miles - still under factory warranty. PM me if youre interested.
If the mileage is acceptable I'd take a GTC over a GTS any day. Most GTS options are already in the base GTC (like DPP) plus you get the rear wheel steering, wider rear and the GTR engine/turbo/gear ratio setup just minus 27hp power. Still almost 50hp over the GTS.
Plus it's the facelift model...

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If the mileage is acceptable I'd take a GTC over a GTS any day. Most GTS options are already in the base GTC (like DPP) plus you get the rear wheel steering, wider rear and the GTR engine/turbo/gear ratio setup just minus 27hp power. Still almost 50hp over the GTS.
Plus it's the facelift model...
Agree, personally I think the GTR and GTC have more of an "exotic" look to them (more road presence) due to the wider body. Mine is also optioned pretty nicely
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If the mileage is acceptable I'd take a GTC over a GTS any day. Most GTS options are already in the base GTC (like DPP) plus you get the rear wheel steering, wider rear and the GTR engine/turbo/gear ratio setup just minus 27hp power. Still almost 50hp over the GTS.
Plus it's the facelift model...

Ditto. If you were OK with mileage up to 30K, 44K is not a leap. For less than $100K, assuming there aren't any surprises and the color is on your acceptable list, I'd grab this one.
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If trying to stay around 100K, i'd say GT. I was able to get a 2019 GT for just over 100K a few months back. 2019 models will still have factory warranty. Just make sure to get one with the exhaust option.
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I daily drive a fully modded BMW 135, likely similar to your 335, not at all similar to my 2017 GTS, which I sorta daily drive. I'll daily drive the GTS if it's not raining and I know I can park where it won't be so likely to get door dings, etc. My last Vette was a 1993 back in the day. I guess that car does remind me the most of my GT among my other Porsche, Audi, etc. Good luck with your choice, I'm sure you'll love it.
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Originally Posted by Acta_Non_Verba
To the OP - a 2018 GTR is coming around on BAT. It is out of the price range you stated, but it might help to set prices in your mind as a datapoint:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...nz-amg-gtr-14/

Here is a second 2018 GTR on auction with 31 miles??

https://www.pcarmarket.com/auction/2...benz-amg-gt-r/
Well, I may end up having to go the GT GTS route that price point. Given the few mods i want to get done, my preference would be way under that price point. Thanks for the tip!


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