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Looks nice. Watch for beta-product problems with the battery driving the hybrid "E Performance" axle. Personally I wouldn't touch it with any length pole. MB has shown on two platform launches that they can't get batteries, or much of anything else, right.
If it's the coupe version of the SL (it sure looks like it but I haven't seen any interior photos), it will be a pig -- over 4,000 lbs.
Maybe try closer to 5000 lbs. The V8 E Performance powertrain adds 500 lbs by itself if that's what they gonna put in it. So the SL is like 4300-4400 lbs already. Add 500 lbs to the powertrain and it's at 4800-4900 lbs. They might be able to save 100-200 lbs from not having the folding roof and needing less additional chassis braces, but the roof will add some weight back. I drove the GT 63 S E Performance back to back with the regular GT 63 S and that 500 lbs from the E Performance powertrain was very detrimental. It looks like the GT might start to live up to its name and become an actual heavy grand tourer for cruising mostly. Not the track car it used to be, unless they gonna go all carbon fiber with the body.
Last edited by superswiss; 03-19-2023 at 05:45 PM.
2020 GTA; 2022 Audi e-tron GT, 2022 Ford F-150; 1926 Rolls-Royce Springfield 40/50 Playboy roadster
Originally Posted by superswiss
Maybe try closer to 5000 lbs. The V8 E Performance powertrain adds 500 lbs by itself if that's what they gonna put in it. So the SL is like 4300-4400 lbs already. Add 500 lbs to the powertrain and it's at 4800-4900 lbs. They might be able to save 100-200 lbs from not having the folding roof and needing less additional chassis braces, but the roof will add some weight back. I drove the GT 63 S E Performance back to back with the regular GT 63 S and that 500 lbs from the E Performance powertrain was very detrimental. It looks like the GT might start to live up to its name and become an actual heavy grand tourer for cruising mostly. Not the track car it used to be, unless they gonna go all carbon fiber with the body.
Remember that convertibles are always heavier than coupes. That's why I'm going to guess maybe 4200 lbs.
Remember that convertibles are always heavier than coupes. That's why I'm going to guess maybe 4200 lbs.
Which is why I said they save maybe 100-200 lbs over the convertible. Maybe a bit more since the GT is gonna be a two seater. Just for reference, there is less than a 100 lbs difference between the GT C coupe and roadster.
Sadly that's the new AMG and I wouldn't get my hopes up for the new GT. The new C63S E Performance is a 4600 lbs hulk of complicated powertrain that you most definitely don't wanna own past the factory warranty and with AWD all the fun the C63 used to be is gone. The new S63 E Performance is a 6000 lbs I don't really know what, inheriting the powertrain from the terrible GT63S E Performance. After driving the GT63SE back to back with the GT63S on the Nürburgring, I don't know what the SE is supposed to be other than a showcase for an overcomplicated powertrain that doesn't quite gel together and nobody asked for in the first place. And everything is going AWD just because some people think they need AWD because it snows a few times a year where they live and the rest of the year all this extra weight and complication has to be dragged around. Even Audi followed Lambo by releasing several RWD versions of the R8 and they were better than the AWD versions, same for the Huracan.
Sorry it took this long to find this thread. Is there a possibility that F-1 audineces are getting pulled into a marketing scheme that asks "You want to drive a car with an F-1 drivetrain?" And then show a few faces of the drivers... Create a market where there was none.
Sorry it took this long to find this thread. Is there a possibility that F-1 audineces are getting pulled into a marketing scheme that asks "You want to drive a car with an F-1 drivetrain?" And then show a few faces of the drivers... Create a market where there was none.
Something along those lines, but the only AMG with an actual F1 powertrain is the AMG One aided by additional e-motors. The rest of the E Performance models have an F1 derived battery and at most an electric turbo with inspiration from the F1 MGU-H, but the real MGU-H is very different from the electric turbo chargers in the new C43 and C63, and which F1 car has a puny 4 cylinder engine only revving to something like 6000 rpm? Even the AMG One with its lowered redline revs to a staggering 11,000 rpm and needs an engine rebuild every 50k miles. That's F1 in a road car, but I don't know what the other E Performance models are supposed to be.
Last edited by superswiss; 04-20-2023 at 04:54 PM.
2023 Urus Performante - 2021 Ferrari Roma - 2017 Ferrari 488 GTB - 2022 GLE 63 S Coupe
AMG isn't building battery powered porkers because they want to. Like all manufacturers they are being "forced" into this by legislation. I fully expect a "muzzled fart" sounding pig with a hideous petri dish center screen. No thanks.
2020 GTA; 2022 Audi e-tron GT, 2022 Ford F-150; 1926 Rolls-Royce Springfield 40/50 Playboy roadster
Does the interior have unusable back seats (except for insurance purposes)? If so, the proportions will be off.
With apologies to my friends who have the new SL, I have seen it in the wild and it is ungainly. At first I thought it was a C series convertible. It's just not quite right. The AMG GT vehicles got the proportions exactly right with the long front end and mid engine placement.
I agree with MalibuScott on first looks... saw one last Nov at Hilton Head and it just had this un-inspiring shape... plus the TV screen just did me in...
I think if you have a GTC, GTR or Pro, you are in the sweet spot... The engine, tranny and suspension are a really great combination...Yes, the GT is heavier than I wish it was and it makes it difficult to track down a GT3 or RS... but for aggressive back road and mountain curves, this MB series delivers..
Mercedes will probably sell a bunch of the new SL's in various forms to individual's who know nothing about this forum nor care about the performance characteristics as they drive to the grocery store...
I'm going to keep my "old" pooch and drive off into the sunset with a smile...
03-18-2023, 04:56 AM
