Let’s hope Mercedes hasn’t really screwed the Pooch
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Looks nice. Watch for beta-product problems with the battery driving the hybrid "E Performance" axle. Personally I wouldn't touch it with any length pole. MB has shown on two platform launches that they can't get batteries, or much of anything else, right.
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Looks better than I’ve seen it before. Best to keep a valid warranty running on it with such a complex drivetrain!!
Wonder what the weight will be?
Wonder what the weight will be?
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If it's the coupe version of the SL (it sure looks like it but I haven't seen any interior photos), it will be a pig -- over 4,000 lbs.
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Maybe try closer to 5000 lbs. The V8 E Performance powertrain adds 500 lbs by itself if that's what they gonna put in it. So the SL is like 4300-4400 lbs already. Add 500 lbs to the powertrain and it's at 4800-4900 lbs. They might be able to save 100-200 lbs from not having the folding roof and needing less additional chassis braces, but the roof will add some weight back. I drove the GT 63 S E Performance back to back with the regular GT 63 S and that 500 lbs from the E Performance powertrain was very detrimental. It looks like the GT might start to live up to its name and become an actual heavy grand tourer for cruising mostly. Not the track car it used to be, unless they gonna go all carbon fiber with the body.
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Maybe try closer to 5000 lbs. The V8 E Performance powertrain adds 500 lbs by itself if that's what they gonna put in it. So the SL is like 4300-4400 lbs already. Add 500 lbs to the powertrain and it's at 4800-4900 lbs. They might be able to save 100-200 lbs from not having the folding roof and needing less additional chassis braces, but the roof will add some weight back. I drove the GT 63 S E Performance back to back with the regular GT 63 S and that 500 lbs from the E Performance powertrain was very detrimental. It looks like the GT might start to live up to its name and become an actual heavy grand tourer for cruising mostly. Not the track car it used to be, unless they gonna go all carbon fiber with the body.
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Which is why I said they save maybe 100-200 lbs over the convertible. Maybe a bit more since the GT is gonna be a two seater. Just for reference, there is less than a 100 lbs difference between the GT C coupe and roadster.
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Sadly that's the new AMG and I wouldn't get my hopes up for the new GT. The new C63S E Performance is a 4600 lbs hulk of complicated powertrain that you most definitely don't wanna own past the factory warranty and with AWD all the fun the C63 used to be is gone. The new S63 E Performance is a 6000 lbs I don't really know what, inheriting the powertrain from the terrible GT63S E Performance. After driving the GT63SE back to back with the GT63S on the Nürburgring, I don't know what the SE is supposed to be other than a showcase for an overcomplicated powertrain that doesn't quite gel together and nobody asked for in the first place. And everything is going AWD just because some people think they need AWD because it snows a few times a year where they live and the rest of the year all this extra weight and complication has to be dragged around. Even Audi followed Lambo by releasing several RWD versions of the R8 and they were better than the AWD versions, same for the Huracan.
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Sorry it took this long to find this thread. Is there a possibility that F-1 audineces are getting pulled into a marketing scheme that asks "You want to drive a car with an F-1 drivetrain?" And then show a few faces of the drivers... Create a market where there was none.
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AMG isn't building battery powered porkers because they want to. Like all manufacturers they are being "forced" into this by legislation. I fully expect a "muzzled fart" sounding pig with a hideous petri dish center screen. No thanks.
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Does the interior have unusable back seats (except for insurance purposes)? If so, the proportions will be off.
With apologies to my friends who have the new SL, I have seen it in the wild and it is ungainly. At first I thought it was a C series convertible. It's just not quite right. The AMG GT vehicles got the proportions exactly right with the long front end and mid engine placement.
With apologies to my friends who have the new SL, I have seen it in the wild and it is ungainly. At first I thought it was a C series convertible. It's just not quite right. The AMG GT vehicles got the proportions exactly right with the long front end and mid engine placement.
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I agree with MalibuScott on first looks... saw one last Nov at Hilton Head and it just had this un-inspiring shape... plus the TV screen just did me in...
I think if you have a GTC, GTR or Pro, you are in the sweet spot... The engine, tranny and suspension are a really great combination...Yes, the GT is heavier than I wish it was and it makes it difficult to track down a GT3 or RS... but for aggressive back road and mountain curves, this MB series delivers..
Mercedes will probably sell a bunch of the new SL's in various forms to individual's who know nothing about this forum nor care about the performance characteristics as they drive to the grocery store...
I'm going to keep my "old" pooch and drive off into the sunset with a smile...
I think if you have a GTC, GTR or Pro, you are in the sweet spot... The engine, tranny and suspension are a really great combination...Yes, the GT is heavier than I wish it was and it makes it difficult to track down a GT3 or RS... but for aggressive back road and mountain curves, this MB series delivers..
Mercedes will probably sell a bunch of the new SL's in various forms to individual's who know nothing about this forum nor care about the performance characteristics as they drive to the grocery store...
I'm going to keep my "old" pooch and drive off into the sunset with a smile...
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Well, saw this video the other day, there are definitely chances there are parts installed to confuse people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9c_2o15jqc
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These are one of those things that will be a big "why" like the piano gloss surround on the W214 grille, when it is not an EQ model.
