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2020 GTA; 2022 Audi e-tron GT, 2022 Ford F-150; 1926 Rolls-Royce Springfield 40/50 Playboy roadster
If the 2024 GT is simply the SL body with a hardtop I will be disappointed. The length of the hood and whether it has rear seats (which no one can sit in) are the most important things to me. And whether it is mid engine will be a function of both of those items.
If the 2024 GT is simply the SL body with a hardtop I will be disappointed. The length of the hood and whether it has rear seats (which no one can sit in) are the most important things to me. And whether it is mid engine will be a function of both of those items.
Since both cars run on the same platform, the basic configuration is unchanged.
AWD, front engine with an attached 9 speed MCT. So the hood is shorter and the butt not as wide.
Still not a bad looking car. I assume/hope no rear seats, but my concern is weight.
I do expect a more performance tuned suspension, more power, more active aero.
If they launch the ePerformance, they better deliver some magic for that ungodly weight gain.
2023 Urus Performante - 2021 Ferrari Roma - 2017 Ferrari 488 GTB - 2022 GLE 63 S Coupe
Originally Posted by Wolfman
Since both cars run on the same platform, the basic configuration is unchanged.
AWD, front engine with an attached 9 speed MCT. So the hood is shorter and the butt not as wide.
Still not a bad looking car. I assume/hope no rear seats, but my concern is weight.
I do expect a more performance tuned suspension, more power, more active aero.
If they launch the ePerformance, they better deliver some magic for that ungodly weight gain.
Problem with ePerformance is understandably their are too many quirks since everything is mostly new. Of course engineers worked out what they could but they need the masses to be guinea pigs and at least several years to even begin to get it sorted. It's just not there yet. Not even close.
Problem with ePerformance is understandably their are too many quirks since everything is mostly new. Of course engineers worked out what they could but they need the masses to be guinea pigs and at least several years to even begin to get it sorted. It's just not there yet. Not even close.
Agreed. That has been the feedback on the GT63s E and I have seen some similar ones on the new C63s
2023 Urus Performante - 2021 Ferrari Roma - 2017 Ferrari 488 GTB - 2022 GLE 63 S Coupe
Originally Posted by Wolfman
Agreed. That has been the feedback on the GT63s E and I have seen some similar ones on the new C63s
With that said I do feel for AMG. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place by having to follow mandated BS political agendas whilst trying to sell cars and keep customers excited. It's the same with all manufacturers right now.
With that said I do feel for AMG. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place by having to follow mandated BS political agendas whilst trying to sell cars and keep customers excited. It's the same with all manufacturers right now.
I'm not sure I feel the same. They could do it differently. Porsche launched the Taycan and left the 911 alone, at least for now. They sell two Taycans for every 911 to meet the fleet average, but they do it. BMW has also gone a different path. Instead of developing EV only platforms they share the platform and have electric equivalents for their ICE helping them meet the fleet average w/o going down the hybrid route. I think AMG is trying to recoup the fortune they put into the One hybrid powertrain by sticking a watered down version into every future AMG.
2023 Urus Performante - 2021 Ferrari Roma - 2017 Ferrari 488 GTB - 2022 GLE 63 S Coupe
Originally Posted by superswiss
I'm not sure I feel the same. They could do it differently. Porsche launched the Taycan and left the 911 alone, at least for now. They sell two Taycans for every 911 to meet the fleet average, but they do it. BMW has also gone a different path. Instead of developing EV only platforms they share the platform and have electric equivalents for their ICE helping them meet the fleet average w/o going down the hybrid route. I think AMG is trying to recoup the fortune they put into the One hybrid powertrain by sticking a watered down version into every future AMG.
Of course others are doing it differently. My point is they are all having to do it.
Whatever it is it will never be an improvement on the C190. I honestly dont think they can even come close to the feeling one gets when we have all experienced the C190 chassis/engine/drivetrain.
At least for me personally, I have never tracked my car and dont plan to, I admire the guys that do and from what I gathered with my time here is that for track use you needed to this and that to make it better on the track so I cant comment on that part.
The original GT and everything that came after it just kept getting better. I know everything is going AWD and has been and Electric is the future etc etc.
But I honestly feel that AMG is under pressure from Benz that they have to make the new "GT" on a current platform rather its own.
But, most of their customers will see 893HP and AWD and think they have grabbed the bull by the ***** and thats it. Which for an SL is great for what the SL was intended for.
The AMG GT-S or whatever letter came after the GT was what AMG should be building. The only 2 things I wish my GT-S had was the M156 engine and front cameras.
I will not be in the market for the new AMG or its brother the SL probably never, will hold on to this thing as long as I can.
Whatever it is it will never be an improvement on the C190. I honestly dont think they can even come close to the feeling one gets when we have all experienced the C190 chassis/engine/drivetrain.
At least for me personally, I have never tracked my car and dont plan to, I admire the guys that do and from what I gathered with my time here is that for track use you needed to this and that to make it better on the track so I cant comment on that part.
The original GT and everything that came after it just kept getting better. I know everything is going AWD and has been and Electric is the future etc etc. But I honestly feel that AMG is under pressure from Benz that they have to make the new "GT" on a current platform rather its own.
But, most of their customers will see 893HP and AWD and think they have grabbed the bull by the ***** and thats it. Which for an SL is great for what the SL was intended for.
The AMG GT-S or whatever letter came after the GT was what AMG should be building. The only 2 things I wish my GT-S had was the M156 engine and front cameras.
I will not be in the market for the new AMG or its brother the SL probably never, will hold on to this thing as long as I can.
FWIW, the SL and the new AMG GT are build on their own dedicated, 100% AMG developed MSA platform... No influence from MB other than AMG was tasked to build a convertible that combines attributes of several convertibles that MB was killing off (SL, AMG GT roadster, S-Class cab).
The other lower-end cabs/convertibles are being replaced by the upcoming CLE (C-Class cab, E-Class cab, SLK/SLC). That's not the case with the AMG GT...
2020 GTA; 2022 Audi e-tron GT, 2022 Ford F-150; 1926 Rolls-Royce Springfield 40/50 Playboy roadster
The SL63 weighs 4227-pounds. It's an oinker. Presumably the GT will weigh a hundred pounds less. But that's still a lot of weight for an agile sports car. Electronics can do a lot, but they can't repeal the laws of physics.
The SL63 weighs 4227-pounds. It's an oinker. Presumably the GT will weigh a hundred pounds less. But that's still a lot of weight for an agile sports car. Electronics can do a lot, but they can't repeal the laws of physics.
We'll find out what the scale shows. Likely the end of an era of the only AMG's that were somewhat in the 911 weight class.
Good example is the AMG GT 63s ePerformance clocking in at 5300 lbs.
The SL63 weighs 4227-pounds. It's an oinker. Presumably the GT will weigh a hundred pounds less. But that's still a lot of weight for an agile sports car. Electronics can do a lot, but they can't repeal the laws of physics.
It may be an "oinker" from one point of view but it is faster than either my GTS or my GTC in corner exit speed from a continuing radius sweeper. The racing axiom is the faster the exit speed the faster down the straightaway. That speed is retained and compounded on a race track.
It may be an "oinker" from one point of view but it is faster than either my GTS or my GTC in corner exit speed from a continuing radius sweeper. The racing axiom is the faster the exit speed the faster down the straightaway. That speed is retained and compounded on a race track.
The SL 63 is slower than a GTS on every track that they've both been tested on, except one.
I can't imagine almost anyone basing a decision to buy an SL based on track times or corner exit speed.
SL name aside, it is the replacement for the GT/C/R convertibles, so I'm sure there are at least some people who consider those things when cross shopping. But more importantly, it gives us an idea of what we might expect out of the "GT" version.
SL is a porker at 4227 lbs, it is not a sports car. I have recently ordered a new Ferrari Roma with 612 HP (620 PS) to go along with my GT-S. It is a GT 2+2 car and yet it only weighs 1,472 kg (3,245 lbs) dry. Its curb weight per the manufacturer (without driver) is 1,570 kg (3,461 lbs), but it might be a tad heavier than Ferrari claims, but below 3600 llbs. It is only RWD, but even as a GT, it weighs just like a high power sports car should. If the new AMG GT weighs over 4000 lbs, that is not a sports car, it is a porker.
Is this event available for Private Lounge Members in the US. I got the invitation in email too.
Looks like the dates are released to book but only one date out of the 3 is available for a Saturday and is a weekend I can’t make it. The rest are for a Tuesday and a Thursday.
Is this event available for Private Lounge Members in the US. I got the invitation in email too.
Looks like the dates are released to book but only one date out of the 3 is available for a Saturday and is a weekend I can’t make it. The rest are for a Tuesday and a Thursday.
10.7.2023
11.7.2023
12.7.2023
All AMG Experiences are available to everyone who meets the requirements and they are held in German and English. I've been to several of their events. In this case the only additional restriction is that it's only available to PL members.
The Mercedes-AMG GT Live Sneak Preview is available exclusively to AMG Private Lounge Community members.
You need a German Class B driving licence, a European driving licence, or an international driving licence.
You must be at least 21 years old to take part in the Mercedes-AMG GT Live Sneak Preview.
Probably not all that different than the renders out there.
I would bet a mesh between these two renders.
From what I understand, the rumor is 4matic, no rear transaxle, no dry sump, loses a few other things. Looks like priority is making space for eventual hybridized "C/R/Pro/BS" version or whatever the new naming system will be.
06-08-2023, 05:03 PM
