17GTS

My 17 GT S needs a new lithium starter battery and every local dealers' part department told me that it is out of stock both in the US and Germany. MBUSA told me to go ask the dealers which is unhelpful. Some Google searching shows that this battery has been out of stock for months now, and it seems like most AMG and even the S class (which I have) share the same battery part number, 000-982-69-25. Does anybody know if MB plans to ever restock this battery or get a new supplier and update the part number? It seems rather ridiculous that a consumable item used by so many models remains out of stock for over a season.

MBNRG

There are reports from others that a Fire profoundly damaged the Mercedes battery factory, hence this unprecedented lack of supply.
But this was allegedly months ago.

Would query AMG directly on the AMG Private Lounge - oftentimes they may be able to provide a more accurate lead time for new batteries.

Some have had great success with installing an AGM (Non Li-Ion) battery, and having the Dealership (or knowledgeable Master Technician with access to Mercedes software) code out the various modules' request for the Li-Ion Battery.

Please let us know what you hear.
Good luck!

MBNRG

Also, are we sure the old Li-Ion Battery is Dead dead?

These batteries have a protective circuit that can initiate a 'deep sleep' - some have connected battery to an appropriate Li-Ion trickle charger, and after several days (7-10+), battery was back in business.

17GTS

My mechanic has apparently tried everything to no avail.

57 GTR

LOL Bidums Fault...

superswiss

FWIW, that fire was over a year ago in March of last year and it was the US battery plant in Bibb county, which is only one of something like 12 MB battery plants across the globe. Also the fire wasn't in the factory itself, but another building nearby, and that plant builds the lithium batteries for the EQ SUVs that are built down the street in the Tuscaloosa factory. The different battery plants primarily supply local production, so the lithium 12V battery for the GT, which was produced in Sindelfingen, Germany wouldn't come from this plant, nor do I think MB actually manufacturers the 12V lithium batteries themselves. There is a shortage of lithium, though. The productions of these large EV batteries are gobbling up most of today's supply, and with the push to transition to electrification, the 12V lithium battery market is probably getting the short end of the stick.

AMG 17GT

Just completely unacceptable that a manufacturer cannot produce a battery that is specific and coded to the car. Crazy.

especially since it has been noted that all sorts of gremlins appear when the voltage goes down.

JSwan724

FWIW: Many of the other exotics are going with the ODYSSEY batteriy line.

57 GTR

I bet that will make other owners feel better when their battery ****s the bed, lol

MalibuScott

A former associate of my lawfirm inherited her family's land with its enormous lithium holdings near the Salton Sea in the California Sonoran Desert. She's the Princess of Lithium but nobody wants to buy from her. Not sure why.

Bottom line is there is no shortage of lithium. Something else must be going on. But the good news if your battery fails during the warranty period and Mercedes cannot supply you a new battery within 31 days, you get a new car under the California Lemon Law!

57 GTR

The people of California should lemon Law the state...

17GTS

I wonder if it has to do with difficulties in getting mining permits in CA or maybe it sits on tribal land. Plenty of proven resources remain untapped for those reasons.

57 GTR

ANYONE that lives in California that can afford to move out and doesn't is retarded..

sevenhead

I thought you were banned?!

57 GTR

There you go thinking again....

user33

For the second time while testing (you'd think I'd learn), I left my RaceCapture unit connected to the OBD port for over a day. I knew it was connected but, this time (as opposed to last time), I had the battery-tender connected so was under the illusion that it'd be OK ... thinking the RaceCapture unit draws very little power. Of course, I was being stupid because it's constantly requesting data values and that clearly keeps some computers awake (e.g., likely the ECU and some gateways, at a minimum). So, when I went to start the car to go to the track ... it was "dead" (as in battery was in "I'm protecting myself mode").

To recover the battery, here's what has worked for me (twice!):
- I have a NOCO genius 10 charger and it has both a "repair" and a (power-)"supply" mode ... the "repair" mode does not (quickly) help
- connect the charger and press/hold the button as required to enable the "supply" mode ... where it acts as a "dumb" power supply (well, except for over-current/temp protection)
- (for me) within a few minutes the car comes alive ... at this point, start the car and charge the battery by driving the car -- (for me) changing back to the charge mode caused the battery to go back into it's "dead" mode and I had to hit it with the "supply" mode, again

I assume that any type of 12.5-14 VDC "power supply" would work, including boosting from another vehicle, but could be wrong. In any event, I'd be very careful to limit the amount of time that a non-intelligent power source was attached (especially if not current-limited) because over-rate charging will likely overheat the cells and could result in a battery fire (which is very violent with Li batteries).

My GTR was built in late 2019, so the battery isn't very old and I pretty much keep the car on the battery-minder (the one that came with the car) for the (typically) multiple days between its outings. An older battery may not behave the same way ... but it's worth a try.