I Neeeeeeeeeeed Help!!!!!!!!!!
12-30-2002, 11:35 PM
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I Neeeeeeeeeeed Help!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by JustinTRW
(Tortuga posted these wonderful car washing instructions over at the C32Life message board, and I thought they were pretty darn good for any newbies arriving here. I hope he does not mind me posting them. It does not cover every little nuance you could possibly ever want to know, but it stands as a great place to start. I wish I had these when I began. It starts with describing how to remove tar that a gentleman had on his vehicle...my comments are in italics.)
I recommend 3M's General purpose adhesive cleaner. It will help you safely remove the tar. Scrubbing tar spots is NOT recommended. You'll end up removing some tar and putting it on your wash mit. Then this tar will be rubbed back and forth over your paint causing an even bigger problem.
I highly recommend washing your car yourself. Here are some tips:
Wash the wheels, tires, and wheel wells first. You'll probably need two 100% cotton chenille wash mits to accomplish this. Do the wheels first so that when you rise them off, you're not splatering dirty water all over clean body panels. Do NOT use these wash mits on the rest of the car! I do not recommend any "spray on" wheel cleaners. (If you can wash your vehicle enough, you can render spray on cleaners useless because the less harsh car wash solution will do the trick.)
Buy some Pinnacle microfiber wash mits from AutoGeek. You can do the car with one, but I recommend using three (one for the top surfaces, one for the front and one side, and one for the rear and the other side). I actually own several because I often wash both cars and I don't re-use the mits until I wash them in the washing machine. These mits will minimize the amount of dirt that is swept across the surface of the paint, creating scratches. The web site to buy them from is:
http://www.autogeek.net/pinmicmit.html
Use a good quality car wash that does not strip wax. (Car wash will strip wax if you use enough, even if it is of the highest quality. Make sure to dillute it properly with water.)
Use three buckets. Fill the first with plain water to rinse off the dirty mit. Fill the next one with soapy water to wash the dirty mit. Fill the third with soapy water to prime the mit for the next usage.
Wash your car in the shade.
When you wash, use motions from the front to the back (and vice versa). Do not use circular or side to side motions. Do not wipe the same surface over again. This only drags the dirt picked up by the mit over the surface again.
After you clean half a panel, turn the mit over and clean the other half. After each panel, go through the three buckets to completely clean and re-prime the mit. Rinse immediately after each panel so the soap does not dry on your car.
If any spots are left over after you wipe them (such as a dead bug), leave them there. After you dry the car, clean these spots separately with some quick detailer and a microfiber cloth. (This perhaps I don't agree with. To me, the washing environment is more safe because you are using lots of soap suds and water. There is less chance of scratching, especially if you use some water pressure.)
Wash the lowest surfaces on the car last (such as below the facia, under the bumper, and under the side skirts). These are usually filty and fill the mit with dirt that could scratch more visible places on your car. (A lot of people use a completely different mitt because of the dirt)
Use the "perfect drying technique" described on the Autopia website.
http://www.autopia.org/forums/showth...&threadid=5120
Some use a high-powered leaf blower to move most of the water off the car. This works well, but you need to be careful not to over use it and create water spots. A California water blade can also be used to help you safely remove most of the left over water. (debated, so use at your own risk, good for windows)
Use waffle-weave microfiber towels to dry the remaining water off the car. JT International (888-989-4584) sells great microfiber towels and they're really inexpensive. Blot, do not wipe, the remaining beads of water off the car. Blotting is more effective and helps insure that any dust that has settled on the car isn't wiped across the surface. An air compressor will help you blow out any remaining water in hard to reach areas (such as side mirrors, trim, license plates, door jams, behind chrome lettering, etc.)
I want to reiterate the imporance of using microfiber towels, wash mits, and applicators. I won't let anything else touch my car.
Also, waxing your car frequently will help prevent dirt sticking to your car and ease the removal of rinse water. (Some waxes actually attract dirt, more so than others, but it does make it easier to remove)
There is so much to discuss concerning simply washing your vehicle, so if newbies have any questions, please go ahead and post them here after conducting a search. Go get 'em.
(Tortuga posted these wonderful car washing instructions over at the C32Life message board, and I thought they were pretty darn good for any newbies arriving here. I hope he does not mind me posting them. It does not cover every little nuance you could possibly ever want to know, but it stands as a great place to start. I wish I had these when I began. It starts with describing how to remove tar that a gentleman had on his vehicle...my comments are in italics.)
I recommend 3M's General purpose adhesive cleaner. It will help you safely remove the tar. Scrubbing tar spots is NOT recommended. You'll end up removing some tar and putting it on your wash mit. Then this tar will be rubbed back and forth over your paint causing an even bigger problem.
I highly recommend washing your car yourself. Here are some tips:
Wash the wheels, tires, and wheel wells first. You'll probably need two 100% cotton chenille wash mits to accomplish this. Do the wheels first so that when you rise them off, you're not splatering dirty water all over clean body panels. Do NOT use these wash mits on the rest of the car! I do not recommend any "spray on" wheel cleaners. (If you can wash your vehicle enough, you can render spray on cleaners useless because the less harsh car wash solution will do the trick.)
Buy some Pinnacle microfiber wash mits from AutoGeek. You can do the car with one, but I recommend using three (one for the top surfaces, one for the front and one side, and one for the rear and the other side). I actually own several because I often wash both cars and I don't re-use the mits until I wash them in the washing machine. These mits will minimize the amount of dirt that is swept across the surface of the paint, creating scratches. The web site to buy them from is:
http://www.autogeek.net/pinmicmit.html
Use a good quality car wash that does not strip wax. (Car wash will strip wax if you use enough, even if it is of the highest quality. Make sure to dillute it properly with water.)
Use three buckets. Fill the first with plain water to rinse off the dirty mit. Fill the next one with soapy water to wash the dirty mit. Fill the third with soapy water to prime the mit for the next usage.
Wash your car in the shade.
When you wash, use motions from the front to the back (and vice versa). Do not use circular or side to side motions. Do not wipe the same surface over again. This only drags the dirt picked up by the mit over the surface again.
After you clean half a panel, turn the mit over and clean the other half. After each panel, go through the three buckets to completely clean and re-prime the mit. Rinse immediately after each panel so the soap does not dry on your car.
If any spots are left over after you wipe them (such as a dead bug), leave them there. After you dry the car, clean these spots separately with some quick detailer and a microfiber cloth. (This perhaps I don't agree with. To me, the washing environment is more safe because you are using lots of soap suds and water. There is less chance of scratching, especially if you use some water pressure.)
Wash the lowest surfaces on the car last (such as below the facia, under the bumper, and under the side skirts). These are usually filty and fill the mit with dirt that could scratch more visible places on your car. (A lot of people use a completely different mitt because of the dirt)
Use the "perfect drying technique" described on the Autopia website.
http://www.autopia.org/forums/showth...&threadid=5120
Some use a high-powered leaf blower to move most of the water off the car. This works well, but you need to be careful not to over use it and create water spots. A California water blade can also be used to help you safely remove most of the left over water. (debated, so use at your own risk, good for windows)
Use waffle-weave microfiber towels to dry the remaining water off the car. JT International (888-989-4584) sells great microfiber towels and they're really inexpensive. Blot, do not wipe, the remaining beads of water off the car. Blotting is more effective and helps insure that any dust that has settled on the car isn't wiped across the surface. An air compressor will help you blow out any remaining water in hard to reach areas (such as side mirrors, trim, license plates, door jams, behind chrome lettering, etc.)
I want to reiterate the imporance of using microfiber towels, wash mits, and applicators. I won't let anything else touch my car.
Also, waxing your car frequently will help prevent dirt sticking to your car and ease the removal of rinse water. (Some waxes actually attract dirt, more so than others, but it does make it easier to remove)
There is so much to discuss concerning simply washing your vehicle, so if newbies have any questions, please go ahead and post them here after conducting a search. Go get 'em.
With the 3 bucket, one bucket with normal water, second with soapy water, and third for prep. Before i get to this step, im already using a mitt to apply the car wash correct? After i finish with that panel, i put it in the water, then wash it in the second bucket, and leave it in the third. Now do i go and get a new mitt for another panel while the first mitt is still sitting in the third bucket? I am soooo confused, please help! Thanks!
-Vik
PS Ali, i know you explained this to me one day, but im completely lost.
12-30-2002, 11:44 PM
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Re: I Neeeeeeeeeeed Help!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Viktorious
Okay i have a black CLK430 that i baby like crazy, i used to have a black C320 that had tons of swirl marks that it was embarrasing, now i dont want to spend money on getting my car washed at a car wash, afterall it did cause the swirl marks, now im confused.
With the 3 bucket, one bucket with normal water, second with soapy water, and third for prep. Before i get to this step, im already using a mitt to apply the car wash correct? After i finish with that panel, i put it in the water, then wash it in the second bucket, and leave it in the third. Now do i go and get a new mitt for another panel while the first mitt is still sitting in the third bucket? I am soooo confused, please help! Thanks!
-Vik
PS Ali, i know you explained this to me one day, but im completely lost.
Okay i have a black CLK430 that i baby like crazy, i used to have a black C320 that had tons of swirl marks that it was embarrasing, now i dont want to spend money on getting my car washed at a car wash, afterall it did cause the swirl marks, now im confused.
With the 3 bucket, one bucket with normal water, second with soapy water, and third for prep. Before i get to this step, im already using a mitt to apply the car wash correct? After i finish with that panel, i put it in the water, then wash it in the second bucket, and leave it in the third. Now do i go and get a new mitt for another panel while the first mitt is still sitting in the third bucket? I am soooo confused, please help! Thanks!
-Vik
PS Ali, i know you explained this to me one day, but im completely lost.
ok, this is that you do, come on yar, ap indian hai na, u should be smarter than that
ok, first bucket is with soapy water, second with water, and third with water. you get your mitt, wash it in a sink so it is cleaned, then put it into #1. do a panel, and after a panel put it in #2, while it is in there, get your hose, and run the water on the panel, w/o using the tip or whatever its called, so it is just bare water, like a faucet. then after rinsing the panel, get the mitt, kind of work it in the water, than put it into #3. work it in there, then after it is cleaned, put it into #1. do another panel and repeat the process, hope this helps. after half your car is done, dump out #2, and #3. rinse it, and fill it back up with clean water, also, after your done with half of the car, your your hose(faucet style) to kind of wash the mitt, but do that after you do a panel, #2, and #3, after #3 use the hose, i hope this helps
12-31-2002, 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by Viktorious
and this i wont get swirl marks this way???
and this i wont get swirl marks this way???
you will, it depends on your car paint color, but most likely you will, but very little, z-5 will help that
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you will, it depends on your car paint color, but most likely you will, but very little, z-5 will help that
you will, it depends on your car paint color, but most likely you will, but very little, z-5 will help that
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