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Old 02-20-2004, 11:34 AM
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hey all,
ok...i've been trying to figure these spots out for a while and just can't put my finger on it.

there are these "white/grey" spots on the roof of the car. Like little spats of something, but I can't rub it off, can't polish it out, or anything. It's like the paint changed colors or something. Anyone have any idea what this is or why this would happen?

I'll try and post a pic later today.
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White spots like; calcium deposits (hard water) – distilled white vinegar /water 1:1 or stronger
Cement/concrete spats – cloth soaked in diesel oil or vinegar and left to soak on surface

Without a photograph to astatine what it is it’s hard to be specific, as too what will remove it. I hope it works out for you, I know how it feels ‘just knowing they’re there.

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Originally posted by TOGWT
~One mans opinion / observation~

White spots like; calcium deposits (hard water) – distilled white vinegar /water 1:1 or stronger
Cement/concrete spats – cloth soaked in diesel oil or vinegar and left to soak on surface

Without a photograph to astatine what it is it’s hard to be specific, as too what will remove it. I hope it works out for you, I know how it feels ‘just knowing they’re there.

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TOGWT,

Interesting tips, thank you.

Is it possible that it is Industrial fallout on his vehicle? On my fathers silver car there were brown spots the size of a pin head all over the horizontal surfaces. I ended up using an IFO solution to dissolve and remove them. Just a thought.

Gdawg,

Have you tried to clay the spots?
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i have not tried clay bar yet...i have to get some when the weather gets nicer and i can wash the car.

i will post some pics of it later tonight. thanks.
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sorry guys...i recently sold my digi camera...forgot all about it. but i ordered my new one already, so when that gets in, the pics are comin' up
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ok...got my camera today, w00t!

I took some pics, in process of editing them and will post very shortly, thanks guys.
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alright, here they are







Thanks guys...what's your take on wtf is this
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Wow you've got some kind of birds there in Boston
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haha....those aren't from birds, are they? I hope not... :p
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Looks like concrete drops to me. Do you ever park in a concrete garage or carpark where there is seepage from the ceiling? It's the sort of thing that happens at this time of year and the spots are quite difficult to get off. I had this happen to a car left in winter storage under a cotton cover and remember that I spent a long time dealing with the fallout. I suggest following TOGWT's advice. You might end up polishing out what's left.
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Looks like concrete drops to me. Do you ever park in a concrete garage or carpark where there is seepage from the ceiling? It's the sort of thing that happens at this time of year and the spots are quite difficult to get off. I had this happen to a car left in winter storage under a cotton cover and remember that I spent a long time dealing with the fallout. I suggest following TOGWT's advice. You might end up polishing out what's left.
Never really parked in a concrete garage, except for like shopping buildings and my school parking now. I don't think there has been seepage at any of the places I've parked at.

I did use to park outside all the time when we only had a one car garage with 4 cars...inside was reserved for the "S" :p

I will try and clay bar those out...but I don't know how effective it is going to be because the surface is "rougher" than the clearcoat surface and they have been there for a few years now, ugh.
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Bostonian: thank the good Lord that cows can’t fly!

They do appear to be concrete type spots, as suggested – diesel oil, polish and then sealant and/or wax.

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Quote: Wow you've got some kind of birds there in Boston


~One mans opinion / observation~

Bostonian: thank the good Lord that cows can’t fly!

They do appear to be concrete type spots, as suggested – diesel oil, polish and then sealant and/or wax.

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what is "diesel oil"? From your previous post, just soak a towel/rag in white vineger and let it sit on the spots then wash, rinse, etc? How long should I let it sit there on the spots?

Thanks man, much appreciated. if I can get these spots off, i'll be so happy.
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Diesel oil is what you'd put into the tank of your 300D if you had one. Furnace oil would be an acceptable substitute, and you could use either one as the lubricant when you clay. Since the spots have been there for years, they're going to be stubborn. Just persevere .
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Diesel oil is what you'd put into the tank of your 300D if you had one. Furnace oil would be an acceptable substitute, and you could use either one as the lubricant when you clay. Since the spots have been there for years, they're going to be stubborn. Just persevere .
ohh, gotcha. But I don't have either diesel or furnace :p

what is a good substitue of the two? someone mentioned vinegar...i'm assuming like white vinegar will work?
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Look for a gas station that sells diesel...

White vinegar would be fine. You will be using it to do some basic chemistry, with the vinegar, which is a weak acid, trying to dissolve the calcium from the cement deposit. Stronger acids are readily available from your local hardware store but I could not recommend them because they might damage the paint. Anyone else with experience in this area?

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Removing Concrete ‘Spots’: PT II
Calcified water spots on paint and glass, water and concrete spots are pretty much the same chemically - calcium carbonate, with the concrete being cross-linked with water Apply 1:1 ratio water with distilled White Vinegar solution, and using a spray bottle, spray that mixture on the spots and let them "soak." Then rinse with water and repeat as necessary. If the ambient temperature water/vinegar mix does not work, warm (100-120 degrees) 100% distilled White Vinegar, saturate a clean kitchen sponge with pure vinegar and hold the sponge over the concrete spots for a few minutes. The acid in the vinegar will help etch and dissolve the concrete. Rinse the area toughly with water after the vinegar and then reapply wax or sealant to that area.

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Removing Concrete ‘Spots’: PT II
Calcified water spots on paint and glass, water and concrete spots are pretty much the same chemically - calcium carbonate, with the concrete being cross-linked with water Apply 1:1 ratio water with distilled White Vinegar solution, and using a spray bottle, spray that mixture on the spots and let them "soak." Then rinse with water and repeat as necessary. If the ambient temperature water/vinegar mix does not work, warm (100-120 degrees) 100% distilled White Vinegar, saturate a clean kitchen sponge with pure vinegar and hold the sponge over the concrete spots for a few minutes. The acid in the vinegar will help etch and dissolve the concrete. Rinse the area toughly with water after the vinegar and then reapply wax or sealant to that area.

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Thanks man, you've been a great help so far I will try it once the weather cooperates. I'm on vacation this week and we're suppose to get some nice weather. I'll try and let u know how it works out. Just hope it comes out from over the years....
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Looks like a clear coat issue maybe?

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