New diesel models???
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'06 E320 CDI; '00 BMW 530d 5-speed manual
Originally Posted by Bora20
I am sure that the E will be updated with the new V6 320 CDI as well.
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From: FL410
'05 E320 CDI, '08 BMW X5 4.8i, '11 Duramax 2500HD
Originally Posted by mon-004o
I just test drove the new V6 CDI last week, MB let me have it for a weekend and 300km. So I got a pretty good feel for it. Overall, it's a really nice engine, ver smooth, and very quiet.
How about a comparison of how it drives compared to the OM648 (I-6) CDI?
Sound level, exhaust tone, etc..?
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I just drove a G500 today and fell in love with it, except for the fuel economy.
I could use the 320 CDI engine in that, not in the GL, but MB said that it could be used in every model in their brands, so maybe it will happen.
A G320 CDI with some 16" wheels and no running boards would be perfect.
I could use the 320 CDI engine in that, not in the GL, but MB said that it could be used in every model in their brands, so maybe it will happen.
A G320 CDI with some 16" wheels and no running boards would be perfect.
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They'll throw a diesel in the G for you in Germany at AMG Manufaktur.
I read somewhere, or heard from one of my people maybe, that the newly pardoned G will get a diesel powerplant option in the lineup in 2007, I think it was. Not sure if it's going to be the 320CDI...but I don't see off the top of my head why it wouldn't be....
I read somewhere, or heard from one of my people maybe, that the newly pardoned G will get a diesel powerplant option in the lineup in 2007, I think it was. Not sure if it's going to be the 320CDI...but I don't see off the top of my head why it wouldn't be....
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The only thing I know about the V6 CDI as far as power goes is that in the S-Class, the top speed is higher by 2 mph, (148 mph vs 146 mph), and the horsepower peak is 400 rpm lower(@ 3800 rpm vs 4200 rpm), and the torque is better by a few lb/ft. Since the horsepower peak is in a lower range, it suggests that the engine isn't as flexible as the I6. Marginally.
What'll make that thing fly, is the 7G-Tronic and it's closely spaced gears.
And, do we really trust aluminum high compression diesel engines? I'll give my respect to it for now.
What'll make that thing fly, is the 7G-Tronic and it's closely spaced gears.
And, do we really trust aluminum high compression diesel engines? I'll give my respect to it for now.
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'05 E320 CDI, '08 BMW X5 4.8i, '11 Duramax 2500HD
Originally Posted by DslBnz
The only thing I know about the V6 CDI as far as power goes is that in the S-Class, the top speed is higher by 2 mph, (148 mph vs 146 mph), and the horsepower peak is 400 rpm lower(@ 3800 rpm vs 4200 rpm), and the torque is better by a few lb/ft. Since the horsepower peak is in a lower range, it suggests that the engine isn't as flexible as the I6. Marginally.
What'll make that thing fly, is the 7G-Tronic and it's closely spaced gears.
And, do we really trust aluminum high compression diesel engines? I'll give my respect to it for now.
What'll make that thing fly, is the 7G-Tronic and it's closely spaced gears.
And, do we really trust aluminum high compression diesel engines? I'll give my respect to it for now.
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We have a 320CDI with the new V6 in it.
It runs really, really really good.
We had it for a trip to the cabin up north and it avaraged about 6.0l/100km (I think some where around 40mpg) and it only has like 8000 miles on it.
Mostly highway, but the break-in period is just about ended and the consumption should go down even further.
A friend of mine has the BMW 530d and he only gets 9.0l/100km (25mpg) and he has about 80000 miles on it.
I think that the reliability in the new V6 should be at least as good as the I6, but probably much higher. When it comes to durability I think that the I6 could be better since it has the cast iron block, but I think that the engineers had that one figured out as well.
The cab's in Sweden are mostly MB or Volvo, but the MB's are amazing, they have easily 800 000 miles on them.. Actually been in an old cab that at the time being had 2 000 000 miles on it, the meter had gone around once and they replaced the tranny after 1 200 000 miles. Pretty amazing!
It runs really, really really good.
We had it for a trip to the cabin up north and it avaraged about 6.0l/100km (I think some where around 40mpg) and it only has like 8000 miles on it.
Mostly highway, but the break-in period is just about ended and the consumption should go down even further.
A friend of mine has the BMW 530d and he only gets 9.0l/100km (25mpg) and he has about 80000 miles on it.
I think that the reliability in the new V6 should be at least as good as the I6, but probably much higher. When it comes to durability I think that the I6 could be better since it has the cast iron block, but I think that the engineers had that one figured out as well.
The cab's in Sweden are mostly MB or Volvo, but the MB's are amazing, they have easily 800 000 miles on them.. Actually been in an old cab that at the time being had 2 000 000 miles on it, the meter had gone around once and they replaced the tranny after 1 200 000 miles. Pretty amazing!
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From: FL410
'05 E320 CDI, '08 BMW X5 4.8i, '11 Duramax 2500HD
Originally Posted by Henke77
We have a 320CDI with the new V6 in it.
It runs really, really really good.
We had it for a trip to the cabin up north and it avaraged about 6.0l/100km (I think some where around 40mpg) and it only has like 8000 miles on it.
Mostly highway, but the break-in period is just about ended and the consumption should go down even further.
A friend of mine has the BMW 530d and he only gets 9.0l/100km (25mpg) and he has about 80000 miles on it.
I think that the reliability in the new V6 should be at least as good as the I6, but probably much higher. When it comes to durability I think that the I6 could be better since it has the cast iron block, but I think that the engineers had that one figured out as well.
The cab's in Sweden are mostly MB or Volvo, but the MB's are amazing, they have easily 800 000 miles on them.. Actually been in an old cab that at the time being had 2 000 000 miles on it, the meter had gone around once and they replaced the tranny after 1 200 000 miles. Pretty amazing!
It runs really, really really good.
We had it for a trip to the cabin up north and it avaraged about 6.0l/100km (I think some where around 40mpg) and it only has like 8000 miles on it.
Mostly highway, but the break-in period is just about ended and the consumption should go down even further.
A friend of mine has the BMW 530d and he only gets 9.0l/100km (25mpg) and he has about 80000 miles on it.
I think that the reliability in the new V6 should be at least as good as the I6, but probably much higher. When it comes to durability I think that the I6 could be better since it has the cast iron block, but I think that the engineers had that one figured out as well.
The cab's in Sweden are mostly MB or Volvo, but the MB's are amazing, they have easily 800 000 miles on them.. Actually been in an old cab that at the time being had 2 000 000 miles on it, the meter had gone around once and they replaced the tranny after 1 200 000 miles. Pretty amazing!
Thanks for sharing that info Henke... and welcome to the forum, lets hear from you more!
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Originally Posted by Henke77
We have a 320CDI with the new V6 in it.
It runs really, really really good.
We had it for a trip to the cabin up north and it avaraged about 6.0l/100km (I think some where around 40mpg) and it only has like 8000 miles on it.
Mostly highway, but the break-in period is just about ended and the consumption should go down even further.
A friend of mine has the BMW 530d and he only gets 9.0l/100km (25mpg) and he has about 80000 miles on it.
I think that the reliability in the new V6 should be at least as good as the I6, but probably much higher. When it comes to durability I think that the I6 could be better since it has the cast iron block, but I think that the engineers had that one figured out as well.
The cab's in Sweden are mostly MB or Volvo, but the MB's are amazing, they have easily 800 000 miles on them.. Actually been in an old cab that at the time being had 2 000 000 miles on it, the meter had gone around once and they replaced the tranny after 1 200 000 miles. Pretty amazing!
It runs really, really really good.
We had it for a trip to the cabin up north and it avaraged about 6.0l/100km (I think some where around 40mpg) and it only has like 8000 miles on it.
Mostly highway, but the break-in period is just about ended and the consumption should go down even further.
A friend of mine has the BMW 530d and he only gets 9.0l/100km (25mpg) and he has about 80000 miles on it.
I think that the reliability in the new V6 should be at least as good as the I6, but probably much higher. When it comes to durability I think that the I6 could be better since it has the cast iron block, but I think that the engineers had that one figured out as well.
The cab's in Sweden are mostly MB or Volvo, but the MB's are amazing, they have easily 800 000 miles on them.. Actually been in an old cab that at the time being had 2 000 000 miles on it, the meter had gone around once and they replaced the tranny after 1 200 000 miles. Pretty amazing!
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The US market will have diesel motors available in the ML class ( six cylinder) as well as the GL class. The GL class will have the option of a six and eight cylinder diesel. I placed my order for a six cylinder GL 
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CL65 AMG 2008 / G63 AMG 2013
Originally Posted by carpersn
I know they've formally announced the ML320CDI, but what about the arrival of an S diesel, or for that matter the R and GL?
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Un nouveau V8 CDI de 314 ch sur la Classe E
Dans la course à la puissance que se livrent les constructeurs allemands, Mercedes se replace avec un nouveau V8 Diesel biturbo affichant 314 ch et un couple de 730 Nm. Ce nouveau bloc fait de la Classe E 420 CDI une berline franchement impressionnante. Si la vitesse maxi, autolimitée à 250 km/h, n'est franchement pas difficile à atteindre, rendant la performance assez quelconque, la vitesse à laquelle on y parvient en dit long sur le coffre de cette mécanique. Comme pour le V6 CDI, les gains face à la génération précédente de V8 (400 CDI) sont importants. La puissance progresse de plus de 20 %, passant de 260 à 314 ch, alors que le couple gagne 30 %. De plus, ce dernier est disponible très tôt. Dès 1 600 tr/mn, il atteint 580 Nm, 300 tr/mn plus tard il est déjà à 700 Nm et, enfin, les 730 Nm sont disponibles dès 2 200 tr/mn. Une performance globale qui ne se fait toutefois pas au détriment de la consommation et de la pollution, puisque ce V8, disponible en octobre, se montre moins gourmand que le précédent. Cette mécanique sera également disponible sur la prochaine Classe S présentée lors du prochain Salon de Francfort.
V8 bi-turbo 314 hp
torque 730nm
Dans la course à la puissance que se livrent les constructeurs allemands, Mercedes se replace avec un nouveau V8 Diesel biturbo affichant 314 ch et un couple de 730 Nm. Ce nouveau bloc fait de la Classe E 420 CDI une berline franchement impressionnante. Si la vitesse maxi, autolimitée à 250 km/h, n'est franchement pas difficile à atteindre, rendant la performance assez quelconque, la vitesse à laquelle on y parvient en dit long sur le coffre de cette mécanique. Comme pour le V6 CDI, les gains face à la génération précédente de V8 (400 CDI) sont importants. La puissance progresse de plus de 20 %, passant de 260 à 314 ch, alors que le couple gagne 30 %. De plus, ce dernier est disponible très tôt. Dès 1 600 tr/mn, il atteint 580 Nm, 300 tr/mn plus tard il est déjà à 700 Nm et, enfin, les 730 Nm sont disponibles dès 2 200 tr/mn. Une performance globale qui ne se fait toutefois pas au détriment de la consommation et de la pollution, puisque ce V8, disponible en octobre, se montre moins gourmand que le précédent. Cette mécanique sera également disponible sur la prochaine Classe S présentée lors du prochain Salon de Francfort.
V8 bi-turbo 314 hp
torque 730nm
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My cousin in stockholm says Diesel is more expensive right now than gas? is this something new? All the cabs i've been in sweden and europe are all diesels. But of course a merceds in germany is like a ford focus. They sell them with cloth, standard and no ac.
Although i was in rotterdamn in a chevrolet caprice with a giant american flag in the back. The guy found out I was an american and kept showing me easy rider magazines asking if this was america
My cousin in stockholm says Diesel is more expensive right now than gas? is this something new? All the cabs i've been in sweden and europe are all diesels. But of course a merceds in germany is like a ford focus. They sell them with cloth, standard and no ac.
Although i was in rotterdamn in a chevrolet caprice with a giant american flag in the back. The guy found out I was an american and kept showing me easy rider magazines asking if this was america
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