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Old 12-29-2005, 09:41 AM
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2019 Volvo XC90 Magic/Amber, '95 E320 Cabriolet Midnight,'14 GL350 Lunar/Almond was '07 GL320CDI
New diesel models???

I know they've formally announced the ML320CDI, but what about the arrival of an S diesel, or for that matter the R and GL?
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'05 E320 CDI, '08 BMW X5 4.8i, '11 Duramax 2500HD
I heard rumors of a V6 in the R, and a V8 in the S, both diesel of course.

But I'll bet MB is waiting on Low Sulfur fuel to make an announcement,.
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I'm waiting.... I know engines have been developed.....
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If they threw the current CDI in the G-500 (yeah, the boxy one), I'd be all over it in a hearbeat!
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If they threw the current CDI in the G-500 (yeah, the boxy one), I'd be all over it in a hearbeat!
WHY? for the life of me didn't MB drop an iron block torque monster like the I6 CDI into that G, I'll never know! That would have been a great $60-70K SUV/Off Roader!
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My dealer has confirmed that the ML and R will come with the CDI engine as soon as 2007.

I am sure that the E will be updated with the new V6 320 CDI as well.


I am still waiting to hear back about the G320 CDI availabilty to Canada, but I read on another forum that MB USA confirmed it for the USA as a 2007 model.

I wonder if the C will come with the 280 CDI engine too?

So many questions...
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Originally Posted by CE750
WHY? for the life of me didn't MB drop an iron block torque monster like the I6 CDI into that G, I'll never know! That would have been a great $60-70K SUV/Off Roader!
They had a G270 CDI and a G400 CDI in other parts of the world -- just none here in the US, I guess.

I am waiting for the new V8 turbo diesel and may have one put in a new G or GL.....
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Originally Posted by Bora20
My dealer has confirmed that the ML and R will come with the CDI engine as soon as 2007.
For the ML, it's calendar 2006, you may want to look at the MBUSA press release:

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/125328-mbusa-officially-announces-expansion-cdi-offerings-2006-a.html
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Originally Posted by TPAbnz
For the ML, it's calendar 2006, you may want to look at the MBUSA press release:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125328
But I have yet to seen any documentation saying that it will be coming to Canada.
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Let's hope they "see the light" and import them to both NA countries! Sorry for not noting your home country.
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4 new diesel models

I have heard the new OM642 DE30 LA will be introduced in the ML 320 CDI, E 320 CDI, R 320 CDI and GL 320 CDI.
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang
I have heard the new OM642 DE30 LA will be introduced in the ML 320 CDI, E 320 CDI, R 320 CDI and GL 320 CDI.
While I'm sure the Aluminum Diesels will perform nicely, I'm just a bit unsure if the OM642 will have the service lifespan of a the 612/13... I for one, am glad I got one of the last Iron-I-6's..
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang
I have heard the new OM642 DE30 LA will be introduced in the ML 320 CDI, E 320 CDI, R 320 CDI and GL 320 CDI.

Have you heard if Canada will be getting the G320 CDI?

My dealer has told me that we will be getting the other 3.

Hopefully the G doesn't have all teh goodies that the G500 does. I don't want all teh extras. I don't need them. Just want a CDI SUV, but not the ML.
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Originally Posted by CE750
I for one, am glad I got one of the last Iron-I-6's..
Great engine! Didn't the OM648 DE32 LA win the Ward's 10 Best Engines Award a while back?

Saw that mentioned on this page: http://www.whnet.com/4x4/diesel.html
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Originally Posted by Bora20
Have you heard if Canada will be getting the G320 CDI?
Haven't seen any info yet. Hey, the Canadian military bought quite a few G 270 CDIs. Maybe they'll offer them for sale one of these dayz.
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang
Great engine! Didn't the OM648 DE32 LA win the Ward's 10 Best Engines Award a while back?

Saw that mentioned on this page: http://www.whnet.com/4x4/diesel.html
it was the I-6 CDI indeed that won that..
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Latest info from the Detroit auto show, from PR Newswire.

They did it.

The world's cleanest diesel, the E 320 BLUETEC, will appear in the USA in the fall of 06. I assume it will be sold in all 50 states.

Commercial Mercedes trucks in Europe already use the BLUETEC system.

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how about the c-class? we are getting overlooked! i hope they come out with amg cdi again, but this time with some of them hitting US shores.
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C280 CDI should get the gas mileage of a Geo Metro and run like a scalded dog.
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang
Latest info from the Detroit auto show, from PR Newswire.

They did it.

The world's cleanest diesel, the E 320 BLUETEC, will appear in the USA in the fall of 06. I assume it will be sold in all 50 states.

Commercial Mercedes trucks in Europe already use the BLUETEC system.
First to be sold in the E Class...see the Car Connection comments below:


Benz GL-Class: The Cleanest Full-Size SUV?

Dieter Zetsche returned to Detroit's Cobo Hall on Sunday, a changed man since last year's Detroit auto show in which he presided over the Chrysler Group. Now that he's assumed the mantle of CEO of DaimlerChrysler and as head of DC and of the Mercedes Car Group, Zetsche led the Benz press conference through the introduction of a new GL-Class full-size SUV. The GL-Class is the third vehicle to be spawned from the new unibody architecture that also birthed the R-Class and ML-Class crossover and SUV. The GL 500 will be offered with a 5.5-liter, 388-hp V-8, and the GL 450 will sport a 340-hp, 4.6-liter V-8. Permanent all-wheel drive is standard on the GL series, which is built in Tuscaloosa, Ala. , alongside the R- and ML-Class utes.

The seven-passenger SUV is the largest in the family, but Mercedes is going to great lengths to promote the GL as the cleanest, most fuel-efficient vehicle in its class. Benz showed a concept diesel GL 320 CDI that would get an estimated 26 mpg in highway driving. The so-called "Bluetec" diesel in the Vision GL will first be offered in the E-Class in the U.S. this fall. Zetsche says the new engine is the cleanest diesel offered in the world, and will be compliant with emissions laws in all 50 U.S. states even after tighter standards take effect in 2008. After the E-Class, the ML- and R-Class vehicles will also be offered with the Bluetec diesel-as will Jeep's Grand Cherokee and likely the GL-Class as well.-Marty Padgett
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Somebody know off the top of their head what the output numbers are on this motor?

And has anybody heard anything more/the latest on the development and implementation of the V8 turbodiesel?

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Please excuse my ignorance, but what the heck is "BLUETECH"?
The 3.0 liter V6 CDI with a trap?

We had particulate filters before, and they self-destructed over a period of time. They also rob the engine of power, and deliver poorer fuel economy in real world applications. Those diesels are EU4 compliant as opposed to EU3. However this is supposedly resolved with the new 3.0 liter aluminum V6' inception.
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Please excuse my ignorance, but what the heck is "BLUETECH"?
The 3.0 liter V6 CDI with a trap?

We had particulate filters before, and they self-destructed over a period of time. They also rob the engine of power, and deliver poorer fuel economy in real world applications. Those diesels are EU4 compliant as opposed to EU3. However this is supposedly resolved with the new 3.0 liter aluminum V6' inception.
Bluetec is the name of the V6 diesel and was announced at the Detroit show...details I do not have. I am sure the details will emerge on several sites and/or on this and other forums soon.
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NAIAS 2006 Detroit: DaimlerChrysler to Feature Technology for the Cleanest Diesel in the World
BLUETEC – DaimlerChrysler pioneers a group-wide initiative for diesel with potential for all 50 U.S. states
The Mercedes-Benz E 320 BLUETEC will be launched in fall 2006 in the U.S. as first BLUETEC passenger car
Dr. Dieter Zetsche: “We can offer BLUETEC in all our brands for the benefit of our customers.”
Detroit, Michigan, USA / Stuttgart, Germany, January 08, 2006
DaimlerChrysler will begin the New Year with a pioneering group-wide initiative for advanced clean diesel powertrains to be launched at the North American International Auto Show (NAIAS) in Detroit. The technology called BLUETEC will be capable of producing the cleanest diesel vehicles in the world.
The company will present vehicles featuring BLUETEC at the Mercedes-Benz and Chrysler Group stands, highlighting a bright future for diesel-powered automobiles around the world. BLUETEC offers diesel passenger cars the potential to meet the most stringent emissions regulations worldwide and be approved for sale in all 50 U.S. states. This will enable advanced diesel engines to develop their full potential for reducing fuel consumption and help to reduce emissions in the U.S. as well.
“BLUETEC is the new blueprint for the cleanest diesels in the world,” says Dr. Dieter Zetsche, Chairman of DaimlerChrysler and Head of the Mercedes Car Group. “And while BLUETEC was developed by Mercedes-Benz, it won’t be exclusive to Mercedes-Benz. Of course, we’ll share this technology with the Chrysler Group.”
The BLUETEC vehicles that DaimlerChrysler will be showcasing in Detroit – the Mercedes-Benz E 320 BLUETEC, the Vision Mercedes-Benz GL 320 BLUETEC, and the Concept Car Jeep® Grand Cherokee BLUETEC – are capable of being the most fuel-efficient and cleanest diesel passenger vehicles in their segments in the U.S. BLUETEC can only achieve its full effect in passenger cars when it is used with diesel fuel that has a sulfur content of less than 15 ppm. Such fuel will further reduce the emissions of diesel vehicles already on the market in the U.S. This low-sulfur diesel has already been introduced throughout Europe and is expected to become available in the U.S. in the fall of 2006. DaimlerChrysler's first BLUETEC passenger car will be the Mercedes-Benz E 320 BLUETEC, which will be launched in the U.S. next fall.
Mercedes-Benz trucks are already available with BLUETEC diesel technology as standard. Around 9,500 Mercedes-Benz trucks equipped with the innovative exhaust-gas technology were delivered to customers in 2005. This means that more than 98 percent of all truck customers have opted for vehicles that already fulfill the stringent Euro 5 emissions standard.
BLUETEC is a combination of technologies for passenger cars and light trucks to reduce all relevant emission components. The system for passenger cars includes an oxidizing catalytic converter and a diesel particulate filter, as well as innovative systems for reducing nitrogen oxide emissions. Whether a combination of Denox and a BLUETEC catalytic converter, or AdBlue injection with a BLUETEC catalytic converter is used will depend on the individual design concept of the vehicle. Regardless of which technical solution is used, BLUETEC makes diesel vehicles in every class the cleanest diesels in the world. BLUETEC diesel technology for Mercedes-Benz commercial vehicles combines highly efficient engines with an exhaust gas treatment system based on selective catalytic reduction (SCR) technology. With SCR technology, nitrogen oxides are converted into harmless nitrogen and water vapor by adding ammonia as a reducing agent in a catalytic converter.
With BLUETEC, DaimlerChrysler greatly improves the potential of advanced diesel engines within the framework of its “Energy for the Future” initiative, which describes the company’s strategy for ensuring sustainable mobility in the future. An additional element of this initiative is DaimlerChrysler’s ongoing effort to further optimize gasoline engines, as well as the company’s commitment to improving the quality of conventional fuels and promoting the use of synthetic fuels. Further elements of the initiative include the development and introduction of hybrid drive systems and fuel cell technology.
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Does this mean that we will we finally get the E320 CDI 4-Matic in the fall?


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