C220 diesel problem
10-23-2012, 08:15 AM
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1997 C220 diesel wagon
C220 diesel problem
Time to time EPC light comes up and the car losing power, running rough, start it again, good again for a while. At startup almost every time the Epc light comes up, unless I keep the throttle pedal down 'til it starts. After a good start I may can go to 100 miles and back without problem but maybe I have to restart 6 times during a trip to downtown. Epc light always comes up when I slow down, never when I accelerating. Already changed the fuel filter, nothing changed. Throttle positioning sensor? vacuum leak?
Any idea?
Thank you!
Any idea?
Thank you!
10-23-2012, 02:21 PM
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Although your description is helpfull, we need you to get a scan and get the fault code. Once we have the fault code we will be in a better position to offer suggestions. Good Luck!!
10-24-2012, 09:40 AM
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We did try to read the code but our readers can not communicate with the computer. (the car originally from Germany)
Drove it again to work last night, the light coming up at every sudden rpm drop from above 2200 rpm. With careful driving I can avoid the light coming up but the startup still has to happen with full throttle.
Drove it again to work last night, the light coming up at every sudden rpm drop from above 2200 rpm. With careful driving I can avoid the light coming up but the startup still has to happen with full throttle.
10-27-2012, 07:53 AM
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You say I won't be able to read this German market car's code with a Canadian market code reader? Even if the reader reads Mercedes codes on Mercedes which was sold in Canada? If it is true I buy one now!
Could somebody confirm that,please!
And one more question: Any idea how could I check the throttle position sensor?
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Could somebody confirm that,please!
And one more question: Any idea how could I check the throttle position sensor?
Thank you!
10-27-2012, 08:47 AM
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I think that you may be confused, a Canadian market code reader will read the BASIC MB engine codes.
I would not worry about the TPS untill you read all the faults, if any.
If the TPS is faulty you will learn that!! Good Luck
I would not worry about the TPS untill you read all the faults, if any.
If the TPS is faulty you will learn that!! Good Luck
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10-27-2012, 07:17 PM
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On your car do you plug into the under hood 38 pin connector(round) to do the scan or is there a connector(rectangular) that is under the dash on the drivers side??
10-28-2012, 08:00 AM
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No specific reason for asking, except that if the car was originally mfg for europe and then you imported the car to Canada you may be correct in that you will need a scannar that the Europeans use or an indy with a copy of DAS Xentry(MB diagnostic software).
Your car was designed to be diagnosed with the old MB HHT system that is now imbedded into DAS to diagnose the older cars.
Well that's my two loonies worth of advice!
Your car was designed to be diagnosed with the old MB HHT system that is now imbedded into DAS to diagnose the older cars.
Well that's my two loonies worth of advice!
11-02-2012, 03:49 PM
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Works on all 1996 & later OBD2 compliant US, European & Asian vehicles.
30 days money back.USA seller.
See if they have the round connector.http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_saca...edes+connector
11-03-2012, 05:41 AM
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2005 c220 won't start
Hello everyone, i have a problem with my 2005 C220 that wont start. Keys (both) will open door and turn on ignition but it still wont start. The ESP and ENGINE light stay on after that. I've tried most things so i'm looking for suggestions on how to get this sorted.https://mbworld.org/forums/images/sm...smashfreak.gif
Thank you in advance
Gabs
Thank you in advance
Gabs
11-03-2012, 09:25 AM
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For anyone to help they will need you to scan the car and advise on the fault codes.
If you don't know how to do that------use the search button------loads of information on what to buy and use
If you don't know how to do that------use the search button------loads of information on what to buy and use
11-03-2012, 11:07 AM
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11-03-2012, 12:12 PM
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You are correct the check engine lamp is for emissions related faults.
Regarding the ESP that is not emissions, however the ESP module may send a message to the ECU that there there is an issue and you get what I call a notice fault in the ECU which you can erase, but as soon as you start up you will get another message because the originating module has not been cleared(ESP), but to read the ESP you need MB software or equal. forget about and obd scanner useless in this case!! Good Luck
Regarding the ESP that is not emissions, however the ESP module may send a message to the ECU that there there is an issue and you get what I call a notice fault in the ECU which you can erase, but as soon as you start up you will get another message because the originating module has not been cleared(ESP), but to read the ESP you need MB software or equal. forget about and obd scanner useless in this case!! Good Luck
11-15-2012, 08:22 PM
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Just got the codes printed today. I would really appreciate your thoughts.
current and stored: P1227 (53,1,12,27)
stored: P1222, P0105, P1224, P1482, P1335, P1228, P1630, P1685, P1686,
P1689
Tomorrow test drive, let see if the problem still exist as everything was ok on the way home.
Thank you
current and stored: P1227 (53,1,12,27)
stored: P1222, P0105, P1224, P1482, P1335, P1228, P1630, P1685, P1686,
P1689
Tomorrow test drive, let see if the problem still exist as everything was ok on the way home.
Thank you
11-16-2012, 02:38 PM
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Just got the codes printed today. I would really appreciate your thoughts.
current and stored: P1227 (53,1,12,27)
stored: P1222, P0105, P1224, P1482, P1335, P1228, P1630, P1685, P1686,
P1689
Tomorrow test drive, let see if the problem still exist as everything was ok on the way home.
Thank you
current and stored: P1227 (53,1,12,27)
stored: P1222, P0105, P1224, P1482, P1335, P1228, P1630, P1685, P1686,
P1689
Tomorrow test drive, let see if the problem still exist as everything was ok on the way home.
Thank you
Codes List :http://www.scribd.com/doc/44107727/M...OBD-codes-list
P1227 Distributer shaft position sensor Y23/2|2
p1222 B37 (Pedal value sensor) Sensor 1 The signal voltage is too high.
P1224 Fuel metering control
P1482 Glow output stage N14/2
P1335 L5 (Crankshaft position sensor) Plausibility
P1630 Drive authorization signal
11-17-2012, 09:07 AM
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Scribd.coms fault list does not always represent the actual MB fault codes. Many are generic OBD codes.
You either go to WIS or the codes are explained within a DAS Xentry diagnostic session.
The op ain't using DAS Xentry that's for sure,------and you are correct he will be looking(and confusing posters) for weeks to find a distributor shaft on a near recently produced MB.
You either go to WIS or the codes are explained within a DAS Xentry diagnostic session.
The op ain't using DAS Xentry that's for sure,------and you are correct he will be looking(and confusing posters) for weeks to find a distributor shaft on a near recently produced MB.
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11-19-2012, 01:10 PM
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If you are serious and yes it will cost some loonies, but you get the issues resolved or continue on.You have to correctly diagnose the car FIRST!!
The resolution is find a garage that has the MB DAS Xentry diagnostic software. They will be able to print you a copy of the quick test, listing all the current/stored faults and events. You can then TRY to repair yourself or purchase the parts and have someone else repair the car.
The resolution is find a garage that has the MB DAS Xentry diagnostic software. They will be able to print you a copy of the quick test, listing all the current/stored faults and events. You can then TRY to repair yourself or purchase the parts and have someone else repair the car.
11-20-2012, 02:02 PM
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The codes were check by an independent Mercedes mechanic. I don't know what reader he used or what system in the reader but I was told it is a 10K machine. He printed out all the stored and current codes as I posted previously.
Plutoe, could you translate the current code for me please?
Thank you everybody but still waiting for some ideas.
Plutoe, could you translate the current code for me please?
Thank you everybody but still waiting for some ideas.
