My new 2010 E Class coupe is a disappointment
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E550 4MATIC
A little off topic, steelgrey, do you have any pictures of your car? I have really wanted to see one in Steel Grey, but so far I've only seen the usual Black, White, Silver, etc.
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E550 4MATIC
Ha! Ha! No chance of the stress "overcoming me" but thank you two newbies for your ironic input.
No one needs you to tell us of the virtues of this and other MB cars -
that is why really discerning buyers like me keep buying them. Not because
as graphic designers we find them better looking than the S5.
No one needs you to tell us of the virtues of this and other MB cars -
that is why really discerning buyers like me keep buying them. Not because
as graphic designers we find them better looking than the S5.
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2010 E63, Iridium Silver, Black, Dark Ash, Distronic Plus, Night Vision, Premium
Originally Posted by pmb600
Is this really necessary? You don't really know what these people have owned, just because they are new to the site doesn't mean they don't know anything.
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From: Tucson AZ
3000 dollar SLK230
Its not acceptable
First of all sorry your having problems. the dead battery thing is a keyless go issue. I will never buy an MB again with keyless go. My 211 E55 had the same issues.
Your nav issue is understandable I have a friend with A 10 glk (WHICH I HATE). It seems a step backwards from the 05-07 nav systems I had in a my E55 and CLS, the 06 nav displays cross streets at 1/2 mile zoom and it was like .05 miles before streets showed up on the '10 nav. The prespective is a cool thing 05 06s lack, but i still think the 05 06 nav is good because it's like using my iPhone, not fancy, just useful.
Dying batteries are not something to be take lightly and your MB dealer shouldn't take it lightly. It is a defect and it has nothing to do with your driving style, that the most bull**** excuse i have ever heard. Honestly I think the problem is that your in canada. Say what you want about americans, but threatening my dealers employees with bodily harm and showing to the other patrons in the dealership just how unhappy I was got my car fixed the next day.
Some people/establishments don't do well with talking and negotiating.
This was at Don Mackey BMW, with an M3 not MB of Tucson which I have had no problem with.
If you can't be physically threatening, then bring a friend to pose as a lawyer, or bring a real lawyer and introduce him to the GM the sales manager and the Service Advisor. Have him walk around and take down names.
Sorry your having this problem, for the record I will never buy a W212, checking out the 550C on the showroom floor I was unimpressed. These cars are going to drop value worse than 211s ever did. The rubbermaid dashboard dosent say 50,000 dollar car to me.
Your nav issue is understandable I have a friend with A 10 glk (WHICH I HATE). It seems a step backwards from the 05-07 nav systems I had in a my E55 and CLS, the 06 nav displays cross streets at 1/2 mile zoom and it was like .05 miles before streets showed up on the '10 nav. The prespective is a cool thing 05 06s lack, but i still think the 05 06 nav is good because it's like using my iPhone, not fancy, just useful.
Dying batteries are not something to be take lightly and your MB dealer shouldn't take it lightly. It is a defect and it has nothing to do with your driving style, that the most bull**** excuse i have ever heard. Honestly I think the problem is that your in canada. Say what you want about americans, but threatening my dealers employees with bodily harm and showing to the other patrons in the dealership just how unhappy I was got my car fixed the next day.
Some people/establishments don't do well with talking and negotiating.
This was at Don Mackey BMW, with an M3 not MB of Tucson which I have had no problem with.
If you can't be physically threatening, then bring a friend to pose as a lawyer, or bring a real lawyer and introduce him to the GM the sales manager and the Service Advisor. Have him walk around and take down names.
Sorry your having this problem, for the record I will never buy a W212, checking out the 550C on the showroom floor I was unimpressed. These cars are going to drop value worse than 211s ever did. The rubbermaid dashboard dosent say 50,000 dollar car to me.
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From: Toronto
2010 e550 coupe , 2010 ML550
First of all sorry your having problems. the dead battery thing is a keyless go issue. I will never buy an MB again with keyless go. My 211 E55 had the same issues.
Your nav issue is understandable I have a friend with A 10 glk (WHICH I HATE). It seems a step backwards from the 05-07 nav systems I had in a my E55 and CLS, the 06 nav displays cross streets at 1/2 mile zoom and it was like .05 miles before streets showed up on the '10 nav. The prespective is a cool thing 05 06s lack, but i still think the 05 06 nav is good because it's like using my iPhone, not fancy, just useful.
Dying batteries are not something to be take lightly and your MB dealer shouldn't take it lightly. It is a defect and it has nothing to do with your driving style, that the most bull**** excuse i have ever heard. Honestly I think the problem is that your in canada. Say what you want about americans, but threatening my dealers employees with bodily harm and showing to the other patrons in the dealership just how unhappy I was got my car fixed the next day.
Some people/establishments don't do well with talking and negotiating.
This was at Don Mackey BMW, with an M3 not MB of Tucson which I have had no problem with.
If you can't be physically threatening, then bring a friend to pose as a lawyer, or bring a real lawyer and introduce him to the GM the sales manager and the Service Advisor. Have him walk around and take down names.
Sorry your having this problem, for the record I will never buy a W212, checking out the 550C on the showroom floor I was unimpressed. These cars are going to drop value worse than 211s ever did. The rubbermaid dashboard dosent say 50,000 dollar car to me.
Your nav issue is understandable I have a friend with A 10 glk (WHICH I HATE). It seems a step backwards from the 05-07 nav systems I had in a my E55 and CLS, the 06 nav displays cross streets at 1/2 mile zoom and it was like .05 miles before streets showed up on the '10 nav. The prespective is a cool thing 05 06s lack, but i still think the 05 06 nav is good because it's like using my iPhone, not fancy, just useful.
Dying batteries are not something to be take lightly and your MB dealer shouldn't take it lightly. It is a defect and it has nothing to do with your driving style, that the most bull**** excuse i have ever heard. Honestly I think the problem is that your in canada. Say what you want about americans, but threatening my dealers employees with bodily harm and showing to the other patrons in the dealership just how unhappy I was got my car fixed the next day.
Some people/establishments don't do well with talking and negotiating.
This was at Don Mackey BMW, with an M3 not MB of Tucson which I have had no problem with.
If you can't be physically threatening, then bring a friend to pose as a lawyer, or bring a real lawyer and introduce him to the GM the sales manager and the Service Advisor. Have him walk around and take down names.
Sorry your having this problem, for the record I will never buy a W212, checking out the 550C on the showroom floor I was unimpressed. These cars are going to drop value worse than 211s ever did. The rubbermaid dashboard dosent say 50,000 dollar car to me.
its a great car. look i have no issues i know 5 other ppl with same car and no issues. what your experiencing happens. unfortunate its happening to you but u must deal with , DONT sell it. as for the keyless go. i blame the cold weather here. like i mentioned earlier it has a happened to me a few times but it was really cold outside (toronto). other then that the car is mint, everyday is a joy to drive it
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2010 E63, Iridium Silver, Black, Dark Ash, Distronic Plus, Night Vision, Premium
Come on guys, I am not selling the car! For many reasons, not the least of
which, is what highrollerer550 said: as a car, it is real pleasure to drive.
The handling is a superb mix of comfort and sport especially with my 19"wheels
and the great tires I have for this season / climate. Technology in this car is
awesome and when it works it is great. So be advised I appreciate its virtues.
But there is no reason why resolving its developmental problems has to
as painful as pulling teeth without the anesthetic. No reason for the
arrogant and arbitrary approach to these problems. A bit of humility and
respect for the customer would have gone a long way to ease the pains.
And I am referring here to the importer more than the dealer. I don't
understand all the complexities of the dealer reimbursement, but it seems the
dealer is often denied payment for a service unless they find a fault and then
only if there is a part to be replaced. It is a bit like an HMO paying for a
biopsy only if it shows cancer. Dumping an underdeveloped product on the
market and expecting the dealer to spend time and effort dealing with things
they never will get paid for, is a prescription for poor service attitude.
And finally, my thread says that my car is a disappointment, not a compete
failure. Disappointment, because I expected better from MBC.
My story is a lesson to all that you too may develop these problems with the
550 Coupe and by sharing these issues we can help fix them.
I will continue to report in this forum, and soon will provide an update on the many problems I described (some resolved).
which, is what highrollerer550 said: as a car, it is real pleasure to drive.
The handling is a superb mix of comfort and sport especially with my 19"wheels
and the great tires I have for this season / climate. Technology in this car is
awesome and when it works it is great. So be advised I appreciate its virtues.
But there is no reason why resolving its developmental problems has to
as painful as pulling teeth without the anesthetic. No reason for the
arrogant and arbitrary approach to these problems. A bit of humility and
respect for the customer would have gone a long way to ease the pains.
And I am referring here to the importer more than the dealer. I don't
understand all the complexities of the dealer reimbursement, but it seems the
dealer is often denied payment for a service unless they find a fault and then
only if there is a part to be replaced. It is a bit like an HMO paying for a
biopsy only if it shows cancer. Dumping an underdeveloped product on the
market and expecting the dealer to spend time and effort dealing with things
they never will get paid for, is a prescription for poor service attitude.
And finally, my thread says that my car is a disappointment, not a compete
failure. Disappointment, because I expected better from MBC.
My story is a lesson to all that you too may develop these problems with the
550 Coupe and by sharing these issues we can help fix them.
I will continue to report in this forum, and soon will provide an update on the many problems I described (some resolved).
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Posts: 77
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From: NY Long Island
2010 E 550 Coupe
Come on guys, I am not selling the car! For many reasons, not the least of
which, is what highrollerer550 said: as a car, it is real pleasure to drive.
The handling is a superb mix of comfort and sport especially with my 19"wheels
and the great tires I have for this season / climate. Technology in this car is
awesome and when it works it is great. So be advised I appreciate its virtues.
But there is no reason why resolving its developmental problems has to
as painful as pulling teeth without the anesthetic. No reason for the
arrogant and arbitrary approach to these problems. A bit of humility and
respect for the customer would have gone a long way to ease the pains.
And I am referring here to the importer more than the dealer. I don't
understand all the complexities of the dealer reimbursement, but it seems the
dealer is often denied payment for a service unless they find a fault and then
only if there is a part to be replaced. It is a bit like an HMO paying for a
biopsy only if it shows cancer. Dumping an underdeveloped product on the
market and expecting the dealer to spend time and effort dealing with things
they never will get paid for, is a prescription for poor service attitude.
And finally, my thread says that my car is a disappointment, not a compete
failure. Disappointment, because I expected better from MBC.
My story is a lesson to all that you too may develop these problems with the
550 Coupe and by sharing these issues we can help fix them.
I will continue to report in this forum, and soon will provide an update on the many problems I described (some resolved).
which, is what highrollerer550 said: as a car, it is real pleasure to drive.
The handling is a superb mix of comfort and sport especially with my 19"wheels
and the great tires I have for this season / climate. Technology in this car is
awesome and when it works it is great. So be advised I appreciate its virtues.
But there is no reason why resolving its developmental problems has to
as painful as pulling teeth without the anesthetic. No reason for the
arrogant and arbitrary approach to these problems. A bit of humility and
respect for the customer would have gone a long way to ease the pains.
And I am referring here to the importer more than the dealer. I don't
understand all the complexities of the dealer reimbursement, but it seems the
dealer is often denied payment for a service unless they find a fault and then
only if there is a part to be replaced. It is a bit like an HMO paying for a
biopsy only if it shows cancer. Dumping an underdeveloped product on the
market and expecting the dealer to spend time and effort dealing with things
they never will get paid for, is a prescription for poor service attitude.
And finally, my thread says that my car is a disappointment, not a compete
failure. Disappointment, because I expected better from MBC.
My story is a lesson to all that you too may develop these problems with the
550 Coupe and by sharing these issues we can help fix them.
I will continue to report in this forum, and soon will provide an update on the many problems I described (some resolved).
1) i liked the look and feel of the new E coupe
2) i liked the tech options
3) i feel safe in a MB if i were to get into an accident
my old slk 350 was a horror show, the car had more problems than i can count and it was a 55k car. Now with that being said one would wonder why buy MB again, lol, well supposedly in 2007 they put more focus into quality and cleaned up their act according to other people i spoke to and JD power, so i decided to give MB another shot but if i have the same experiences i had with my slk it will be the last one i buy.
on another note i understand cars today have a lot of electronics and they break or they are buggy and that applies to all manufacturers, my wife has a 2010 lexus that the hazards turned on when you stepped on the brakes, however the dealer has been working dilligently to fix the issue and we never thought that they were turning their back on us.
having someone post their experiences wether good or bad only benefits the community as a whole and just because one person has a good experience or a bad experience doesnt mean the next person will have the same.
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From: NY Long Island
2010 E 550 Coupe
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From: Atlanta
CLE53AMG
hey everyone, at least we can agree on one thing. it's fast. see my video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goQ2jw0Oo3s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goQ2jw0Oo3s
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Posts: 77
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From: NY Long Island
2010 E 550 Coupe
hey everyone, at least we can agree on one thing. it's fast. see my video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goQ2jw0Oo3s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goQ2jw0Oo3s
nice! I like the low rumble sound the car makes when you hit it.
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Posts: 167
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From: Canada
2010 E63, Iridium Silver, Black, Dark Ash, Distronic Plus, Night Vision, Premium
Fsarewell to the E550 Coupe....good riddance
Come on guys, I am not selling the car! For many reasons, not the least of
which, is what highrollerer550 said: as a car, it is real pleasure to drive.
The handling is a superb mix of comfort and sport especially with my 19"wheels
and the great tires I have for this season / climate. Technology in this car is
awesome and when it works it is great. So be advised I appreciate its virtues.
But there is no reason why resolving its developmental problems has to
as painful as pulling teeth without the anesthetic. No reason for the
arrogant and arbitrary approach to these problems. A bit of humility and
respect for the customer would have gone a long way to ease the pains.
And I am referring here to the importer more than the dealer. I don't
understand all the complexities of the dealer reimbursement, but it seems the
dealer is often denied payment for a service unless they find a fault and then
only if there is a part to be replaced. It is a bit like an HMO paying for a
biopsy only if it shows cancer. Dumping an underdeveloped product on the
market and expecting the dealer to spend time and effort dealing with things
they never will get paid for, is a prescription for poor service attitude.
And finally, my thread says that my car is a disappointment, not a compete
failure. Disappointment, because I expected better from MBC.
My story is a lesson to all that you too may develop these problems with the
550 Coupe and by sharing these issues we can help fix them.
I will continue to report in this forum, and soon will provide an update on the many problems I described (some resolved).
which, is what highrollerer550 said: as a car, it is real pleasure to drive.
The handling is a superb mix of comfort and sport especially with my 19"wheels
and the great tires I have for this season / climate. Technology in this car is
awesome and when it works it is great. So be advised I appreciate its virtues.
But there is no reason why resolving its developmental problems has to
as painful as pulling teeth without the anesthetic. No reason for the
arrogant and arbitrary approach to these problems. A bit of humility and
respect for the customer would have gone a long way to ease the pains.
And I am referring here to the importer more than the dealer. I don't
understand all the complexities of the dealer reimbursement, but it seems the
dealer is often denied payment for a service unless they find a fault and then
only if there is a part to be replaced. It is a bit like an HMO paying for a
biopsy only if it shows cancer. Dumping an underdeveloped product on the
market and expecting the dealer to spend time and effort dealing with things
they never will get paid for, is a prescription for poor service attitude.
And finally, my thread says that my car is a disappointment, not a compete
failure. Disappointment, because I expected better from MBC.
My story is a lesson to all that you too may develop these problems with the
550 Coupe and by sharing these issues we can help fix them.
I will continue to report in this forum, and soon will provide an update on the many problems I described (some resolved).
in the end I just could not bring myself to chronicle this frustrating journey
again...
Last week MB Canada came up with a "loyalty" programme that amounted to
thousands off the MSRP and a fairly good lease deal. I went to another, nearby
dealer to kick some tires, and walked out with a brand new E63: Silver,
totally loaded and I really like it. Sounds like a monster and feels like wild
animal is hiding under the hood....
So, farewell to the C207 forum - I hope you have better luck than I, but do take sedan for a test drive, you might like it..
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E350 Coupe
Let's get the small stuff out of the way first. For a man with such sophisticated tastes we have some grammer problems. Farewell...Program...and Flavored. I hope you enjoy your new car....remember it was just going to cost too much to get rid of the E550 because of it's hugh depreciation. I will anxiously be awaiting your new thread in the E63 forum...I am soooooooo disappointed in my new E63. Good luck with the new car.
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From: Canada
2010 E63, Iridium Silver, Black, Dark Ash, Distronic Plus, Night Vision, Premium
Let's get the small stuff out of the way first. For a man with such sophisticated tastes we have some grammer problems. Farewell...Program...and Flavored. I hope you enjoy your new car....remember it was just going to cost too much to get rid of the E550 because of it's hugh depreciation. I will anxiously be awaiting your new thread in the E63 forum...I am soooooooo disappointed in my new E63. Good luck with the new car.
tutorial in spelling before we throw stones....such a "hugh" error Mr. Steel Gray is unbecoming of a true MB fan.
But seriously, you flatter me with such thorough knowledge of my posts - thanks!
As for my decision to change it was based on the price - I did not feel I
should be taking a loss after all that I went through. But since the deal was
right, I went for it. Why would this bother you, I am not sure but feel free to
"tell it like it is"!
I find some members on this forum are here just to sing the praises of their
toys, and to show off their after market wheels, seemingly willing to accept
even the most glaring deficiencies in their cars. They get annoyed at
criticism of MB, and so much so that one wonders about their motives....
This, I feel, is not the role of this forum but sadly, it it is becoming that.
P.S. I hope you like the grammar in this post...
