E550 (or 400) Coupe relative ride quality
Not having had the opportunity to ride in any recent model of E Coupe yet, I don't know where they would fall in this ride-quality range. I assume it would not be as harsh as the AMG because of the longer wheelbase. But the stock tires are the same as on the SLK AMG except for the Z rating.
I would actually prefer to order the Coupe with the optional 19" wheels and tires - unless that would tend to make it ride like (or gulp, harsher than) the little AMG.
Any thoughts on the relative rides of E Coupe models would be appreciated.
Not having had the opportunity to ride in any recent model of E Coupe yet, I don't know where they would fall in this ride-quality range. I assume it would not be as harsh as the AMG because of the longer wheelbase. But the stock tires are the same as on the SLK AMG except for the Z rating.
I would actually prefer to order the Coupe with the optional 19" wheels and tires - unless that would tend to make it ride like (or gulp, harsher than) the little AMG.
Any thoughts on the relative rides of E Coupe models would be appreciated.
I notice that the packages for the 2016 E400C require one to pick a "Sport Package" for that model to get a presumably firmer "Sport-tuned suspension". I wonder whether the "Comfort" setting of the adjustable "Dynamic Handling Suspension" - that is standard on the 2016 E550C - effectively allows one to select shock valving that is similar to a E400C without a Sport-tuned suspension? It may not because the E550C weighs 200 lbs. more - probably mostly because of the larger engine - and thus may necessitate a firmer ride than the E400C even in Comfort mode.
it feals like a well controlled heavy cruser.
In sport mode it becomes pretty good at hiding its weight.
It is softer than a C63 that I tried one.
I did hit a deep hole durring spring thaw that broke 2 new winter tires, 1 MAG and caused the suspension to start and make noise. My total bill was $3500.
I now drive around potholes but enjoy the ride anytime the roads get nicer.
it feals like a well controlled heavy cruser.
In sport mode it becomes pretty good at hiding its weight.
It is softer than a C63 that I tried one.
I did hit a deep hole durring spring thaw that broke 2 new winter tires, 1 MAG and caused the suspension to start and make noise. My total bill was $3500.
I now drive around potholes but enjoy the ride anytime the roads get nicer.
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I have been driving for 30 years and I can't remember anything I ever drove (or rode in) that would have been as rough as the E coupe, except perhaps a Porsche 911. Even the Porsche had more comfortable seats. This was my first Mercedes and it was quite a shock to discover that I paid a shltload of money for the privilege of being beaten up on a daily basis. I too ended up desperately trying to avoid bumps, potholes and manhole covers and for the first time in my life driving turned from fun into a burden.
Buying an E Coupe in North America can only be called a basic misunderstanding. This car was obviously designed for smooth German roads and high speed cruising on the autobahn, without any regard for the rest of the world. Unless you have smooth German roads and a couple of autobahns in your neighbourhood you're screwed.
Based just on the fact that you started this thread I cannot imagine that you would be happy with this car.
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I guess comparing the E550 to a 1977 Cadillac 4-Door sedan, might find the E550s seats and ride quite harsh.
But if you have spent your life in sports cars like I have, the E550 Coupe is wonderful.
I guess comparing the E550 to a 1977 Cadillac 4-Door sedan, might find the E550s seats and ride quite harsh.
But if you have spent your life in sports cars like I have, the E550 Coupe is wonderful.
I think we also addressed the "comfort" issue by a few of us, who actually have new or late model E550 coupes, that driving the car with the suspension set to comfort mode delivers quite a good ride on bad roads. I live in the northeast and the roads here look like swiss cheese after every winter. Yet the E550 coupe rides quite well in this environment.
Somehow we veered into a comparison between the completely detached from the road, boat-like ride of a 1977 Caddy sedan, which no one would compare with a sports car like the SLK AMG or a sports coupe like the E550. Apples and oranges to the extreme.
If the goal is a much more forgiving ride than the OP's current SLK AMG, then the E550 coupe will deliver that, while still providing some good performance feel. In my opinion, it would be a good compromise delivering both comfort and performance. If on the other hand, the goal is a completely detached from the road feel of a GLK450 (or dare I say an even more disconnected from the road 1977 Caddy) where you can limber over a road filled with potholes and feel almost nothing, then that means giving up on anything sporty and settling for a SUV.
How we ended up with side discussion involving the E350 coupe, which isn't in the same class ride or performance-wise to an E550 coupe, I'll just leave alone. Personally, I don't consider the E350 that well built (noisy engine, lesser quality suspension feel, kinda blah to drive) and nothing to write home about. The standard seats in the E350 weren't comfortable either. Didn't take long to rule that out as a buy option.
After spending the last 3 weeks in the Arizona mountains, I am returning to Tucson next week where I will hopefully find some representative models at my dealer to make my own comparisons. Good handling is still a priority, and thus a bit firmer suspension is required. I just went a little too firm with my current SLK55 - for everyday use on many of the poorly maintained roads in Tucson - but it sure has been a blast on some of the Southwest's rural roads, and at the Laguna Seca track.
Even though I have enjoyed the capabilities of the 550 engine in my little SLK55, I will at least also look at the somewhat less powerful 2016 E400 Coupe because it is available with 4Matic - which, along with its lighter front-end weight, apparently makes for even better-handling characteristics. I am assuming that one stat on the Mercedes website is erroneous. It states that the 0-60 time for a E400 4Matic Coupe is 6.3 sec., whereas a E400 4Matic Sedan - a substantially larger, heavier vehicle - is 5.6 sec. Unless Mercedes purposely limits the boost of the E400 Coupe's twin turbochargers (which I doubt), I would bet that while not the equal of a 550, it could surely equal or exceed a E400 Sedan's times.
As to the E550, the consensus seems to be that driving it mainly involves trying to avoid road imperfections and replacing broken wheels and tires. If that is your idea of a "comfortable ride", hey go for it.
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We have a basic CRV for NY City duty and for when it snows- that thing loves bumps, potholes, etc...I have the LX version with the cheap steel wheels, but the tires will run you $170 a piece- I already took one out.
I don't drive my E550 coupe any differently than I would drive either a Porsche or a Vette on roads around here. Of the three, the E550, in Economy or Sport modes and Comfort suspension selected, delivers the most comfortable ride. It is almost on par with my Lexus. Which is almost like sitting on a comfortable living room recliner, but of course it lacks the handling and performance characteristics I enjoy. When you buy most performance vehicles, you have to of course realize there will be a degree of road feedback. The degree of feedback, by brand and model, varies, so it's up to the individual to determine what is acceptable for them and choose accordingly.
Of course I endeavor to avoid potholes at high speeds. Since if I hit a bad enough pothole fast enough, I would potentially rip the hell out of a Porsche, Vette, or any other vehicle. Just like you would in a MB E550 as AZURIS did above. The difference is doing that much damage it in a Porsche will likely entail a repair bill of $5K to $7.5K.
One of my friends hit a water-filled pothole in the early spring in his Ferrari 458 Spider. Fortunately, he wasn't going that fast. Blew his left front tire, the wheel cracked and his did a little front end suspension damage on that side. The repair bill came to almost $18K. So yeah, everyone who drives performance vehicles are concerned with avoiding potholes whenever possible. Like I said before, if you want to just lumber down the road, riding over as many potholes as there are, all without feeling much of anything, then buy a big SUV. That's what they're designed for.
I do have one question though. You obviously hate the E350 with a passion. That's perfectly OK. If I was driving one on a daily basis, I would be less than thrilled with it for numerous reasons myself. But why are you still driving one after having owned a previous model year of the same vehicle?
We have a basic CRV for NY City duty and for when it snows- that thing loves bumps, potholes, etc...I have the LX version with the cheap steel wheels, but the tires will run you $170 a piece- I already took one out.
I don't drive my E550 coupe any differently than I would drive either a Porsche or a Vette on roads around here. Of the three, the E550, in Economy or Sport modes and Comfort suspension selected, delivers the most comfortable ride. It is almost on par with my Lexus. Which is almost like sitting on a comfortable living room recliner, but of course it lacks the handling and performance characteristics I enjoy. When you buy most performance vehicles, you have to of course realize there will be a degree of road feedback. The degree of feedback, by brand and model, varies, so it's up to the individual to determine what is acceptable for them and choose accordingly.
Of course I endeavor to avoid potholes at high speeds. Since if I hit a bad enough pothole fast enough, I would potentially rip the hell out of a Porsche, Vette, or any other vehicle. Just like you would in a MB E550 as AZURIS did above. The difference is doing that much damage it in a Porsche will likely entail a repair bill of $5K to $7.5K.
One of my friends hit a water-filled pothole in the early spring in his Ferrari 458 Spider. Fortunately, he wasn't going that fast. Blew his left front tire, the wheel cracked and his did a little front end suspension damage on that side. The repair bill came to almost $18K. So yeah, everyone who drives performance vehicles are concerned with avoiding potholes whenever possible. Like I said before, if you want to just lumber down the road, riding over as many potholes as there are, all without feeling much of anything, then buy a big SUV. That's what they're designed for.
I do have one question though. You obviously hate the E350 with a passion. That's perfectly OK. If I was driving one on a daily basis, I would be less than thrilled with it for numerous reasons myself. But why are you still driving one after having owned a previous model year of the same vehicle?
The atrocious ride was just one thing I hated about the coupe, although the most obvious. I may post an overview when I have some time.
By "consensus" I meant the previous posts to this thread each of which recounted some sort of unpleasant experience.
The thing is the E coupe is not a "performance vehicle". It is just a big heavy luxury coupe with an identity crisis and a horrible ride.
I never owned an SUV and never sat in a Cadillac. I am just comparing the E coupe with dozens of normal cars I drove or rode in.
The thing is the E coupe is not a "performance vehicle". It is just a big heavy luxury coupe with an identity crisis and a horrible ride.
I never owned an SUV and never sat in a Cadillac. I am just comparing the E coupe with dozens of normal cars I drove or rode in.
By the way, after nearly 30 cars, have never owned a car that attracts this much attention. And its a steel gray car- so conservative.
The thing is the E coupe is not a "performance vehicle". It is just a big heavy luxury coupe with an identity crisis and a horrible ride.
I never owned an SUV and never sat in a Cadillac. I am just comparing the E coupe with dozens of normal cars I drove or rode in.
Let me see if I understand you. You say your "consensus" is based on the negative E550 comments on this thread? Your comments are the only negative ones on this thread and you do not make a consensus. You only make an opinion. And not a very credible one in that apparently your only experience is with older E350s. Not late model, post 2013 E550 Coupes.
My next issue is with what do you mean by dozens of "normal" cars? What is a normal car? I don't think one of those has been made yet.
When you get an opportunity to extensively drive a 2014-2016 E550 Coupe (and not just ride in one), I would welcome your comments but until then, I would suggest you restrict your comments to topics of which you have some knowledge.
In the meantime, there are several of us commenting on this thread who own E550 Coupes. We'll carry the weight for you commenting on this car. And we will let you do the same when a topic arises pertaining to your year and model, the E350.
Now to answer the original thread, the 2015-2016 E550 Coupe is a wonderful automobile. It is comfortable with accurate handling in Comfort mode. Put it in Sport handling mode, the car is transformed. Handling becomes more precise and you will receive more steering and suspension feedback. It is a sports/touring coupe with low profile tires. It is as I would expect for that kind of car. And then there is the over 400hp and nearly 450ft/lb of torque. As I said, it is a wonderful car.


