E COUPE DURING WINTER NEED ADVICE
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E COUPE DURING WINTER NEED ADVICE
Hey everyone I need your wise sage advice here
After extensive research I’m about 90% positive my next car will be an E Coupe. I’m torn between a few models, those being the 2013-2014 350s and the 550s. I live in northeast Ohio and the winters can be pretty rough here, especially on the roads. I realize that maybe this isn’t the most practice vehicle given the snowy conditions and bad potholes for about 4-5 months out of the year, but the heart wants what the heart wants. I can afford the vehicle itself, but know that if there were ever any serious repairs that needed done it would certainly hurt my wallet. I’m trying to make sure that before I buy a vehicle I know what to expect.
I’m a great winter driver but my car is currently FWD. I would really appreciate any advice on how these cars handle in the winter. 4MATIC vs RWD. 550 vs 350. Also very important is how these cars handle potholes as they are low to the ground with low profile tires. I can dodge potholes pretty well, but sometimes they can be unavoidable. A buddy of mine loves his BMW 535 XDrive M Sport but had to take it in for a bent rim, new tires and suspension issues 3 weeks into owning it because of a bad pothole.
If these issues are common for the E Coupe as well I may have to reconsider my options.
After extensive research I’m about 90% positive my next car will be an E Coupe. I’m torn between a few models, those being the 2013-2014 350s and the 550s. I live in northeast Ohio and the winters can be pretty rough here, especially on the roads. I realize that maybe this isn’t the most practice vehicle given the snowy conditions and bad potholes for about 4-5 months out of the year, but the heart wants what the heart wants. I can afford the vehicle itself, but know that if there were ever any serious repairs that needed done it would certainly hurt my wallet. I’m trying to make sure that before I buy a vehicle I know what to expect.
I’m a great winter driver but my car is currently FWD. I would really appreciate any advice on how these cars handle in the winter. 4MATIC vs RWD. 550 vs 350. Also very important is how these cars handle potholes as they are low to the ground with low profile tires. I can dodge potholes pretty well, but sometimes they can be unavoidable. A buddy of mine loves his BMW 535 XDrive M Sport but had to take it in for a bent rim, new tires and suspension issues 3 weeks into owning it because of a bad pothole.
If these issues are common for the E Coupe as well I may have to reconsider my options.
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Hey everyone I need your wise sage advice here
After extensive research I’m about 90% positive my next car will be an E Coupe. I’m torn between a few models, those being the 2013-2014 350s and the 550s. I live in northeast Ohio and the winters can be pretty rough here, especially on the roads. I realize that maybe this isn’t the most practice vehicle given the snowy conditions and bad potholes for about 4-5 months out of the year, but the heart wants what the heart wants. I can afford the vehicle itself, but know that if there were ever any serious repairs that needed done it would certainly hurt my wallet. I’m trying to make sure that before I buy a vehicle I know what to expect.
I’m a great winter driver but my car is currently FWD. I would really appreciate any advice on how these cars handle in the winter. 4MATIC vs RWD. 550 vs 350. Also very important is how these cars handle potholes as they are low to the ground with low profile tires. I can dodge potholes pretty well, but sometimes they can be unavoidable. A buddy of mine loves his BMW 535 XDrive M Sport but had to take it in for a bent rim, new tires and suspension issues 3 weeks into owning it because of a bad pothole.
If these issues are common for the E Coupe as well I may have to reconsider my options.
After extensive research I’m about 90% positive my next car will be an E Coupe. I’m torn between a few models, those being the 2013-2014 350s and the 550s. I live in northeast Ohio and the winters can be pretty rough here, especially on the roads. I realize that maybe this isn’t the most practice vehicle given the snowy conditions and bad potholes for about 4-5 months out of the year, but the heart wants what the heart wants. I can afford the vehicle itself, but know that if there were ever any serious repairs that needed done it would certainly hurt my wallet. I’m trying to make sure that before I buy a vehicle I know what to expect.
I’m a great winter driver but my car is currently FWD. I would really appreciate any advice on how these cars handle in the winter. 4MATIC vs RWD. 550 vs 350. Also very important is how these cars handle potholes as they are low to the ground with low profile tires. I can dodge potholes pretty well, but sometimes they can be unavoidable. A buddy of mine loves his BMW 535 XDrive M Sport but had to take it in for a bent rim, new tires and suspension issues 3 weeks into owning it because of a bad pothole.
If these issues are common for the E Coupe as well I may have to reconsider my options.
As for 350 versus 550, if you're chief concern is rough winter driving (deeper or packed snow covered roads), the 550 E coupe does not come with 4MATIC, if that is your preference based on winter weather conditions where you live. So your only option in a E coupe would be the 350. Around here, the main roads are usually plowed clean within the day and the side streets within 24 hours, so traction is not an issue. Never been stuck yet or had problems with getting traction or maintaining control. Even with only all weather tires, the E550 coupe handles just fine for winters here. For really bad winter weather, I have other vehicles for those days. Potholes on the other hand in this state are ridiculous and the roads usually aren't fully repaired until June or July. So that is a year round issue in the northeast.
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N.sobevski (09-11-2018)
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I would look at getting a set of winter wheels which are of a smaller diameter (17's) and can have winter tyres with a larger profile fitted to them. This will minimise the amount of force going through the tyre to the rim and ultimately onto the suspension. This advice would be for any car which has low profile summer tyres. You could go with just winter tyres on the 18's, but if it has 19's fitted I wouldn't use them in the winter.
For handling, if you don't have 4Matic, then a couple of bags of sand in the boot over the rear wheels can make a real difference if you find the rears struggling for traction.
For handling, if you don't have 4Matic, then a couple of bags of sand in the boot over the rear wheels can make a real difference if you find the rears struggling for traction.
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N.sobevski (09-11-2018)
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The above poster has said it all. I can only add that we love the 4matic system on my wife’s GLk and it was the reason I sought a 4matic when picking up my C238 E coupe (I had been looking for a C207 4matic).
I have a 4wd Pickup truck and a FWD Ford Focus, the AWD systems are so much better and once you have experienced one in adverse weather like snow, you won’t want to have a car in poor weather without it.
Due to a family emergency we were forced to drive our GLk 4matic from PA through Ohio to St. Louis in a snow storm in January 18. It was later in the evening and the DOT were struggling to keep up with the snowfall. Normally we wouldn’t have risked such a drive, but had few options under the circumstances. The car performed flawlessly and I have no doubt we would of been stuck or stranded without 4matic.
If you lived in FL or other southern state with no chance of snow, the E550 would be great, but I would opt for the E350 4matic. There may be a slight increase in maintenance, but it will be worth it the first time you HAVE to drive in the snow or adverse weather. Also, resale in your area would likely be better with an AWD car if you choose to sell at a later date.
just my $0.02
OJ
I have a 4wd Pickup truck and a FWD Ford Focus, the AWD systems are so much better and once you have experienced one in adverse weather like snow, you won’t want to have a car in poor weather without it.
Due to a family emergency we were forced to drive our GLk 4matic from PA through Ohio to St. Louis in a snow storm in January 18. It was later in the evening and the DOT were struggling to keep up with the snowfall. Normally we wouldn’t have risked such a drive, but had few options under the circumstances. The car performed flawlessly and I have no doubt we would of been stuck or stranded without 4matic.
If you lived in FL or other southern state with no chance of snow, the E550 would be great, but I would opt for the E350 4matic. There may be a slight increase in maintenance, but it will be worth it the first time you HAVE to drive in the snow or adverse weather. Also, resale in your area would likely be better with an AWD car if you choose to sell at a later date.
just my $0.02
OJ
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N.sobevski (09-11-2018)
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In mid August I traded my 2014 BMW 535ix M-Sport of my 2017 E400 Coupe 4Matic. Bent wheels is very common problem with the 19-20" BMW wheels--and most all the M-sports are 19 or 20 inch with run flat tires). I don't think the problem is near as bad with the Mercedes wheels. My E400 sits on 18" and I'm very happy with that-- it also has a spare tire which is one factor in why I left the BMW. This is not my first Mercedes, but nevertheless I have great respect for the 5 Series Bimmer.
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N.sobevski (09-11-2018)
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Winter Driving Recommendations
Hey everyone I need your wise sage advice here
After extensive research I’m about 90% positive my next car will be an E Coupe. I’m torn between a few models, those being the 2013-2014 350s and the 550s. I live in northeast Ohio and the winters can be pretty rough here, especially on the roads. I realize that maybe this isn’t the most practice vehicle given the snowy conditions and bad potholes for about 4-5 months out of the year, but the heart wants what the heart wants. I can afford the vehicle itself, but know that if there were ever any serious repairs that needed done it would certainly hurt my wallet. I’m trying to make sure that before I buy a vehicle I know what to expect.
I’m a great winter driver but my car is currently FWD. I would really appreciate any advice on how these cars handle in the winter. 4MATIC vs RWD. 550 vs 350. Also very important is how these cars handle potholes as they are low to the ground with low profile tires. I can dodge potholes pretty well, but sometimes they can be unavoidable. A buddy of mine loves his BMW 535 XDrive M Sport but had to take it in for a bent rim, new tires and suspension issues 3 weeks into owning it because of a bad pothole.
If these issues are common for the E Coupe as well I may have to reconsider my options.
After extensive research I’m about 90% positive my next car will be an E Coupe. I’m torn between a few models, those being the 2013-2014 350s and the 550s. I live in northeast Ohio and the winters can be pretty rough here, especially on the roads. I realize that maybe this isn’t the most practice vehicle given the snowy conditions and bad potholes for about 4-5 months out of the year, but the heart wants what the heart wants. I can afford the vehicle itself, but know that if there were ever any serious repairs that needed done it would certainly hurt my wallet. I’m trying to make sure that before I buy a vehicle I know what to expect.
I’m a great winter driver but my car is currently FWD. I would really appreciate any advice on how these cars handle in the winter. 4MATIC vs RWD. 550 vs 350. Also very important is how these cars handle potholes as they are low to the ground with low profile tires. I can dodge potholes pretty well, but sometimes they can be unavoidable. A buddy of mine loves his BMW 535 XDrive M Sport but had to take it in for a bent rim, new tires and suspension issues 3 weeks into owning it because of a bad pothole.
If these issues are common for the E Coupe as well I may have to reconsider my options.
Based on 12 years of winter driving experience in Connecticut on snowy winter road with potholes, I have not had wheel or tire problems with this winter tire wheel combination on an Audi A6 Quattro. My preferred snow tires have been either Michelin Alpin PA2 or Blizzak WS70.
This will be my first winter in my 2013 E350 4Matic Coupe. Instead of running dedicated snow tires, I am going to use All-season, Grand Touring Tires that have a high snow rating. I will be installing these Vredestein Quatrac 5 tires from TireRack. I will be changing the staggered wheel/tire set to a more traditional square wheel/tire setup. Since the US does not allow Autobahn speeds and my E350 has 4Matic, there are no real benefits to the staggered wheel/tire set other than appearance.
I will be using 18x8 ET 35 wheels with these tires. Here are the TUV-approved, Italian-made wheels that I will be using. These wheels using the MB wheel bolts and center caps. This setup will allow me to rotate my tires every 6000 miles and have one set of year round tires.
Here is some information from the MB 2013 E350 Coupe Owners manual regarding recommended winter wheel and tire setups.
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2016 E400 Coupe (C207)
I loved my 3-Series coupe, but this was the primary reason why I switched to the E400 coupe: I simply couldn't put up with the noise and harshness of the run-flats on my BMW. I looked at a 2018 MB coupe, but when I opened the trunk I discovered that they had also made the switch to run-flats for the new model year, so I bought a 2016 CPO.
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Firstly, I am in the UK, and not all of the models are available over here, especially with regards to 4WD. I finally settled on a used 2009 E350 CGI (C207 Coupe) with low miles, rear wheel drive, with the last of the naturally aspirated engines (no turbos).
Despite the power (290bhp), it’s hard to spin out the rear wheels in (comfort mode), as the car will take off in second gear only. In sport mode from standstill, it gets a bit more “frisky”, as you get the full range starting from a standstill in first. For this reason, given your weather circumstances, the last thing you’ll need is a bigger engine and turbo charging. The E350 V6 CGI is capable of more speed than you’ll ever use in real road conditions. The only downside to this choice is finding a good low mile on the market, as this version of the naturally aspirated car is discontinued now.
These days it’s all turbo and smaller engines, two things you don’t want in the snow – or the dry for that matter. Whenever the dealer drops off a replacement car while mine is being serviced, it’s invariably a diesel turbo recent model (probably one of their demonstrators), and the turbo lag is absolutely dreadful. You tell it to move, the car consults its systems, and two seconds later it makes a decision. Try that in the snow. With the car I’ve got, you depress the throttle, and the car says “what took you so long”.
Stick with the 18 inch tires, which should give you more pothole protection than the rubber bands that come with the alternative. You are unlikely to notice any difference in the way it handles unless you are really pushing the car to its limits. I’ve had this car for two years now, and yes, they can cost a fair bit to get them “fully sorted out” if you’re buying second hand, though most of the expenditure would still be there even if you bought it from new. At the 30k/10 year mark, expect the compressor bearing to start getting noisy, which if left to its own devices can “grenade” taking out everything near it. Then there’s the oil in the diff, which will also need changing at 30k, and watch out for the sun blind making a “graunching” sound, which can cost up to 800 bucks to replace (they have to remove the rear seats, and the headlining, and then the parts needed include an entire rail system, not just the cloth you can see). Having “invested” in everything my car needed, I can now look forward to the next 50k of trouble free motoring “it sez ‘ere”. The next significant anticipated cost will be the cam chain at 80k, which is perfectly acceptable.
Other than the servicing, which works out at about a grand over two years (US). Personal recommendation is to get rid of the “low rolling resistance” stock tires, and replace them with something all season, like Michelin Cross Climate. Perfectly good in light snow, rain, sunshine etc, and will only increase your petrol consumption by 5%. The stock tires are pretty much useless.
These are complicated “luxury” cars, and has been said above, will take a chunk out of your wallet, but in return, put a smile on your face, and provide pretty much bullet proof performance over its lifetime. Driving a Mercedes can a rewarding experience, but only if you look after it. I have driven this thing in the heat, in the snow, through floods, where pretty much any other car would have simply given up. The car will take you through anything, as long as you take good care of it – to fail the car, is to fail yourself.
Check your wallet – and go shopping ……
Despite the power (290bhp), it’s hard to spin out the rear wheels in (comfort mode), as the car will take off in second gear only. In sport mode from standstill, it gets a bit more “frisky”, as you get the full range starting from a standstill in first. For this reason, given your weather circumstances, the last thing you’ll need is a bigger engine and turbo charging. The E350 V6 CGI is capable of more speed than you’ll ever use in real road conditions. The only downside to this choice is finding a good low mile on the market, as this version of the naturally aspirated car is discontinued now.
These days it’s all turbo and smaller engines, two things you don’t want in the snow – or the dry for that matter. Whenever the dealer drops off a replacement car while mine is being serviced, it’s invariably a diesel turbo recent model (probably one of their demonstrators), and the turbo lag is absolutely dreadful. You tell it to move, the car consults its systems, and two seconds later it makes a decision. Try that in the snow. With the car I’ve got, you depress the throttle, and the car says “what took you so long”.
Stick with the 18 inch tires, which should give you more pothole protection than the rubber bands that come with the alternative. You are unlikely to notice any difference in the way it handles unless you are really pushing the car to its limits. I’ve had this car for two years now, and yes, they can cost a fair bit to get them “fully sorted out” if you’re buying second hand, though most of the expenditure would still be there even if you bought it from new. At the 30k/10 year mark, expect the compressor bearing to start getting noisy, which if left to its own devices can “grenade” taking out everything near it. Then there’s the oil in the diff, which will also need changing at 30k, and watch out for the sun blind making a “graunching” sound, which can cost up to 800 bucks to replace (they have to remove the rear seats, and the headlining, and then the parts needed include an entire rail system, not just the cloth you can see). Having “invested” in everything my car needed, I can now look forward to the next 50k of trouble free motoring “it sez ‘ere”. The next significant anticipated cost will be the cam chain at 80k, which is perfectly acceptable.
Other than the servicing, which works out at about a grand over two years (US). Personal recommendation is to get rid of the “low rolling resistance” stock tires, and replace them with something all season, like Michelin Cross Climate. Perfectly good in light snow, rain, sunshine etc, and will only increase your petrol consumption by 5%. The stock tires are pretty much useless.
These are complicated “luxury” cars, and has been said above, will take a chunk out of your wallet, but in return, put a smile on your face, and provide pretty much bullet proof performance over its lifetime. Driving a Mercedes can a rewarding experience, but only if you look after it. I have driven this thing in the heat, in the snow, through floods, where pretty much any other car would have simply given up. The car will take you through anything, as long as you take good care of it – to fail the car, is to fail yourself.
Check your wallet – and go shopping ……
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My car is on 35 series tyres all around as stock standard.
It us a wake up call just reading about what you have to suffer in winter, in Sydney we just turn up the air to 22 and everything else remains the same.
It us a wake up call just reading about what you have to suffer in winter, in Sydney we just turn up the air to 22 and everything else remains the same.