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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 06:21 AM
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the CLE grille looks unique, at least it's not the C-class grille
Might be but could be the camo playing tricks but we will find out today : )
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by teksurv
My favorite feature of my C238 was the pillar-less design. The C238 was also a true E-class. The previous 207, and this example are not. I'm talking in terms of space. I liked driving a big coupe.
Same! The no b-pillar adds so much to the look.
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ILoveNY
maybe get the convertible? which should be pillarless
Could be an option but I would still want to go with the coupe instead.
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 11:18 AM
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The new CLE : the essentials in brief

Shaped by desire: Mercedes-Benz is continuing its long tradition of sporty, elegant dream cars with a new, independent series. The new CLE Coupé uses the conceptual and technical innovations of the C-Class and E‑Class. With its expressive design, exclusive comfort equipment for maximum individuality and confident, sporty driving performance, the new two-door car goes its own way. The market launch of the CLE Coupé will start in Europe in November. The CLE Cabriolet will follow next year for open-air connoisseurs. With the new dream car series, Mercedes-Benz is fulfilling the wishes of many customers in the C-and E-Class segments.

Iconic design: Long wheelbase, a well-positioned and strongly inclined A-pillar, a short front and a slightly longer rear body overhang, as well as pronounced shoulders and large wheels. There has always been a special magic inherent in these proportions – and they are inextricably linked to the Mercedes-Benz brand. The new CLE Coupé combines these sporty, elegant proportions with the modern design language of Mercedes‑Benz. True to the Mercedes-Benz design philosophy of Sensual Purity, the result is a sculpture full of power and dynamism that embodies an emotional statement from every perspective.

Athletic appearance: The progressively forward-leaning front section (“shark nose”) with a low-slung bonnet, flat LED headlights with a unique design and the newly designed, three-dimensional radiator grille ensure an athletic yet extremely elegant appearance. The strongly contoured power domes on the long hood refer to the powerful engines with up to six cylinders. In the side view, a distinctive shaped edge structures the powerful volume. This character line runs from the headlight to the exterior mirror and from the rear light to the door handle. The muscular rear is characterised by flowing surfaces, smooth transitions and two-part LED lights with new contours and three-dimensional light bodies.

Plenty of space: At 4,850 millimetres long, 1,860 millimetres wide and 1,428 millimetres high, the new two-door is the largest coupé in the mid-size segment. With its dimensional concept – in particular the 25 millimetre longer wheelbase – the CLE Coupé offers significantly more space than the C-Class Coupé. The rear passengers in particular benefit from 10 millimetres more headroom, 19 millimetres more shoulder and elbow room and 72 millimetres more knee room. The trunk volume offers 60 litres more volume and can easily hold three golf bags.

Sporty luxury: Eye-catchers in the interior are the free-standing 12.3-inch, fully digital instrument display, the 11.9-inch, driver-oriented central display in user-friendly portrait format and the dynamic ambient lighting featuring 64 colours. If desired, it can extend from the centre console to beneath the outer air vents. In each of the doors, a strip of light runs along the contours of the armrest and beltline to the rear. Another highlight is the front seats in integral sport design, developed exclusively for the CLE. In conjunction with the optional Burmester® 3D surround sound system, they each have two loudspeakers at the level of the headrests and thus create a particularly individual and immersive music experience with Dolby Atmos and Spatial Audio close to the ears.

Specific EASY-ENTRY function: For the first time at Mercedes-Benz, the front seats are not unlocked using a lever, but instead with an elegant loop made of Nappa leather. It is conveniently located at the upper edge of the backrest.

Latest MBUX generation: The CLE Coupé adopts numerous digital innovations from the new E-Class. With the new electronics architecture and the third generation of the MBUX infotainment system, it is the most intelligent coupé with the star. It offers an exceptionally interactive entertainment experience with third-party apps and a new level of personalisation with automated convenience functions (routines).

Electrified driving experience: The new CLE Coupé sets standards in efficiency thanks to systematic electrification and intelligent downsizing. All engines are mild hybrids with an integrated starter generator and 48-volt electrical system. There is a choice of four-cylinder units and – as the most powerful engine – a 3.0‑litre straight-six petrol engine (Mercedes-Benz CLE 450 4MATIC provisional figures: combined fuel consumption (WLTP): 8.6-7.8 l/100 km; combined CO₂ emissions (WLTP): 196-176 g/km)[1].

Sporty and comfortable driving pleasure: The chassis is lowered by 15 millimetres as standard. The optional DYNAMIC BODY CONTROL, with continuously adjustable damping on the front and rear axles in combination with rear-axle steering, both offered in the Technology package, ensures particularly agile and at the same time comfortable driving pleasure. The steering angle is up to 2.5 degrees. This reduces the turning circle by 50 centimetres. Despite its larger dimensions, the CLE Coupé with rear-wheel drive has a smaller turning circle than the C-Class Coupé (10.7 instead of 11.2 metres).

Extensive safety: Numerous driver assistance systems, some of which have been further developed, offer situation-specific support for more safety. The extensive standard equipment includes ATTENTION ASSIST, Active Brake Assist, Active Lane Keeping Assist, Speed Limit Assist, and the parking package with reversing camera. In Western Europe, Active Distance Assist DISTRONIC is also standard equipment.













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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 05:29 PM
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Interestingly just a bit larger dimensionally than the current E450 Coupe: current length OA - 4844 mm; width - 1857 mm: height - 1434 mm, according to Cars Guide. The new variant:, 4,850 millimetres long, 1,860 millimetres wide and 1,428 millimetres high, the new two-door is the largest coupé in the mid-size segment. Most intriguing.

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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TennesseeZ4
Interestingly just a bit larger dimensionally than the current E450 Coupe: current length OA - 4844 mm; width - 1857 mm: height - 1434 mm, according to Cars Guide. The new variant:, 4,850 millimetres long, 1,860 millimetres wide and 1,428 millimetres high, the new two-door is the largest coupé in the mid-size segment. Most intriguing.
Here's a size comparison:



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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 12:24 AM
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I hate it. No comparison to c238 amg 53. I’ll be keeping mine for a while
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 11:45 AM
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I hate it. No comparison to c238 amg 53. I’ll be keeping mine for a while
Of course it doesn't, these are just the 300 and 450 models. The 53 Model is coming...


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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 01:18 PM
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Looks great in the cabriolet version. With my mark one eyeball, I thought is was barely bigger than the C Class. Surprised at the actual size.
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Old Jul 8, 2023 | 10:41 PM
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Looks great in the cabriolet version. With my mark one eyeball, I thought is was barely bigger than the C Class. Surprised at the actual size.
yep it's 15cm longer than the AMG SL!
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Old Jul 9, 2023 | 09:00 AM
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yep it's 15cm longer than the AMG SL!
Kind of expected, the SL is a Roadster after all. Is the SL wider though?
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Old Jul 9, 2023 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ObsidianE53S
I hate it. No comparison to c238 amg 53. I’ll be keeping mine for a while
Interesting. I find the CLE to be more stylish than the E coupe. I found the E coupe to be somewhat boring in design. Even in AMG trim.l
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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 08:08 PM
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Here's the reason I won't be buying a CLE - the new interiors are not very refined. Here's what my 23 E450 Cabriolet interior looks like vs. what MB is trying to sell as the 'next generation' interior. I've experienced in person driving my dad's EQE SUV - it feels more Toyota than Mercedes. I guess they're trying to save weight, but it all feels lightweight - plasticy and cheap. Definitely not the rich, substantial design of my '23 E450 or even my '20 GLE.

BTW, a 20 something car wash attendant complimented the interior of my convertible today...






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Old Jul 15, 2023 | 10:22 PM
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I thought EQE feels heavy because the battery pack is heavy?
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 09:13 AM
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Here's the reason I won't be buying a CLE - the new interiors are not very refined. Here's what my 23 E450 Cabriolet interior looks like vs. what MB is trying to sell as the 'next generation' interior. I've experienced in person driving my dad's EQE SUV - it feels more Toyota than Mercedes. I guess they're trying to save weight, but it all feels lightweight - plasticy and cheap. Definitely not the rich, substantial design of my '23 E450 or even my '20 GLE.

BTW, a 20 something car wash attendant complimented the interior of my convertible today...




I do agree that Mercedes finishing consists of lightweight and cheaper feeling plastics. Also, a more hollow feel. Pretty much along all product lines now. They need to save all that weight for the batteries
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Old Jul 16, 2023 | 04:41 PM
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Yeah, a couple of weeks ago, I watched a video on YouTube about Mercedes new manufacturing plant in Germany. They were proud of the ability to build electric and internal combustion cars on the same line, which I assume is the reason we're seeing the same lightweight interiors on both types of cars.

Maybe that's necessary for cost control, but a mistake for the brand's perceived quality in the future.

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I do agree that Mercedes finishing consists of lightweight and cheaper feeling plastics. Also, a more hollow feel. Pretty much along all product lines now. They need to save all that weight for the batteries
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Old Jul 18, 2023 | 08:33 AM
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Interesting. I find the CLE to be more stylish than the E coupe. I found the E coupe to be somewhat boring in design. Even in AMG trim.l
I guess that is what MB is aiming for, they did claim C-Class coupe/cabriolet customers wanted more luxury and E-Class coupe/cabriolet customers wanted more sportiness. (At least I assumed they meant the design wise).
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I have to agree on interior design. The interior of my '22 E450 Coupe is beautiful. Rich wood finishes. Leather everywhere. The double wide screen displays look integrated with the dash.

The new interiors look cheap. And look like they were designed by a high school student instead of an artist/sculptor. And the portrait screen looks like it was bolted on as an after thought. (At least in the EQS with the Hyperscreen, it looks like it's all part of the dashboard.) As an aside, I probably won't buy an EQE merely because they are not offering the Hyper screen and instead have this bolted on portrait display.

These interior designs are ok in an A Class, which is low end. But if I'm paying nearly $100 or more for a car, it better be nicer than this.
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