Pennetta

I just ordered a 2023 AMG Cabriolet. My current lease is up next September. MB is doing away with the C/E/S Cabs and Coupes and only offering the new CLE. Dealer didn’t have specifics.
anyone have any details on size and engines?

Mikey53

“Ordered” seems like a strong word. The dealer has allocations for a car no
one has any information on?

TennesseeZ4

Nothing that I have seen as 'finalized', but there are several articles out in the media about the potential of that combo car. Here a few links:
https://www.motor1.com/news/518136/m...rio-rendering/
https://www.motor1.com/news/542723/m...upe-rendering/
https://www.carscoops.com/2021/10/20...riolet-models/
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...vertible-spied

Pennetta

Yes "ordered" has changed definition since the supply chain issues. I have an allocation slot. When information becomes available I would need to pick specific model, trim and options. But from what I am told if I wait until I can order it then delivery would be 10 months from the time I order it and get allocated a slot. Now I'm being told 10 months from now.

MiguelM56

Has there been a confirmed date as to when they will be discontinuing the E-class coupe? I've read some speculation that it may be phased out by 2023. I wonder if the current supply chain issues will push back the CLE's debut as well as the discontinuation date for the E coupe.

I would like to get my hands on an E-class coupe before they're phased out. I'm not a fan of the 4 cylinder-exclusive CLE coupe..

I'm in the Canadian market, if that makes a difference.

W205C43PFL

Speaking of Canada, I've been waiting for an allocation since forever and it doesn't seem like I am able to get an 2022 E Coupe at this point, hopefully getting a 2023 one.

I think the MY23 CLE will be first released in Europe and then it will arrive to North America as a MY24 maybe? Since North America often (but not always) gets a car one model year later. For example, the current gen (W213) E-Sedan first released as MY16 in Europe then arrived in Canada as MY17. Based on a typical 7 year cycle for each generation, I believe the W213 E-Class sedan will get a 2023, in that case I don't see why they will discontinue the current gen C238 E Coupe until the end of the generation alongside the E-Sedan. Although MB might surprise us with their decisions, hopefully not. The W214 next gen E-Class isn't due until end of 2023 at least as a MY24 in Canada. Europe might get it as MY23.

TennesseeZ4

Here is a link to an article in Motor 1 about the upcoming CLE: has a number of camo photos, but you can see the proportions of the vehicle.

https://www.motor1.com/news/555382/m...ble-spy-video/

W205C43PFL

Given how there are still provisional taillights, I am starting to think it might not be announced in late 2022 as a MY23 vehicle in Europe as originally planned back in October, might need to wait till early or mid 2023 as a MY23 vehicle. I hope I am wrong.

I guess it has to do with the chip shortage and that Mercedes wants to save up the chips so it can be used on the EQE and EQS. The coupe and convertible is a low volume seller so it is not MB's priority (I am still glad they didn't just scrap the idea of a coupe and convertible) it is just sad these vehicles ended up with this fate. I especially like the b-pillarless design of the E-coupe. The W214 E-Class sedan looks to be on schedule with production taillights spotted though. Either way, they (the CLE coupe/convertible and W214 sedan) should both be based on the MRA 2 platform.

Also a shame that MB neglected the current gen CLS after the introduction of the GT 4-door. The Panamera existed because of the CLS back in C219 form I think (more likely it was C218 can't remember though), so it is supposed to be an important vehicle for MB, yet they get this treatment in the end.

Pennetta

I liked the AMG C63 Cab better because of the engine but got the AMG E53 Cab because of the larger trunk, rear seat and 4Matic.
I hope the CLE doesn’t lose too much room. I have an allocation for a CLE Cab.

W205C43PFL

It is likely in between the C and E but as all new Mercedes C-Classes and E-Classes are always longer for each generation, it is probably closer to the A238 E than the A205 C.

Mikey53

i still find it hard to believe there is actually an “allocation” for a car that hasn’t been officially announced by MB.

Pennetta

I’m not a dealer so maybe getting it wrong. My dealer called me with 10 mos left on my lease and said if I want a new car end of next year I would have to take an allocation now. When the build info becomes available I would select trim and options creating an order and build. They said my only risk would be if I allocate a Cabriolet and in 10 months want a SUV instead they said it would take a year from the date of the change to get the SUV.

Mikey53

So they put you on a waiting list. That I can believe.

Rebelwon

So the CLE Cab is going to be available in the US, and there is an AMG variant? I read something a while back suggesting it would not be a US offering.

Any details available on the powertrains to be offered?

Pennetta

sorry they said allocation but that was from the sales guy.

Pennetta

From what I’ve heard or read the US is getting the CLE Cab and Coupe. 2023 Cab first in the latter part of ‘22, coupe in ‘23. I have heard of an AMG variant but I also heard turbo’d 4 Cylinder with hybrid similar to E53 but without the 6 Cyl.

Rebelwon

Thanks for the info!

W205C43PFL

Found this on another thread: If all goes well (no more delay), the C236 CLE should be revealed as soon as next month or the month after the latest.

W205C43PFL

A early preview of the CLE in prototype forum uploaded by a youtuber:

W205C43PFL

Engine variants for the MBUSA market leaked by the EPA: https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...73f7803986.png

Mikey53

Looks nice enough on the outside.

W205C43PFL

Design is very predictable, I assume the headlights will be the three dots in the front? The taillights will look something like the C118 CLA facelift? Hopefully I am wrong and it is actually different but from the shape it looks very like it.

ILoveNY

the CLE grille looks unique, at least it's not the C-class grille

teksurv

My favorite feature of my C238 was the pillar-less design. The C238 was also a true E-class. The previous 207, and this example are not. I'm talking in terms of space. I liked driving a big coupe.

ILoveNY

maybe get the convertible? which should be pillarless