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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 12:40 AM
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1994 E500 Renntech

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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 12:44 AM
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to list some of the things i have done,

Renntech first gear start
Renntech speed limiter remo val
some weird Renntech 3400 RPM chip that feels like a turbo kicking in.
Flowmaster exghust
of course K and N air filter (had rammex but they suck)
18" AMG rimbos!
and the auto-lowering suspention when going 30+ mph.
and some more that i cant remember,
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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What auto lowering kit do you have? by the way, beautiful 500E.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 01:46 AM
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if i remeber correctly it came stock on the E500 or it was an option, it lowers it like 1 inch at 30 orso MPH, QUITE nifty at high speed cornering,
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 02:00 AM
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that's sweeeeeeeeet. You're right about what you said in the other forum, on how the 500E isn't really a daily driver.
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 02:01 AM
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Nice 500, did you just get it?
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 03:37 AM
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the auto lowering suspension was similar to the evolution 2 or 3 (the DTM 2.3AMG ) or something like that.....
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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Sweet ride mang...but 500Es never have auto-lowering suspensions !! Niether did any of the W201 Evo cars. They do have auto-levelling though, in the rear only. Some older Benzes had 4 wheel levelling too, but not lowering.

They may squat lower at speed because they are 3850 lbs and the aero-dynamics pushes the car to the road (Thanx Porsche !)

As for the chip....at about 2900 rpms the motors come on plane so to speak....ALL the torque is available, even more with your 6.0 liter. So it does feel like a turbo spooling up. +400 pounds will do that !!
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Sweet, can't wait to see it in person

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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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nice, love it
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Sexy 500! How's the video coming?
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 01:55 AM
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the vids going to have to wate till the weekend, ive been swamped with school!!! my father and i have had the car for about 1.5 years now. and u are right abou the suspention, it does only lower in the back....woops!!lol the intereesting thing about the E500 is that the power is drivin tward the top end. the aceleration is about the same as a normal 500 (5.8-6.1) but the insane thing is abou the Renntech is that once you are going over 70mph it is a rocket. i got it up to 150 in less time it takes my SL500 to get to 120. the car is a SLEEPER!! and about the chip. i dont know the exact name of it, but i will find it out and tell you.

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You most likely have Harmut's own RennTech chip in there...which may be a direct copy of the OE AMG E60 cars chip. I know all the 6.0 liter motor stuff like pistons, etc are OE AMG parts.

And to clarify...the rear suspension DOES NOT lower, it raises the car when you have people or weight in the back. It does this by pumping hydraulic fluid into the hydro shocks...which are more like hydraulic pistons found on buses or heavy equipment.

Even though the M119 block is shared with the SLs...the longer intake runners designed by Porsche gives us that wonderful extra torque you feel, hence faster than your SL over 3000 rpms, definitely faster from 60-150 mph. A stock 500E has close to 360 pds. of torque screw, your 6 liter is probably up around 430 pds.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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BTW maby i forgot to mention that i have not yet done the RENNtech engine convertion yet. i am still saveing up for that. but i have done all the aplicabe ECU mods. so the 6L is on its way.... sorry for the un-clarity i did not meen to deceave any of you.... woops!


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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RedMongoosE
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to list some of the things i have done,

Renntech first gear start
Renntech speed limiter remo val
some weird Renntech 3400 RPM chip that feels like a turbo kicking in.
Flowmaster exghust
of course K and N air filter (had rammex but they suck)
18" AMG rimbos!
and the auto-lowering suspention when going 30+ mph.
and some more that i cant remember,




where did you get the 6L convertion????? lol
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:34 AM
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I inferred it from your signature...its says 1994 E500 RennTECH ; does it not?

I have AMG rims on my 500E but I don't call it an AMG 500E.

No biggy bro ...except the price of the conversion to 6 liters !!!
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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the ECU is all REnntech and also somthing with the Tranny (first gear start) so i figured that sence the engine is not ALL stock, its considerded to be Renntech. but what do i know eh? anyway its fassst. haha

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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Its cool Mark, yous can call your baby whatever you like !!

...I do know RennTECH however, all too well ...your ECU is stock MB, they don't touch that, the chip is inside the ECU but without the big-bore conversion it doesn't make you anymore power...it just moves the power band around a bit. And most definitely does not remove the speed limiter...NO chip does that for the .036 as far as I know. Perhaps the bigger exhaust may give up a few horses. And the addition of a lighter, less restrictive Y-pipe may net even a few more horses...but nothing really that will leave a stock 500E too far behind.

How would I know this? I drag raced a 1992 RennTECH chipped/exhaust 500E (and a PDA chipped car) with my stock 500E...neither car did better than a 14.1xx sec 1/4 mile...which is what the stock cars do all day long. The 93-94' cars have 7 hp less than the 92's which translates into a lil' slower 14.2 1/4 mile in a stock machine....so maybe with your goodies it is as fast as a stock 92' !!

You've got a nice one doooode!...please join us over at 500Ecstasy.com sometime. There are a great bunch of highly knowledgible owners there...probably over 300 worldwide so far.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Can you post some engine pics so I can drool over them. Haha, thanks.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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the top speed limiter is the same chip as the one for the 129 SL500 (94). and renntech makes the chip that takes of the top speed limiter. that is what i have in the E500.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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with the 7hp less on the 94, but isnt there more torqu? i know for the sl500 the torqu went up when the took the hp away..... rite??
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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I don't think so on the 500E...its probably close to the 92's torque, if not the same; which is sure plenty from where I'm standing !! I do not know much about the SLs but its hard to believe that less hp would translate into more torque. Maybe though, anyone else have an opinion on that?

I believe they just de-tuned them 93-94's 500Es slightly for better emissions. Its only about a 2% difference from the 92's 322 hp and 354 torque.

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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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OK I just looked onlione and here are the results for the SL500.

500SL 90-92
HP-322 with 322lbs-ft

500SL/SL500 Dec. 93-1995
HP-315 with 347lbs-ft.

it says that the the 90-92 had the KE-Jettronic injection
93-95 has the LH-jettronic injection.

so maby thats why the numbers are a little diffre,t.
arnt the engins the same for the SL and the E, just the E as larger fuel injectiors right>?
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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Interesting !! I wouldn't have thought what you post.

As far as I know, the blocks are the same between the 500Es and V8 SLs....but the 500E had many more 'upgraded' design features to make it what it is. Don't know whether the injectors are any bigger than the SLs though.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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The one true RENNtech 6.0L conversion I have seen photos of was badged "E600" on the left and 'RENNtech' on the right.

I don't know what your chip is, but there should not be a major kick in the pants at a certain RPM... it should pull hard and smooth all the way through. For some additional power gains, replace your 1994 LH (fuel injection) module with a 1992 LH module. Even with the stock 92 chip, there's 7-8hp to be gained over the '94 with te RENNtech chip. I have both and did back to back dragstrip tests... trust me. The 1992 had WOT enrichment, which was deleted for 1993-94 due to emissions concerns.

My best time, with rear seat removed and near-empty gas tank, was 13.86 @ 101.29mph... and that's at 2700' elevation:
http://www.w124performance.com/image...00MPH_Club.jpg


Oh yeah, go sign up on the 500E.com forum too! All us 500 nuts hang out over there.


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